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When Junk Diver is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return another target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand.
4 days ago
My favourite option for recursion is Goblin Welder, mostly for the flavour text :) I'm not sure if it's pre-con level though.
2 weeks ago
Hey, you're welcome.
You're right, a high avg. CMC hurting gameplay can be deceiving if you have reanimation. To help reanimation be more of a factor consider adding some cards that can search for and put card(s) of your choice from your library into your graveyard?
Unmarked Grave is two mana to tutor for and put Wurmcoil Engine or Triplicate Titan into your graveyard, Buried Alive can get both of them, that's better than potentially drawing them especially Triplicate. Or get Razorlash Transmogrant to get this guy going. A reason to play Vile Entomber is Biotransference making it a potentially repeatable effect that can get any card. Entomber can get Bolas's Citadel.
- Cast Retriever, trigger Mirrorworks to copy Retriever.
- In response to Mirrorworks trigger sac Retriever with Altar.
- Resolve Retriever die trigger returning any artifact to hand and trigger Imotekh.
- Resolve Mirrorworks trigger, pay floating from Altar, creating a Retriever copy.
- Sac Retriever copy with Altar, returning Retriever to your hand and trigger Imotekh.
- Sac Retriever with Altar, recur an artifact and trigger Imotekh.
- Sac Trawler, recur Retriever and trigger Imotekh.
- Sac a Necron, cast Retriever, sac Retriever, recur Trawler and trigger Imotekh.
- Cast Trawler and repeat.
This combo you need to make it infinite, for Retriever and for Trawler to repeatedly cast them from your hand. By sacing one Necron each iteration of the combo makes an extra , making for infinite Necrons also makes infinite colorless mana. Workshop Assistant and Junk Diver are other artifact Retrievers who can replace Trawler in the combo.
You still have four cards to cut, consider these four? A direction to consider for cuts is further reduce the mana curve? Traxos, Scourge of Kroog is just a beater, all the other 4 drop artifact creatures here do something else as well as being a beater because of menace. Ghouls' Night Out, you don't need this effect with a 5 mana spell that isn't an artifact.
Batterskull is just a beater and it has a very high equip cost which you can't reduce to use it after the Gem is removed. The life gain from Batterskull could be helpful especially with Bolas's Citadel and Anrakyr the Traveller, but I wouldn't play a 5 drop to get life gain when you can gain life from other much lower mana cost sources. Resurrection Orb is another source of lifelink that also has a high equip cost, but Orb is much better for overall strategy here than Batterskull.
Sceptre of Eternal Glory and The Golden Throne are better ramp than Solemn Simulacrum. A reason to cut Solemn is having lots of four drop ramp is not where you want to be with ramp, 0-2 CMC, some 3 CMC ramp is better for gameplay. Mind's Eye is better 5 drop than Ghouls' Night Out and Batterskull, but Eye could also be cut for lower mana cost draw.
Overwhelming Remorse could be cut for Canoptek Tomb Sentinel? The cost reduction of Remorse can be good, but very situational. The potential repeatability of Canoptek since it's an artifact creature to reanimate is better and Canoptek can exile any nonland permanent which is very helpful effect to have in mono black.
2 months ago
I have considered both actually! My DOM sheoldred deck actually uses Imp's Mischief.
The combo is Krark-Clan Ironworks, Scrap Trawler, and Myr Retriever on the field, sac Myr Retriever to it with Sol Ring and Junk Diver in graveyard. Theres a lot to how the combo actually works but it goes infinite with the Imotekh the Stormlord, Blood Artist, and Zulaport Cutthroat. Its not even close to the only combo, the "Station" cards go infite a lot as well.
7 months ago
A few basic optimizations really stand out to me. For example, swapping Workshop Assistant for the cheaper Myr Retriever or the flying Junk Diver. Etherium Sculptor over Jhoira's Familiar is another- though being fair the former doesn't discount non-artifact legendaries.
Unless you need it as a creature, Spine of Ish Sah is probably better than Meteor Golem especially as it synergizes as sacrifice-fuel, and can be tutored out with Arcum. It has the ability to also take down problematic lands if needed, like Fields of the Dead or a flipped Thaumatic Compass.
I'd also highly, HIGHLY recommend Master Transmuter - she's a wonderful addition, her worst case scenario is flickering your artifacts- getting an additional ETB out of them, by putting back down the same artifact you picked up. Her best is swapping a Sol Ring for a Darksteel Forge at instant-speed.
7 months ago
Love crazy stuff like this! One of my own early combos was Junk Diver Myr Retriever Mycosynth Golem Ashnod's Altar. Several pieces were replaceable, usually the altar, and the payoff changed a lot but it was always fun to get some combination of 5+ cards to do something really cool. Actually still have the same cards in my Kozilek deck all these years later lol.
