Helm of Obedience
(X), Tap: Target opponent puts cards from the top of his or her library into his or her graveyard until a creature card or X cards are put into that graveyard this way, whichever comes first. If a creature card is put into that graveyard this way, sacrifice Helm of Obedience and put that card into play under your control. X can't be 0.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Helm of Obedience Discussion
2 weeks ago
DreadKhan I used to have Rule of Law in, but ended cutting it for Arcane Laboratory so it can be pitched to Force of Will more regularly. It can absolutely get in the way of the consultation win, but I play with Ad Nauseam players and it hurts them far more often. I dont know why I never thought of copying Helm of Obedience . Maybe ill put Mirrormade back in.
I dont think I've ever even seen Web of Inertia . Worth considering for sure.
In my playgroup, I have a hard time winning through voltron. I took All That Glitters out, but with more copy enchantment/artifact effects, it would be worth including again
Thank you for your suggestions!
2 weeks ago
Rule of Law is another 1 spell per turn enchantment, as is Eidolon of Rhetoric , both fetchable, and Archon of Emeria is great but not an enchantment. I run a Rule of Law based Zur deck, but I set it up so my win cons don't require 2 spells in the same turn. Does Consultation play nice with Laboratory for you, it seems like you are at risk of blocking your own win con sometimes.
Speaking of win cons, if you set up Helm of Obedience you might want to fetch a Mirrormade next, so you can kill the remaining 2 players in 1 turn, 1 the first turn you set up, then the remaining two the next turn. The versatile copy effect has lots of niche uses, so it's not a dead card (even if all you do is copy Sol Ring when you fetch it up, it's doing work I'd argue).
Web of Inertia is sometimes a lot better than Energy Field if being attacked period matters, IE vs Najeela or Eldrazi. If you just want the damage prevention I like Solitary Confinement , so I can't be targeted.
All That Glitters is, I find anyways, the best Zur Voltron card you'll find, often providing enough buff to win on it's own in slower match ups, IE if your hate cards do work. Any Copy Enchantment type effects (I run 3) synergize really well with Glitters.
2 months ago
Detention Sphere plays well with Estrid's Invocation, you can keep clearing out one type of tokens a turn. The Invocation can also be used this way to fiddle with things that don't like being exiled, such as vs +1/+1 counter stuff, or evenIsochron Scepter if someone isn't winning outright off of it.
3 months ago
Actually, osiczym, thinking about it... I guess the argument for why this works is the same argument for the following cards/interactions:
Landless Goblin Charbelcher
All of these have the implicit command of stopping the effect once the library count reaches zero...
So I guess there you go, that's why this works
3 months ago
Helm of Obedience if not going combo route
Arisen Gorgon Too dependant on Liliana being on the field
Gorgon Recluse Too high CMC for what you do
Infernal Medusa Medusa /= Gorgon
Keepsake Gorgon Too high mana for one and done
Korozda Gorgon Too high CMC && not running heavy +1+1 Presence
Ohran Viper As you are in blue, you have better options for card draw, especially because this one means you have to deal damage to player first.
Oona's Blackguard Cut unless you are rogue heavy
Pitiless Gorgon All your snakes will typically have deathtouch or be able to gain it, at 3 mana this should do more.
Gaze of the Gorgon A little too high mana but hilarious at the same time.
Vraska, Relic Seeker Might be better for pirate deck, it's not on flavor at all here, and not in line with or as powerful as your other walkers.
Vraska, Swarm's Eminence This is useful however high mana for what it does, totally up to you, this could go either way.
Chromatic Lantern To ensure you make colors. Given you're going heavy black we may need to revise this item.
Chevill, Bane of Monsters super value at 2 cmc
Baleful Strix Super value at 2cmc, fly, dedtouch, card draw
Fathom Feeder value town, and if you yank combo pieces this can help facilitate a win with it's ability
Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons 2cmc, high high values and makes SNEKS!!!!
Hythonia the Cruel Yeet cannons all non-gorgon creatures + big creature
Seshiro the Anointed SNEK SNEK +2+2 to all SNEKS! Draw card wen snek do damage!
Kaseto, Orochi Archmage Unblockable +2+2 SNEKS!
Prowling Serpopard Make's your Sneks and Gorgon's Un-Counterable
Stonecoil Serpent cool snek, but I think you might already have cooler in deck & on list
Orochi Hatchery Funny stuff this one, totally up to you
Bow of Nylea all creatures get deathtouch + more check this one out
Ohran Frostfang Gives attacking creatures you control ded touch and when your creatures damage a player, draw a card.
Kodama's Reach Mana Ramp
Search for Tomorrow Mana Ramp
Three Visits Mana Ramp
4 months ago
Mindcrank + Bloodchief Ascension / Leyline of the Void + Helm of Obedience / Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Cinderhaze Wretch These are some solid combos for discard tribal, and usually a quick closeout for a game.
I'd leave the Painful Quandary in and opt out Oppression. Every time I've played Oppression, its fucked me in the long run. Library of Leng is better than Anvil of Bogardan in my opinion, since it only applies to you. Definitely include that Sangromancer, crazy value in a discard deck. Mind Rake > Mind Rot just cause of the overload cost. Some cards to think about adding in Imp's Mischief, Rankle, Master of Pranks, Syphon Mind, Mind Twist, Archfiend of Ifnir, Banshee of the Dread Choir. Good lookin deck though! Hope these suggestions can help you out
6 months ago
Nice deck bro, I love the aproach you've given to a merfolk deck.
See ya <3