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Scion of the Ur-Dragon
Legendary Creature — Dragon Avatar
: Search your library for a Dragon permanent card and put it into your graveyard. If you do, Scion of the Ur-Dragon becomes a copy of that card until end of turn. Then shuffle your library.
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Scion of the Ur-Dragon Discussion
1 week ago
This is obviously a much different build than my own, but I would really recommend some way to increase the amounts of +1/+1 counters you place. Such as Winding Constrictor and Hardened Scales, it'll help Ramos go off in one shot more reliably.
I'd say both your Draw and Ramp are slightly on the low sides for my tastes, so I would look for some fatties that can also fill those roles.
I'm also questioning if Scion of the Ur-Dragon is worth running with only two other dragons.
I'll link my take on Ramos for eventual inspiration, it's a dedicated +1/+1 deck so it might not be quite what you're looking for. But feel free to have a look;
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3 weeks ago
I've been rather stuck on deciding a general for a commander deck, the main issue is that I just don't know what colors I'd enjoy the most. I'm also unsure how competitive I would want the deck to be, probably not too strong where I get exiled from all play groups in the country. I'd like to hear some ideas with some explanations for them! The current commanders I'm considering are Marchesa, the Black Rose, Zedruu the Greathearted, Ramos, Dragon Engine and Scion of the Ur-Dragon.
1 month ago
There's a couple cards in here I'm not very sure synergise overly well with your commander and overall theme. I feel most of these are within you artifact list. Conjurer's Closet only works with 4 dragons and doesn't work if you "cheat it" out with Scion of the Ur-Dragon since he is already out on the battlefield. Rings of Brighthearth also doesn't really fit as there is only 5 creature cards, 2 enchantments, and 4 artifacts it synergises with, now of which are overly amazing, the best card it would work with it imo Hellkite Charger. It just seems like a dead drop a lot of the time. Cradle of Vitality also doesn't really fit as theres only 3 cards it would work with. Time Warp is another off card as it is the only instance that you have an extra turn card. As for the dragons themselves theres a couple questionable additions as well. Most notably Archwing Dragon, Prossh, Skyraider of Kher and Draco. I feel theres many other better dragon you could throw in that will have a better lasting effect. Overall you have a very high costing deck and you should consider replacing some other artifacts and some of these other cards for better mana acceleration as this seems like it could be an extremely slow deck especially for a 5 colour deck. Exploration, Burgeoning, Dragon's Hoard, Darksteel Ingot, Manalith and many other mana rocks would probably serve you better than a card like Door of Destinies. Another great add it you could have which synergises well with you commander would be Rise of the Dark Realms as dragon decks like this are very prone to board wipes.
1 month ago
Makes sense. Dragons tend to cost a lot of mana so I can see not wanting other stuff at that part of your curve. Utvara Hellkite is pretty crazy. I had it in my Scion of the Ur-Dragon deck and it was nuts with Temur Ascendancy.
1 month ago
2 months ago
Please forgive me if I'm being stupid, but I don't understand: Why is Progenitus at tier 3 and Karona, False God at tier 5? The way I see it, the best build of each deck is a combo deck that makes use of the commander's color identity and never plans to actually cast the commander. (Maybe there's some way to actually cast Progenitus with Dream Halls or something, but I'm really not seeing it.) In addition, I'm inclined to believe that merely having the 5-color identity probably means that the deck should be of a higher tier than say Visara the Dreadful, if the metric is 'best deck possible with that commander'. If you disqualify Karona's combo build from getting its tier because Scion of the Ur-Dragon does that job better, then I'd like to point out the sample Kefnet deck. It's a nice high tide deck, and Kefnet is legitimately used as a card draw outlet, but Jace VP just does that job better. Where do you draw the line?
2 months ago
I would think that EDHrec's organization would help in endeavor, already breaking things up for you. For commanders like Tetzimoc, Primal Death I would make a miscellaneous archetype for commanders that you can't figure out the interactions for. It is kind of lazy, but it would also help solve the problem with commanders like Scion of the Ur-Dragon and Karona, False God, who don't really have a set placement. Scion can be for dragon tribal, but I think having a miscellaneous combo archetype for 5 color commanders and popular partner commanders, like Tymna the Weaver.