Scion of the Ur-Dragon
Legendary Creature — Dragon Avatar
: Search your library for a Dragon permanent card and put it into your graveyard. If you do, Scion of the Ur-Dragon becomes a copy of that card until end of turn. Then shuffle your library.
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Rare|
|Time Spiral (TSP)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Scion of the Ur-Dragon Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, nice budget version of Ur-Dragon. Good job upgrading the precon by adding the Ventmaw + Assault combo.
Even if you have a higher budget to make upgrades with here's some budget cards (each $2 or less) to consider adding to replace some cards you have here:
- Temur Ascendancy > Monastery Siege
- Sarkhan's Triumph > Wardscale Dragon
- Drakuseth, Maw of Flames > Tyrant's Familiar
- Dragon's Hoard > Dreamstone Hedron
- Beast Within > Rain of Thorns
- Swords to Plowshares > Curse of Verbosity
- Dovin's Veto > Curse of Bounty
- Bala Ged Recovery Flip > Curse of Opulence
- Exotic Orchard > Orator of Ojutai
- Unclaimed Territory > Armillary Sphere
- Cinder Glade, Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh, Canopy Vista > 5 Vivid lands
Understand that for most cards on this site the prices are displayed wrong and you need to do some browsing around TCGPlayer/Card Kingdom to get the best actual prices of cards. Having a creature tutor can be helpful to get Scion of the Ur-Dragon or any other Dragon. Drakuseth is a Dragon upgrade especially with the Ventmaw + Assault combo as a win condition with infinite attacks.
Hoard is a ramp upgrade since if not using it for ramp it can be a repeatable draw source. Wizards put zero instant speed removal in the precon and that's not good in Commander. You want to be able to remove a problematic card from an opponent or counter a spell that's going to wreck you.
The 5 Battle Lands could replace the 5 Vivid lands. There's lots of Tri lands here and these lands will always ETB tapped, but on a budget they're worth it for the color fixing. Vivid lands are not worth ETB tapped because you don't have a way to put more counters on them and when they run out of counters they're terrible. Battle lands have interaction with lots of basic lands and Farseek can search for one of them.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the questions ChaoSpydr!
Here's how the deck is played:
The goal is to cast Scion as early as possible. We're looking to start our hand with 2-4 lands, 2-3 pieces of ramp, and either card draw, interaction of some sort, etc.
Cast Scion of the Ur-Dragon on turn 3 or 4
On the next turn, If I have a combo card, I play it, and active the combo with Scion of the Ur Dragon's ability.
To answer your questions about multiplayer formats: This deck performs very reliably in a 1v1. With the ability to either play a combo, or fallback to using Moltensteel+Skitheryx, it's reasonable to win the game by turn 4 or 5.
For games with more than one person, just having moltensteel+skithiryx isn't enough to win the game. You'll have to draw or tutor cards like Curiosity or Animate Dead to reliably win the game regardless of however many opponents you have.
The reason why I have all 10 talismans is that my primary goal in the deck is the generate WUBRG the fastest I can. I'd argue talismans are some of the most efficient ramp cards in all of magic. They come in untapped, and they are better than signets because you don't have the restriction of needing to generate mana. Plus, they are wonderful at color fixing too! In addition, my average CMC for the deck is 2.08, so having a strong, low-cost, reliable mana base allows me to get more value for casting my spells early.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Scion of the Ur-Dragon. so many neat interactions like transforming into different things when unblocked depending on the situation. surprise Balefire Dragon, nichol bolas, or even Moltensteel Dragon then Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon in the same turn for instant KO. or Teneb, the Harvester to reanimate something.
or i just dump all my mana into the ability during an opponents end step right before my turn, to load up the grave for a Patriarch's Bidding or Primevals' Glorious Rebirth with a haste guy like Dragonlord Kolaghan or Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund. this also triggers a ton of damage off of Scourge of Valkas and Dragon Tempest
3 weeks ago
Hey, for less than $150 you've done well with your version. You clearly know how to build a Commander deck with a low budget.
Cards that are $3 or less each to consider adding:
- Tutors: Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Sarkhan's Triumph, Shared Summons, Crop Rotation
- Draw: Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Ojutai(Mystery Booster version)
- Ramp: Faeburrow Elder
- Lands: Cascading Cataracts, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Unclaimed Territory, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream
Scion of the Ur-Dragon is a very good Dragon as a repeatable Dragon tutor and it combos with Teneb, the Harvester + Bladewing the Risen to reanimate the Dragons you tutor for. Consider cutting some of the least good Dragons for a few creature tutors that can search for the better Dragons?
Temur Ascendancy does a lot for a three drop, haste for all creatures you control and repeatable draw when most Dragons ETB including Dragon tokens with 4 or more power. These land suggestions would add five more lands that can ETB untapped meaning they could replace five lands that always ETB tapped. Cascading Cataracts is helpful with Jodah/Fist letting you for five mana of any colors plus tapping Cataracts to cast any card.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vivid Crag
- Vivid Creek
- Vivid Grove
- Vivid Marsh
- Vivid Meadow
- Make a Stand
- Stroke of Genius
- Distant Melody
- Hedron Archive
- Boneyard Scourge
- Tyrant's Familiar
- Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
Even on a budget the Vivid lands are not good unless you have proliferate to put more counters on them and I don't recommend adding proliferate just for the Vivids.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
So im make an avatar tribal deck was wondering if i should go good old Progenitus or should i go Child of Alara, since Karona, False God is a unfaithful slut that never stands by your side (and is kinda bad unless you build around her) and both Scion of the Ur-Dragon and The Ur-Dragon care only about dragons and Niv-Mizzet Reborn cares about non-mono colors and 90ish% of avatars are mono colored
1 month ago
When you go about upgrading the lands, make sure to add ones that will give you more than enough color flexibility. Sure, you want to cast Scion of the Ur-Dragon easily, but you also want to cast things like Bladewing the Risen, Drakuseth, Maw of Flames, Scourge of Valkas and Dragon Broodmother that will have you needing three of one color in some cases. This means that having shock lands (Without fetches) may not be the best choice.
Good budget options for 5-color lands include: The Vivid cycle (Vivid Crag), Grand Coliseum, City of Brass (You can find cheap ones in foreign languages and sub-optimal conditions.) and even sometimes the more expensive ones like Reflecting Pool, where you can use strategies mentioned above to save money.
Trilands are also good, but it may be a bad draw when you get the colors you don't want, or just don't need a land in hand.
If you have another deck that can always use shock lands, then I think having them in The Ur-Dragon is fine.
1 month ago
Now I need to learn how to alter foil cards so I can have a similarly pretty commander :D