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Start / Finish
Create two 1/1 white Warrior creature tokens with vigilance.
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
As an additional cost to cast Finish, sacrifice a creature.
Destroy target creature.
Start / Finish Discussion
1 week ago
Not really liking Fumigate in main. Have you thought about Start / Finish
2 weeks ago
I am assuming you are on a bit of a budget, which is fine. But otherwise, shock and fetchlands would help out your deck a lot. You do not need 4 Vault of the Archangels though, and I would swap some of those out for Ghost Quarters. Windbrisk Heights can also help a lot. Manabase aside, you need Spectral Procession, and targeted discard. Normally this involves 6-10 copies of a mixture of Collective Brutality, Inquisition of Kozilek, and Thoughtseize. Raise the Alarm is also much better than Gather the Townsfolk, and Sorin, Solemn Visitor is better than Sorin, Lord of Innistrad. Other walkers commonly found in BW tokens are Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, and Elspeth, Knight-Errant. Some lists have also been trying recently with Start / Finish. Here is the Primer on MTGSalvation if you want to learn more about the archetype.
2 weeks ago
ZackBinks created a new primer that is more up to date, but I don't believe that one is currently active either. I haven't seen as many people playing it online or irl either, but that said I don't think the deck is dramatically weaker that it used to be or anything. Just a bit less popular. We've even got some new toys recently- Concealed Courtyard, Fatal Push, Start / Finish, and others.
On that note, what does everyone think about including a singleton Shefet Dunes? Seems like it could be a reasonable way to push out some extra damage without really stretching the manabase.
3 weeks ago
Strong list. Given any thought or testing to Start / Finish or Shefet Dunes? Both seem solid for helping when we flood out, and the prior gives us extra removal without spending extra slots, though neither is overly powerful. Also, when did you remove Windbrisk Heights from the deck entirely, and have you found you miss the extra card draw/tricks?
3 weeks ago
Nice list!. Personally, I don't feel that Fatal Push is good enough if you don't have fetches. Dismember and Go for the Throat may prove stronger. Feel free to keep them in if your meta has a lot of small creature decks, though. Thoughtseize is also great if you can get a hold of them.
Also, I'd say personally, Throne of the God-Pharaoh is just much worse than Honor of the Pure if you want another effect to add damage. No, it doesn't help with Smuggler's Copter, but I think you'll find that Copter tends to eat Fatal Pushs and Lightning Bolts that would've otherwise been dead cards pretty often.
Otherwise though, there's not much to criticize here. I especially like Start / Finish, I feel like that card will become a staple in this deck (until we get a new two mana token spell that's better than Raise the Alarm, at least). Good luck with the deck!
4 weeks ago
Khe-Loc I've been running 2 Start / Finish in place of the last 2 Spectral, they've been good well beyond any expectations as the utility makes up for the rather subpar rates on both ends. I can't say I've had any color issues, which could in part due to only running 2 Spectral.
1 month ago
Fatal Push would have gone in straight away, I just never had the money and no else had the card (for trade). As for the Altar's Reap, I'm going to keep that in. It provides much needed card draw and protects razaketh from being exiled as he can't sac himself. I can't say the same for Start / Finish I'll probably put in murder then. Now that I think murder protects razaketh from exile too. Thanks for the advice!
1 month ago
Hey! Thanks for the feedback. This is definitely less midrange, so I don't know how much advice I can really offer--except the Approach takes up only one spot and offers a really useful combo finish, so I think it's maybe worth a look.
I like the Demon of Dark Schemes, he might find a home in my SB!
Otherwise, I would really just recommend replacing some of the sac effects with removal. You don't really need sac in a deck like this, since you wouldn't want to sac fatties and your tokens should go towards energy for Demon or cards with Razaketh. Plus neither of them are really powerful cards on the face of things, even if you're only saccing a 1/1. I'd take out Start / Finish and Altar's Reap for Fatal Pushes and Grasp of Darkness or Murder. You'll probably have a really difficult time versus aggro otherwise!