Grief
Creature — Elemental Incarnation
Menace
When this enters the battlefield, target opponent reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card.
Evoke—Exile a black card from your hand. (You may cast this for its evoke cost. If you do, this is sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)
Trade
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Legality
| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
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Grief Discussion
wallisface on Modern answers to Elemental decks
2 weeks ago
Hi folks,
Recently on mtgo i’ve been coming up against a lot of Elemental decks (example archtype breakdown here), and been struggling to find an optimal sideboard plan for tackling them.
The decks i’ve been playing are largely irrelevant for this thread, as i’m more interested to hear what other people have been sideboarding against this archtype, and what successes/struggles people’ve been having in general.
Their various evoke-based creatures make running any kind of creature-based deck against them a nightmare. Ephemerate is also a huge issue, as a single well-timed casting of it can often cause a big-enough blowout to snowball the game very quickly.
I had thought Torpor Orb was an optimal card, but then i’ve also come across versions of this deck running Grief, which just strips the card from hand immediately. I do get that Orb (and likely Void Mirror) is very strong versus non-Grief builds.
What have been other peoples experiences playing against this deck? Are there any solid counters to the archtype you’ve come across?
Chasmolinker on
Modern Suicide Black
1 month ago
Se7enfoot Thanks for the suggestions. I like Mind Rake however the goal is to attack with the creatures not so much to fill the yard. Persist could be interesting with Grief though… I’ll keep that one in mind
MLS91 on
Crippling Fear
1 month ago
CUT(S)
Minus: Grief
Added: Liliana of the Dark Realms
Why:
She has better synergy with Lake of the Dead counts towards removal(her minus ability) and ramp (fetching swamps and her ultimate which makes everything a lake), filling more positions and better rounding out the deck per say Grief which only comes in handy as a discard piece, at the loss of a card to do so for free isn't really even a bonus when I look at the two side by side.
Jackfrost23 on
Thrag Grenade
2 months ago
Some others: Skyclave Apparition, Siege Rhino, Armada Wurm, Solitude (and Grief if you add black), Eternal Witness (which can be looped with Primal Command), Wall of Omens, Acidic Slime, Tolsimir, Friend of Wolves
galzzly on
Power Overwhelming
2 months ago
Esper Sentinel White card draw, supports artifact themes
Solitude? It's a second Sword to plowshare.
Emiel the Blessed? It's flicker support?
Sakashima of a Thousand Faces? I feel like we have a lot of legendaries. Could be fun?
Solve the Equation? Slow tutor
Tasha's Hideous Laughter? How much does this mill in power cube
Opposition Agent? Do we have enough tutors?
Grief? More discard. do we have flicker support?
Dauthi Voidwalker? How much discard do we have? How much kill spells do we have?
Archon of Cruelty? Does this compete with other reanimator targets using the good reanimator spells?
Port Razer?Extra attacks, but does aggro need this? Is it fast enough?
Prismari Command? It can do so much! but its not great at what it does.
Omnath, Locus of Creation? 4c is a hard sell. also flicker support? also landfall support?
Sword of Hearth and Home? Flicker support, but the prots aren't too strong
Pathways?
galzzly on
Power Overwhelming
2 months ago
Esper Sentinel White card draw, supports artifact themes
Solitude? It's a second Sword to plowshare.
Emiel the Blessed? It's flicker support?
Sakashima of a Thousand Faces? I feel like we have a lot of legendaries. Could be fun?
Solve the Equation? Slow tutor
Tasha's Hideous Laughter? How much does this mill in power cube
Opposition Agent? Do we have enough tutors?
Grief? More discard. do we have flicker support?
Dauthi Voidwalker? How much discard do we have? How much kill spells do we have?
Archon of Cruelty? Does this compete with other reanimator targets using the good reanimator spells?
Port Razer?Extra attacks, but does aggro need this? Is it fast enough?
Prismari Command? It can do so much! but its not great at what it does.
Omnath, Locus of Creation? 4c is a hard sell. also flicker support? also landfall support?
Sword of Hearth and Home? Flicker support, but the prots aren't too strong
Pathways?
DawnsRayofLight on
ULTRA REACTIVE MONO BLACK
2 months ago
I've been playing monoblack in EDH for a while! So, I have some advice I can offer that I hope will help you out!
Land base: 35 should be enough, consider some utility lands: Maze of Ith Cabal Coffers (get it while it is cheap!) maybe some land destruction like Field of Ruin, Wasteland, Ghost Quarter, Strip Mine, etc. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Temple of the False God Cabal Stronghold Castle Locthwain Rogue's Passage
Equipment to boost your general:
Sword of War and Peace, life gain and protection Sword of Light and Shadow, recursion and protection Sword of Hearth and Home, protection, blink your ETB kill a guy creatures, ramp Sword of Feast and Famine, expensive, but super good Lashwrithe: ouch Vorpal Sword: haha double ouch Blackblade Reforged Sword of Truth and Justice Sword of the Animist
I might try to add a few more win cons in your creature base
Vilis, Broker of Blood, draw and beat stick Razaketh, the Foulblooded, search and beat stick K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth ramp and can get big Archon of Cruelty been debating adding it to chainer
Ramp and utility suggestions
Bolas's Citadel: super good but can be rough if you aren't gaining a lot of life Caged Sun: super good ramp and works when your opponents tap Skyclave Relic: better than darksteel ingot Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools: good for draw and blockers Grief: hand control Thought-Knot Seer: hand control Ob Nixilis Reignited: stayed in my chainer deck for a while until Tevesh came along
Grim Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition over diabolic tutor (depends on you play group if they allow a "wish board," some don't, I run acquisition but may pick up a grim tutor for groups not okay with it)
I might lose some of the instant speed removal for:
Hero's Downfall: which you are running Deadly Rollick Eat to Extinction Vraska's Contempt
Some general removal as monoblack suffers from inability to handle certain types like enchant and artifact:
Karn Liberated Ugin, the Ineffable Steel Hellkite Nevinyrral's Disk
Suggested drops:
Tattered Mummy: Not that good, more consistent ways of grinding out damage Skyclave Shade: Bloodghast is better 1x Skeletal Grimace: I get the point, but there are better cards 1x Underworld Dreams: I am iffy on this one, Painful Quandary and Polluted Bonds may be better or good additions to complement it. The entire instant pool save hero's downfall and malicious affliction, there are better killspells Expedition Map: really only useful for setting up tron or land combos Liliana, Waker of the Dead: Liliana Vess works better
The True Meaning of Death and Taxes: this is my chainer death and taxes reanimator list, check it out for suggestions, I have a lot of cards in the maybeboard I have considered and even used at one point that may spark some ideas.
zAzen7977 on
TINY PUNISHER - Discard/Stax [cEDH Primer MH2]
2 months ago
Hey MrNoodlesworth, sorry for the super late reply. I haven’t had a chance to play much lately due to work. I added Grief (cutting Inquisition of Kozilek ), Dauthi Voidwalker (cutting Planar Void ), and Tourach, Dread Cantor (cutting Tainted AEther as you suggested, since I’m running more creatures). I added additional Planeswalker removal in the form of Baleful Mastery and Murderous Rider , since lately I have had difficulty dealing with them. To make room I cut Slaughter Pact and Force of Despair . I also swapped Thought Vessel for Reliquary Tower so I can have infinite hand size for 0 mana. Sometimes I needed infinite hand size but didn’t have the 2 mana to spend on Vessel.