Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind

Artifact

PhyrexianHellkite on 50$ Budget The Ur-Dragon

5 months ago

I have tested creatures/cards like that in the past and don't like the staying power or what they are adding to this deck. The creature versions get board-wiped the fastest and don't tend to extend the deck past extra mana available, so I prefer to start getting bigger game impact dragons out and only ramp via land ramp and some artifacts. Mainly to help with my mana fixing, draw, and one sided board-wipes. See the list of cards that those would not interact with other than Scaled Nurturer, that one gets the dragon pass but not card draw and would take up one of the 30 dragon slots. Garruk's Uprising, Elemental Bond, Frontier Siege, Wrathful Red Dragon, Silumgar, the Drifting Death, Rith, Liberated Primeval, Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Ganax, Astral Hunter, Firkraag, Cunning Instigator, Dromoka, the Eternal, Bladewing the Risen, Atarka, World Render, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Relic of Legends, Jade Orb of Dragonkind, Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind, Crux of Fate, The Ur-Dragon

So 20 cards or 1/5th of the deck that those would not extend or interact with. Here is a link for some statistics for mana reducers that basically says if you can play cards every turn and use all mana you have as well then they work the best in those types of decks.

Is it worth it to play cost reducers in MTG EDH commander? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prltKyeJMKI

Form about this topic https://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/comments/b3stji/cost_reducers_vs_ramp/

Thanks for the comments! Hope this gives some insight on my deck building/playing style and if you run those mana dorks/cost reducers, I think cards like can help and, I do run them in other decks with less colors or better card draw. I do think a commander like Tiamat would benefit from those to help play the tutored cards after cast and help commander tax to recast it and refill your hand. The main thing I consider is what am I swapping, and in this deck and it's mana fixing for a 5 color deck on a 50$ budget, or a potential dragon slot for a deck that wants dragons on the field attacking to start getting ramped up.

I will continue to update this deck and work to give better descriptions of my other decks as well as I build and update my commander arsenal!

Housegheist on Miiryn, Sentinel Wyrm

1 year ago

First of, cool list.

Baldur’s Gate gave a lot of on-theme dragon support… like Korlessa, Scale Singer, Scaled Nurturer, Earthquake Dragon, Draconic Muralists or Renari, Merchant of Marvels.

As a mana-rock, i would recommend Orb of Dragonkind, it ramps your dragons or can be used to dig into your library.

Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind ramps and gives haste and Jade Orb of Dragonkind provides protection… and i like, that they are on flavour :D

I tried a Miirym deck by myself and hope you dokn’t mind, if i link it. Maybe you find some Inspiration.


Miirym or Double the Fun

Commander / EDH* Housegheist

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Edit: i missed you already use the carnelian, mea culpa

Housegheist on Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm: Double Dragon

1 year ago

i might found some gems which could be useful for you. First of, i like the dragonorbs as rocks, as they are on flavour and if used for a dragon, they gain extra some advantage. Only drawback is - except the OG-Orb - they cost 3 cmc.

Lapis Orb of Dragonkind - Card selection

Jade Orb of Dragonkind - Prottection

Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind Haste

Orb of Dragonkind - Draw

Swashbuckler Extraordinaire gains a treasure while entering which could be used for ramp or combat dmg.

Thunderbreak Regent gains some kind of tax for removing your dragons and is a 4/4 for 4, which is kinda nice.

If you're using Blasphemous Act with Wrathful Red Dragon as a potential game ender, could Chain Reaction get you some redundancy here?

Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge is a 5/4 for 3 with kinda defender. but with that many rock and the triggered ability he can definately gain you some advantage. Otherwise he is a flying blocker for 3.

Looking forward to your thoughts

DutchSnake on MTG list of EDH Ramp Cards | last update: 30-05-22

1 year ago

Decanter of Endless Water

Something worth mention too add for Gruul

Domri, Anarch of Bolas

Goblin Anarchomancer

Also, don't know if you'll add cards for certain tribal restricted ramp?

Like, for example Dragons:

Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind

Jade Orb of Dragonkind

Lapis Orb of Dragonkind

Dragon's Hoard

Eldmoi on Return Of The Ur-Dragon: A Budget Dragon Primer

1 year ago

This looks like a great take on a budget Ur-Dragon deck! While I'm new to EDH/Commander, I'm in the midst of putting together a similar commander deck with the Ur-Dragon on this site at least. I definitely appreciate the amount of detail you put in constructing this with input on why certain cards that might fit were excluded, and why getting greedy and throwing down all your dragons each turn might not be the best move.

While talking to someone at an MTG event at PAX East this year, they showed me their Ur-Dragon deck and it included Fist of Suns + Morophon, the Boundless to increase the likelihood of getting dragons out faster. I understand you prefer other ways of mana ramping besides artifacts since they can get destroyed later in the game, but with the best case scenario of playing Fist of Suns on turn 3 and then landing enough mana to get Morophon, the Boundless in play with your other sources of mana ramp you can really start churning out dragons for free with this interaction.

Also, the upcoming Baldur's Gate set has some artifacts which might fit here. Dragonkind Orbs like Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind could benefit the deck if you don't mind adding some more artifacts in the deck, although these orbs could be counter-intuitive if the Fist of Suns combo is active. It could still be a good backup source of mana and adding extra value to casting dragons.

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