Thraben Doomsayer
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Thraben Doomsayer

Creature — Human Cleric

: Put a 1/1 white Human creature token onto the battlefield.

Fateful Hour — As long as you have 5 or less life, other creatures you control get +2/+2.

king-saproling on

1 year ago

Things like Steward of Solidarity, Presence of Gond, Thraben Doomsayer, Splinter Twin, Krenko, Mob Boss, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Tolsimir Wolfblood, Godsire go infinite alongside your general and 3 other creatures

kamarupa on Moonlight Sonata

2 years ago

I think I might favor Tocasia's Welcome over Collected Company here, though Welcome would be even better if your bounce effects could happen on your opponent's turns. Ephemerate isn't quite as repeatable as Soulherder, but it is cheaper to cast, though not a creature spell itself. There's also the classic Restoration Angel, but that seems too high MV and only a one time use. Saltskitter seems interesting, but not particularly reliable. Eldrazi Displacer would be great if it didn't require 3 mana to activate. Thraben Doomsayer doesn't give the all the benefits of a bounce, but token generation is still a powerful trigger with Soul Sisters. If any of those made the cut, then I'd say you didn't need Blue spells at all, which would make your mana base faster, cheaper, and more reliable.

I think Speaker of the Heavens is a pretty perfect fit with Soul Sisters.

While on principle, I like protecting permanents, I think Patch Up might be strong enough that removing your creatures could prove more helpful to you than to your opponents - something that usually frustrates the hell out of me.

I'm not convinced shock and fetch are the best lands. While the lifeloss is less painful when counterbalanced with Soul Sisters' lifegain, it also negates some of the advantage of gaining life. Equally efficient lands that don't cost life would be better. Pathways and fast lands seem, at least to me, just as good if not better: Barkchannel Pathway  Flip, Branchloft Pathway  Flip, Hengegate Pathway  Flip, Seachrome Coast, Razorverge Thicket, Botanical Sanctum

Max_Hammer on These silly hoomans - Need Help

2 years ago

Well hello there! I had way too much time on my hands, so here’s this. By the way, it’s all ordered best to worst. (:

Pay less to play more.

  • Circle of Dreams Druid is going to drop loads of mana, assuming you can pay the three green.
  • Fallaji Wayfarer is going to give all of your stuff (including your commander) convoke! Not all, but a lot.
  • Hamza, Guardian of Arashin is going to make a lot of your creatures cost a lot less.
  • Herald of War makes all of your humans dirt cheap if he gets counters. But, oh, what’s that? This deck loves making counters for creatures? Perfect.
  • Nissa's Expedition is just Cultivate but it potentially costs a lot less.
  • Gaea's Cradle is perfect if you have a small fortune laying around and you’re in need of mana.
I need more! More!!!

  • Bennie Bracks, Zoologist every time you make a token? So every turn? Alright, sick.
  • Ulvenwald Mysteries lets you investigate the murder of your entire army. A board wipe kills this deck, but this (plus loads of mana) could help bring it back.
  • Season of Growth lets you scry a lot, letting you look for pretty much whatever and just pull it out.
No, you’re not allowed to have that! Because I said so! Exile it! Now!

  • Devouring Light, Conclave Tribunal, Hour of Reckoning are all removal spells but if you’re on a mana budget with a lot of 1/1’s.
  • Elspeth Tirel is a board wipe, if you manage to keep her around for long enough. If that’s not what you need, though, she’s got plenty of utility otherwise.
  • Coordinated Barrage, Kabira Takedown  Flip, and Outflank aren’t super powerful, but can destroy pretty much anything that comes your way. If it’s not hexproofed, shrouded, or indestructible, it will be killed.
  • Devout Chaplain says “The power of Christ compels you! Begone!” but this time it actually works.
  • Sanctuary Lockdown lets you say “Not this combat phase, Satan,” and if you have enough mana, you can do that again and again and again. Plus, if you decide you can’t, then it’s still a big boy.
  • Kamahl's Will will destroy just about anything in sight and can give you extra attacking force, if you can manage a way to keep all of your lands safe.
Gotta keep your stuff safe, yeah?

  • Loxodon Hierarch is going to save your deck (which is very sensitive to board wipes) from a board wipe, judy once. Use wisely.
  • Scapegoat won’t save your tokens, but it will save everyone else, commander included.
  • Kindred Boon can slowly but surely make literally every creature you own indestructible.
  • Ephemeral Shields is extra protection that can easily be pulled out of your back pocket.
  • Basri's Lieutenant isn’t going to save your deck, but it will buy you time or give you a chance next turn at a kill, if the board wiper was low.
Make all of your stuff bigger!

Make more stuff! The theme of these suggestions is Give me more, if you couldn’t have guessed.

Might of the Masses is always fun in a creature deck, one green for a massive “Fuck you” at instant speed is great. Now here’s a bunch of Might of the Masses style cards.

I was looking for cards with the keyword “Human” and a million Gideon cards came up, so here’s all of the Gideon Planeswalkers. None of them are bad, per se, but all Gideon cards are not made equal.

