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| Casual | Legal |
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Helm of Obedience
Artifact
(X), Tap: Target opponent puts cards from the top of his or her library into his or her graveyard until a creature card or X cards are put into that graveyard this way, whichever comes first. If a creature card is put into that graveyard this way, sacrifice Helm of Obedience and put that card into play under your control. X can't be 0.
ThassaUpYo@ssa on
Davy Jones Locker
1 week ago
Solid suggestions...what would be reasonable to swap out in favor of Helm of Obedience, Praetor's Grasp, Stifle, and Tale's End?
Profet93 on
Davy Jones Locker
1 week ago
Although not exactly friendly to your average cmc, a Leyline of the Void/Dauthi Voidwalker. Adding in a Helm of Obedience for theme but more importantly combo
At the risk of "wasting" your spell on it, Praetor's Grasp. Luckily you can just take their sol ring, mana crypt or important combo piece should they not run eldrazi.
Hope this helps!
Profet93 on
Tinybones, The Pickpocket
1 month ago
LivingThing +1
Nice low avg cmc. I don't think you have enough basics to consistently ramp with Cabal Stronghold. Have you considered swapping it for a Volrath's Stronghold or another utility land such as Buried Ruin to recur one of your artifacts?
What is the wincon, commander damage and/or value from thieving opponent's graves? If it is the former, perhaps a Hatred might serve you well? Or if it's the latter, a Strionic Resonator to double up on casting?
Do you feel you have enough draw, especially given your low avg cmc? A Read the Bones could help. I'm unsure if you're into combos but a Helm of Obedience goes with your voidwalker. It also fits on theme, although it's cmc is relatively high for this build.
Should you wish, Arterial Flow and Mind Twist are additional discard effects. Note that mind twist does say random. I love ramping into it early game and just neutering one opponent to make him easy to hit consistently.
Balaam__ on
Mono Black Helm
4 months ago
Np. Decks like these recall the golden age of Magic to my mind. I also enjoy when people post detailed descriptions, and this definitely qualifies.
As an aside, to link cards they need to be enclosed in double square brackets. I saw a couple in the description with single brackets and figured that’s what you were going for. [Helm of Obedience] becomes Helm of Obedience.
SufferFromEDHD on
Hootsnag Dimir Control
5 months ago
I do too. There is a beauty to how both of these flow. They both efficiently establish control they just go about it in slightly different ways. I will be using one of them in a future prize tournament.
Absorb/Dovin's Veto to Undermine/Countersquall
Celestial Colonnade to Creeping Tar Pit
Helm of Obedience works as a win condition in both lists off of different enchantments.
This has been a stellar month for deck design. I'm still goldfishing the Numot list. Winning with animated mana rocks after nuking all lands is awesome.
wolfhead on Modern Horizons 3 Predictions/Wishlist
8 months ago
I've been hoping for fireblast for a few horizons now,
With all the free spells in modern now, why the hell not.
Would Goblin Welder be too far?
I think another free creature like one of the kobolds or Phyrexian Walker would be interesting.
The Fiery Confluence cycle would be cool and I don't think would affect much,
(I'm basically using that as a placeholder because there's been a couple commander-product cards printed over the last few years I've thought would be cool in modern but I can't remember any of them right now)
I would love to see pyroblast but I don't know if they'll feel obligated to print hydro too,
Personally, I would also love to see an interesting combo piece like Helm of Obedience,
And maybe something weird for combo/control like Arcane Denial.
I think a second Gravecrawler might be interesting and hopefully wouldn't lead to superlong turns,
I would LOVE a two-mana Doran, the Siege Tower more than any other card,
I think a strictly-better Wild Nacatl / Kird Ape wouldn't hurt nobody,
And I think Chain Lightning would be sweet.
I KIND of want that legacy infect spell that gains the opponent life, but that might be too far. Maybe Berserk? Deaths shadow wouldn't mind
I think there's design space for a bauble-like enchantment, but unholy heat kind of ruined that.
An electromancer with ward would be sweet, but wizards would never encourage storm gameplay so maybe with the text "you can only cast two spells a turn"?
Also, I think back to basics would be awesome, I don't care what would happen.
OUTinMinnesota on
Deny & Delete
9 months ago
As of Jun 28, 2023, updates have been made to improve playability of this deck.
Playtesting with 2 opponents (3-player games) had revealed that the deck needed multiple methods that allow me to sacrifice Toluz, Clever Conductor when:
- I'm ready to; maybe because I want to scoop up all the cards being held in exile (ability of this commander)
- I need to short-circuit an opponent's attempt to exile Toluz, Clever Conductor
The deck now contains three cards to enable creature sacrifice:
Other (Additional) Deck Changes:
New MTG creature cards have been released which allow the player to momentarily exile their own creatures:
That's powerful for this deck, so those two cards have been added. They work well with the deck's function of sending permanents into exile, turn after turn:
I'm eager to play this deck again.
Ammonzy on
Temptation and Depravity [Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor]
1 year ago
Yes, I enjoy the redundancy of the maximum hand size effect as it's not unusual for the deck to have 7+ cards in hand. Especially once you have about 3-4 evasive creatures on board, Im more looking towards spamming Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor rather than play the deck itself. I believe the biggest strength of Gix as a commander is that the 99 is capable of investing into creatures, removal, and whatever subtheme you desire while not worrying about card draw cards or really win-con cards.
I'm also at a stage in my Magic life where I wish to play with more interesting cards rather than tried-and-true staples. Im even thinking of replacing Torment of Hailfire with Vorpal Sword as that would be a much more satisfying way to win or at least have impact on a game.
Helm of Obedience is cool but doesnt do enough for me to wish to spend $29 for a damaged copy minimum or around $40 for a moderated played lol.
Rings of Brighthearth definitely is a great card & I appreciate you teaching me about the possible interaction with fetchlands as I never thought about that. But I know most ppl associate Rings with a combo piece and draws lots of hate. But the ability to double Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor's ability for only an extra is very sexy and aligns with what I want to do, so its more about what would I swap out for it.
Discard is a subtheme of the deck so I dont believe singular discard cards like Mind Twist are worth a slot because we dont have enough benefits from it. The discard theme is more so to play psychological games with our opponents. So for this, I only picked the best of the discard cards. I made an exception for Overwhelming Forces from my typical removal choices because I find myself in situations where 1 player is the obvious threat and I'm 2nd place, so I dont really wish to erase my board so that the whole table is equal.
Its a pretty greedy card but I think playing EDH requires a certain amount of greed in order to pull through certain games of (high powered) casual.
Contamination and Infernal Darkness probably would be great picks to make the deck more competitive. However I believe those cards would make my friends and other players hate this deck combined with the already high-salt theme of discard haha.
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