8 months ago
I'm getting a lot of "I get locked out playing my favorite deck so I wanna lock out players too"-vibes. The one difference between Iona and all other problematic cards you named, is that Iona can be your commander, making sure you still have access to it after Oblivion Stone etc. That's where it differs from Leyline of the Void which, yes, can be in play from turn 0, but there's going to be a lot of games where it won't, and it probably won't return after the O-stone.
Iona's also a creature, making sure cards like Ephemerate will customize the color chosen to whatever you need whenever you need it, protecting it from removal in the process.
If you want to lock people out of casting spells, there's still plenty of ways to do it, but it's by combining cards together, not 1 card that does the entire thing for you. With Palinchron you need a mana doubler, with Heartless Hidetsugu you need a damage doubler and a way not to die, with Lavinia, Azorius Renegade you need Knowledge Pool, with Decree of Silence you need Solemnity.
With Iona, Shield of Emeria you need nothing. With Paradox Engine you basically need anything, it's not restrictive enough in its synergies to not be overpowered, while leading to 20 minute turns where one player gets to play all the magic while the others get to watch.
If you're scared of Mindbreak Trap, just play Rule of Law. If your deck doesn't function because of a single card in play, it's badly built. You could still go Sol Ring into Thran Dynamo for Wurmcoil Engine t3 and kill the leyline player. That also stops it from being a problem. Those are all cards that would be amazing in a Daretti deck and doesn't need to break the color pie to get you out of a sticky situation. If you can only do Junk Diver Scrap Trawler loops, that's way more of a restriction on your deck and way easier to devise a backup strategy for than "playing a monocolor".
The rationale for banning Iona is that it leads to a play experience the rules committee wants to discourage, which is locking people out of playing the game. That's paraphrased from the ban article. Not locking out from winning, which is what you're talking about. Also, discourage, not prevent. You can still do it, but a flagship commander for that strategy that, no matter how you build her, it's gonna cause that bad time, that gets banned. Braids, Cabal Minion is banned for the same reason.
Your rationale of "they can now ban cards because they lead to unfun gameplay? They should ban every card that ever blocked my fun then" sounds very entitled, and hard to agree with. It makes you sound as much of a salty bad player as you blame the RC to be.
9 months ago
- Combo 1: Retrievers and Cost reducers
Requirements:Myr Retriever + Junk Diver OR Workshop Assistant + Ashnod's Altar OR Krark-Clan Ironworks + Cloud Key OR Foundry Inspector OR Jhoira's Familiar
Process: Have all cards in play. Sacrifice Myr Retriever. Sacrifice Junk Diver, returning Myr Retriever to hand. Play Myr Retriever. Sacrifice Myr Retreiver, returning Junk Diver to hand.
Result: Infinite Colourless Mana. Infinite Permanent ETBs. Infinite Artifact Casts.
- Combo 2: Retrievers and Sol Ring
Requirements:Krark-Clan Ironworks + Myr Retriever + Junk Diver OR Workshop Assistant + Scrap Trawler + Sol Ring
Process: Have all cards in play. Tap sol ring. Sacrifice sol ring. Sacrifice Junk diver. Return sol ring to hand. pay sol ring. Tap Sol Ring. Sacrifice sol ring. Sacrifice myr retriever, returning both sol ring and junk diver. Play sol ring and junk diver. Tap sol ring. Sacrifice sol ring. Sacrifice junk diver. return sol ring and myr retreiver to hand.
Result: Infinite Colourless Mana. Infinite Permanent ETBs. Infinite Artifact Casts.
- Combo 3: Top off the top
Requirements:Sensei's Divining Top + Mystic Forge OR Future Sight + Jhoira's Familiar OR Foundry Inspector OR Cloud Key
Process: Have all cards in play. Tap Sensei's top to draw a card. Play Sensei's top off the top of library.
Result: Infinite card draw. Infinite* permanent ETBs. Infinite Artifact Casts.
1 year ago
Ramos, Dragon Engine can be a really fun voltron commander. With Blade of the Bloodchief it grows at a crazy pace by casting small creatures for value and doing sacs. Scarecrone Junk Diver and Myr Retriever work really well here, and in 5c there are a lot of options to tutor equipments to get on Ramos.
And, having the dragon be a big flying beater is pretty good, but it really shines when you have some mana dumps. If you get a 14/14 Ramos, and have a sink to throw that mana into when he inevitably gets removed, you can get you some serious value on the way out. Or you could use something like Omnath, Locus of Mana to save mana. Also, if you run Ramos as equipment heavy voltron strategy, being able to equip at instant speed with something like Leonin Shikari is useful to use the mana when Ramos dies to equip your other creatures.
Just a thought ;) I do love the big mecha-dragon.