  • Gideon, the Oathsworn just happens to slip and give all of your creatures an absurd number of counters. Not to mention the big body (noticing a pattern yet?) and the one-sided board wipe! He’s got a weird face again, sadly, pass.
  • Gideon, Champion of Justice is a board wipe and a big, bad creature all wrapped into one. 7/10, he can dominate me.
  • Gideon Jura can goad and destroy stuff. Perfect for removal and instigating fights when you know you’ll win. Not to mention the big scary 6/6 lurking beneath. Also a weird face, pass.
  • Gideon of the Trials reads “Fuck your biggest creature, he’s not going to do anything, and also, as long as I’m around, fuck you more.” Nothing crazy, but can definitely make you public enemy #1 for having an effect like that. Pretty normal face, but that ability makes him a dick. 3.4/10
  • Kytheon, Hero of Akros  Flip is just some kid. Ignore him. This is a child, pass.
  • Gideon, Battle-Forged!? Where did you come from? Nothing super interesting here, but for one mana not bad. Weird face, pass.
  • Gideon, Martial Paragon can give buffs to all of your stuff, which is definitely not bad at all, and your opponents are automatically dead if he gets that ten ability off. That said, this Gideon can get it. 10/10.
  • Gideon Blackblade is eh. He’s okay. He can get it, though. 7/10.
  • Gideon, Ally of Zendikar can do some generic Gideon stuff. Make tokens, give buffs, be a 4/4. Eh. 6.7/10.
This is just stuff I couldn’t find a specific panel for, so yeah.

Your deck is pretty spotless, so unless some of these are direct upgrades or you know what you want to take out, then this is all I have for you here.

  • Thraben Doomsayer’s first ability can be easily beaten by other cards, and his second ability is mostly useless, since you’re pretty screwed at 5 HP either way.
  • Heron's Grace Champion Lifelink is cool, but not something you super need. It’d be worth it if it was permanent, but it’s not, so pass.
  • Maja, Bretagard Protector just feels a little expensive for such a lackluster ability, Idunno.

    • robstalobsta on Baby got Background

    2 years ago

    Alloy Myr Gold Myr Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile Devout Harpist Guiding Spirit Thraben Doomsayer Shaile, Dean of Radiance  Flip Stonehewer Giant

    legendofa on Need a good card that …

    2 years ago

    ((Cathars' Crusade or First Day of Class or Celebrity Fencer or Hamletback Goliath)) + ((Elemental Mastery or Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or Splinter Twin or Krenko, Mob Boss or Thraben Doomsayer)) + Intruder Alarm goes infinite for tokens and +1/+1 counters. There's no particular synergy with Hinata, Dawn-Crowned, though.

    Defied-27 on Human Co

    2 years ago

    Maybe some cards to think about could be Thraben Doomsayer and Champion of the Parish. Cheers :)

    gavriel1136 on Balancing my 2 decks against …

    3 years ago

    Just from glancing at the two decks, they don't seem very balanced, with the blue deck being much stronger. Right off the bat, with so many counterspells plus boardwipes, you're gonna frustrate the heck out of the white deck.

    Additionally, the blue deck has really good early plays that grow stronger, while the white deck mostly has high CMC plays (I do see you added a few Raise the Alarm, which is good).

    With so many high CMC spells, those counterspells hurt even more, making it difficult to do anything.

    Lastly, the blue deck has more boardwipes, and better ones than the white deck. Especially for a token deck, particularly one that is focusing on one-time token making effects, this is devastating. These one-sided wipes in combination with your 12 counterpells means that the white deck will likely never get to do anything ever.

    Here are my suggestions: For white, add more low-to the-ground token makers. Also add repeatable token effects, like Castle Ardenvale or Thraben Doomsayer. Maybe throw in a better boardwipe or way to protect from so many counterspells, like with extra utility cards with flashback or escape.

    P.S. Shalai literally does nothing for the deck since blue deck has no spells that target anything she protects. I know you were thinking of her pump effect, but that is incredibly mana intensive. I'd replace her with an anthem, especially a 2 CMC or 3 CMC one.

    For the blue deck, I recommend lowering the number of counterspells. I think having 2 of each is PLENTY. Focusing on sea creatures is fine, maybe have only 1 boardwipe in the entire deck, since they can be a little too devastating.

    I guess the core issue with the blue deck is that the white one has no way to interact with it. There is no anti-counterspell suite, white doesn't have ways to untap to undo Sleep, and you aren't running any type of removal that 'Protection from X' could be helpful with. For the decks to be fun, you both need threats that the other can answer.

    I know this was long, feel free to ask any questions.

    Massacar on Tap/Untap Adavantage

    3 years ago

    Depending on competitiveness and mana curve etc. I avoided cards that use the exert mechanic and otherwise required combat phases to trigger their tap effects. All of these cards do something when either tapped/untapped or in some cases both. This is by no means an exhaustive list

    Arbiter of the Ideal, Augusta, Dean of Order, Ballynock Trapper, Daring Thief, Fallowsage, Goblin Sharpshooter + Basilisk Collar/Gorgon's Head, Thermo-Alchemist, Wake Thrasher, Mikaeus, the Lunarch, Thraben Doomsayer, Merfolk Looter, Goblin Welder, Merrow Reejerey

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