Creature — Human Monk Cleric
When Monk Idealist enters the battlefield, return target enchantment card from your graveyard to your hand.
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Monk Idealist Discussion
3 months ago
First of all, love the deck.
I have been building my own version and this has given me some different ways of looking at things, thanks.
Secondly, some thoughts or questions:
- Restoration Angel only targets non-Angels so it wouldn't target Wispweaver Angel .
- Austere Command might be a better choice than Cleansing Nova . More control over what is destroyed for only 1 mana.
- Maybe Fountain Watch or Monk Idealist .
- Didn't you have Helm of Obedience in your list?
1 year ago
I would personally run Nethroi, Apex of Death. Nethroi has lifelink which can be fun to pump up with auras, but Nethroi's reanimate ability can be seriously powerful at enchantment reanimation if you build your deck right.
Auramancer, Griffin Dreamfinder, Monk Idealist, Restoration Specialist, Trusty Retriever, Acolyte of Affliction, Golgari Findbroker, Lurrus of the Dream-Den, Eternal Witness, Felidar Guardian. These make excellent targets to recur enchantments and auras with as you could recur 4 to 5 enchantments every time Nethroi mutates.
Do keep in mind a few card draw enchantment creatures also have 0 power making them free to reanimate too. Creatures like: Argothian Enchantress, Mesa Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Kor Spiritdancer.
Also if you run out of enchantments to recur I'd recommend running these enchantments as they're easy to both put into the graveyard and obtain value off of them which is what will make this strategy even stronger: Sinister Concoction, Seal of Primordium, Seal of Cleansing, Soul Snare, Weight of Conscience, Aura of Silence, Font of Fertility, Sterling Grove and Unbridled Growth. Sigil of the Nayan Gods and Cast Out also work if you only intend to cycle them.
1 year ago
Lost Auramancers Greater Auramancy Door to Nothingness Conflux Wargate Plea for Guidance Idyllic Tutor Enlightened Tutor Kruphix's Insight Alseid of Life's Bounty Chromanticore Starfield Mystic Sower of Discord Bitter Feud Destiny Spinner Sterling Grove Estrid, the Masked Auramancer Hanna, Ship's Navigator Monk Idealist Dance of the Manse Open the Vaults Enduring Ideal Crystal Chimes Peut être sphere of safety,norn annex, propaganda et ghostly prison pour se proteger Underworld coinsmith et grim guardian Et des tutor
1 year ago
So I like your deck as it is very similar to an enchantment deck I run Enchantress Harvest. However, here are a few suggestions you might want to consider.
Should Karametra really be your commander? For the longest time I had Karametra as my commander because she ramped and doubled as an enchantment but, the reality is by the time you have 5 mana how effective is getting an additional land each time you play a creature, especially with a deck that has a CMC at 2.83? I ended up adding her to the 99 and switched to Shalai, Voice of Plenty as my commander. The upside of Shalai is she provided additional protection for all my enchantress and, gave me a mana sink for when I had additional mana. Even if you don’t run her as your commander I would still consider adding her as part of the 99. Maybe consider switching out Aegis of the Gods or Nyx-Fleece Ram for her?
I counted 9 aura’s in your deck so I would consider swapping out either Auramancer or Monk Idealist (Preferable the Monk because Rebecca Guay’s art on Auramancer is amazing) for Heliod's Pilgrim. I have found the pilgrim is a good situational card and rarely becomes a dead draw. Depending on the situation she can act like a Sakura-Tribe Elder fetching out one of your enchant lands effectively ramping you or, she can pull out one of your aura based targeted removal spells to remove key threats off the board.
How good is Nyx-Fleece Ram in this deck? Sure, it is an enchantment creature and sure you gain a life each turn but, how impactful is the lifegain and, other than being an enchantment based wall how important is this card in your deck? Personally, I would swap it out for Destiny Spinner because they both count as enchantments but, more importantly the Spinner is making 55 of your cards in your deck uncounterable. If you throw your lands in there, then with Destiny Spinner out 92 / 100 cards in your deck can’t be countered. That is a huge setback for the blue players at the table. Also, don’t write off that second ability because, it is common by turn 9 to have 10 plus enchantments on the board and, more mana than you know what to do with. There have been several times in the late game I am sitting with 20+ mana nothing to play and a ton of enchantments on the board. Turning 3 or 4 of my lands into huge 10+ P/T creatures with trample can quickly end one of my opponents, especially if they don’t see it coming.
Replace Emeria, The Sky Ruin with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. In order for Emeria to work you need to have every plains you are running in this deck out which seems very unlikely. Most games this is going to function as a plains that comes into play tapped with little upside. Nykthos, on the other hand, will give you gobs of mana especially considering most of the things in your deck are permanents.
I personally would remove Sakura-Tribe Elder and consider replacing him with something like Cryptolith Rite or Dryad of the Ilysian Grove. Cryptolith Rite is useful in this deck because you typically will have a lot of enchantress on board doing nothing for you besides giving you card advantage. Why not put those ladies to work and turn them into mana dorks?
Replace Green Sun's Zenith with Finale of Devastation. For me this is more of a personal preference as both are really good and I ran GSZ for many years in my enchantress deck but, what I like about the Finale better is I can pull stuff from my graveyard if necessary or in the late game it functions almost like a Craterhoof Behemoth since your deck should be creating insane amounts of mana. One of my typical wincon’s when I have a large board state is to cast Finale of Devastation for 12+ mana and search out Nylea, God of the Hunt to give everything trample (if I already have her out then I will grab the biggest flyer I have left in the deck). Then I will swing with the team. Even with just a few creatures on the board you are giving everything you have trample and at least +10/+10 which typically will mean the end of one or more players.
