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Create two 1/1 white Warrior creature tokens with vigilance.
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
As an additional cost to cast Finish, sacrifice a creature.
Destroy target creature.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Start / Finish Discussion
10 months ago
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11 months ago
Hey, first of all, awesome deck! I’ve always loved tokens and Selesnya, so this is right up my alley.
If you’re looking for some options to optimize it and make it more competitive, I do have some suggestions. Congregate is cool and can certainly turn some games around, but in a lot of matchups it will be a 4 mana sorcery that gains you a bunch of life, but doesn’t stop your opponents infinite combo from killing you next turn. Emmara Tandris strikes me as something similar: an expensive play that has a good chance of being irrelevant when you cast it.
Now, lest it sound like I’m just trashing all over the deck, here’s a bunch of my favorite Green and White tokens cards, in no particular order, you might have fun with. Huatli, Radiant Champion , Hanweir Militia Captain Flip, Wayfaring Temple , Triplicate Spirits , Secure the Wastes , Gideon, Ally of Zendikar .
Hope this helps!!
11 months ago
A quick rundown of the first changes I'd try to implement.
- Start / Finish
- Ministrant of Obligation
- Doomed Traveler
- Not Forgotten
- Lingering Souls
- Diabolic Intent
- Altar's Reap , Bankrupt in Blood , Blood Divination , Costly Plunder
- Severed Strands , Bone Splinters
- Torgaar, Famine Incarnate , Demon of Catastrophes
- Knight of the White Orchid
- Spectral Reserves
- Vessel of Malignity
- Vessel of Ephemera
- Debtors' Knell
- Ethereal Absolution
- Always Watching
- Mindwrack Demon
- I'd go down to singles of all the legendary creatures, if you add Diabolic Intent or Diabolic Tutor
You'll want some way to deal with artifacts and enchantments, possibly Seal of Cleansing in the sideboard.
Also you don't have exile-versions of removal, but white and black are good for it, if you wanted to give up some of the "sacrifice for insane value" plan. Utter End and its variants.
1 year ago
cute. i like sack decks like this. i used to run a infinite combo deck with Ruthless Knave and Anointed Procession, with fodder like Dire Fleet Hoarder, Gleaming Barrier, Martyr of Dusk Start / Finish, Never / Return, Memorial to Glory and Rite of Belzenlok, of course with Pitiless Plunderer as support. It would go into an infinite loop of playing creatures, sacking them for 1000 000 treasures and drawing your entire deck. at the end of your turn youd have like 100 creatures and 100-200 treasures, which you would then use on stuff like Josu Vess, Lich Knight, Marionette Master and Torment of Hailfire. Since you have all your win-cons in your hand, you can play all 3...you can play all your copies of all 3. Real flashy like only sack decks can do hehe. The best part of it was the entire deck cost me 5 tix, sideboard included cause it consisted of all the cards no one ever plays. I feel like sack decks dont get enough love tbh, so good job at making one!
1 year ago
This is a 2-3 card combo. All you need is Anointed Procession and Ruthless Knave for the speedy version, and any of my other treasure cards for the slower version, and you can get a good amount of manna behind Torment of Hailfire. AP itself does the job with most of our other cards, while having Ruthless Knave actually allows you to find a Torment of Hailfire as well. I dont count the sack cards as part of the combo because half my deck consists of those, hence it is incredibly highly unlikely that i wouldnt have any of them(at least ive never had it happen). This isnt the only win-con however, as AP makes Rite of Belzenlok and even Start / Finish incredibly scary. In the side-board we also have Josu Vess, Lich Knight and Revel in Riches, so we dont win just in 1 way, rather 1 win-con goes hand in hand with another, and they all get incredibly buffed by Anointed Procession.
I do agree that the combo you mentioned seems easier, but that is a 4 card combo(4 specific cards, no replacements will do the job), whereas this has fewer cards you actually need to draw into, so though this combo does take 5-10 mins to complete, and is physically draining, its actually easier to pull off than the Pitiless Plunderer+Oathsworn Vampire+Bontu's Monument+Yahenni, Undying Partisan or Defiant Salvager combo, since you only need to find 2 cards as opposed to 4.
24 vigilant 1/1 soldiers by turn 7 ive had, 16 2/2 knights by turn 7 ive had, 2 6/6 flyers and 8 0/1 clerics by turn 7 ive had, and 10 treasures by turn 7 ive had in like half my games. Torment of Hailfire ive cast turn 6 for x6 before with some devastating results, but ive also just straight up won with it. This deck has its weaknesses, for instance if Ruthless Knave and Anointed Procession gets focused down, its incredibly meh as a deck, but all combo decks have this problem.
I also agree that is not as competitive as blue/black control or r/b aggro, but combo decks never are. If you draw the right cards you win every time, if you don't you lose since the rest of your deck simply doesn't have the punch it needs to fight decks that don't combo. It is however, much more fun :)
1 year ago
1 year ago