A few cards I would consider adding:
Captain Sisay I can’t tell you how powerful this card is in your deck. Already I counted 8 legendary cards in your deck and, with the inclusion of cards like Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx or, Shalai, Voice of Plenty that number will rise. Even with the 8 legendries you have if you get to untap with her you are going to be pulling cards like, Gaea's Cradle, Serra's Sanctum or, Dragonlord Dromoka which anyone of those cards alone could put you way ahead of all your opponents. Most importantly she is an amazing toolbox answer to anything your opponents will throw at you. Needing additional mana? Then use her to grab one of your busted lands. One of your key enchantments got destroyed? Sounds like it is time to grab Hall of Heliod's Generosity. Black player got you down because they keep making you sacrifice your stuff? Then go grab your Sigarda, Host of Herons and give that player the middle finger! I can keep going but you get the point of how powerful getting the answer at any given situation in the game can be.
Nylea's Colossus I never knew just how powerful this card was until I saw it played against me. I was in a game when it came down and my opponent was like, “ok I will make my 4/4 flying angle token an 8/8. I will then play this enchantment, the angle is now a 16/16. For my final 2 mana I will play a Darksteel Mutation on your commander making that angle a 32/32 then attack. Do you have any flying creatures to block with?” I respond with, “I did have one until you turned it into an insect” which my opponent responds, “O ok well then you take 32 damage, Good Game!” Play against a Nylea’s Colossus once and see how busted that card can make even the smallest of creatures become.
Academy Rector, Idyllic Tutor, Enlightened Tutor and, Plea for Guidance all basically do the same thing, tutor for enchantments. If you can’t afford the Academy Rector or Enlightened Tutor then I understand not adding those to the deck but the other two tutors are super cheap right now and should be added. Basically, the more abilities you have to tutor in the deck the more answers you will be able to retrieve to solve the situation at hand. One common misconception people have is if you are going to tutor then you are always going to be tutoring for the same cards which is not always the case in a deck like this plus if you are playing against lower power level decks then don’t always search for your powerful cards like Sigil of the Empty Throne instead opt for something less powerful like a Soul Snare or one of your big enchantment creatures to use them as a big beater.
Wrath of God / Day of Judgment and Austere Command. I was like you and only ran Quarantine Field for years as my single mass removal spell and, I would always run into situations where I need an answer to a scary board state. Once I ditched Quarantine Field for Wrath of God and threw in Austere Command I found I had more answers to what my opponents where doing. I would personally run both but, if you had to pick one then I would use Austere Command because it will allow you to deal with more problems on the board. However, if you are going to run Wrath of God then you need to get the From the Vault Annihilation version because it has Heliod kicking ass in the artwork! (gotta stay on theme!)
Ancestral Mask that card just rocks in any enchantment deck but, I use it as a secondary wincon. So many games I will attach Ancestral Mask to Shalai and instantly turn her from a 3 / 4 into something silly like a 24 / 25 with the large amount of enchantments I have on the board then knock an unsuspecting player out from commander damage. It is even better if you have Nylea's Colossus on board because with the Ancestral Mask alone you can turn your commander into something silly like a 50 / 51 or bigger.
Sun Titan This one is more of a personal preference of mine but, because you are running so many 3 cmc or less permanents in the deck this card will do a lot of work in the reclamation department.
Overall I think you have a really strong deck and are off to a fantastic start. Some of the suggestions I suggested are based on things I have seen playing my own enchantress deck. Also, throwing in those alternate wincons makes the deck more enjoyable to pay because I am not winning in the same fashion every single game. On top of that it also helps to make the deck a lot more resistant. Lastly, because there is no true go to Selesnya enchantment commander don’t be afraid to switch up who you use as your commander. In fact, I will commonly switch out my decks commander from Shalai to one of my other legendary creatures before matches based on what I am facing. If I find someone in the pod has a stax based deck then I am throwing in Sigarda as the commander. I find myself up against a lot of decks with blue in them then using Dromoka as the commander can be a fantastic choice.
1 year ago
If you’re constantly playing games where you draw out your deck, Laboratory Maniac and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries would be good additions. After Theros Beyond Death, Thassa's Oracle can also act similar to Lab man, and can be used earlier to win if you’ve got enough blue devotion on the field.
1 year ago
Have you considered adding these cards with the amount of enchantments you are running Kor Spiritdancer, Mesa Enchantress, Heliod's Pilgrim, Auramancer, and Monk Idealist? Not sure if you need to run all of them but, all 5 of those cards could help to keep the deck more consistant.
1 year ago
I found this because I'm building a Kardor enchantment deck as well. Cool to see the ideas others have around similar deck ideas.
I built my first Kardor deck this past November at Command Fest Seattle, and it ended up with both Heliod's Pilgrim and Monk Idealist . I was able to play Heliod's Pilgrim then search for Pattern of Rebirth to put on it. I could then sac the pilgrim and use rebirth's trigger to find the monk which sent pattern of rebirth back to my hand. This sets the deck up to start getting some value and it's what lead me to want to build the enchantment focused version. On that note, I'm surprised not to see pattern of rebirth in here? Also, maybe an Auratouched Mage ?
Did you end up keeping this deck together and taking it any further?
2 years ago
No Shield of the Oversoul ? Hexproof is all well and good, but I think the more ways you can get to protect Uril from boardwipes, the better.
Since auras themselves are often vulnerable, you might appreciate Monk Idealist and Nomad Mythmaker as ways to recycle lost goodies. Kor Spiritdancer , Verduran Enchantress , Mesa Enchantress and Eidolon of Blossoms are likewise ways to help combat card disadvantage from auras - or even earn card advantage from them, if you're lucky!