Creature — Phoenix
Flamewake Phoenix attacks each turn if able.
Ferocious — At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control a creature with power 4 or greater, you may pay . If you do, return Flamewake Phoenix from your graveyard to the battlefield.
|Have (2)||metalmagic , IcyLightning|
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|Fate Reforged (FRF)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Flamewake Phoenix occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.04%
Flamewake Phoenix Discussion
1 week ago
I think in an aggro deck the sheer power of Lightning Skelemental will outweigh the need for survivability that Flamewake Phoenix provides. Maybe just consider it over the Sedraxis Specter then if you are going purely for a red/black mana base and you can keep the phoenix still. Lightning Axe does seem like a solid option for removal and discard fuel. I recommended the 1 CMC spells I did assuming you might want the Dreadhorde Arcanist but if he is not an option then you could easily run something like Cast Down or maybe Angrath's Rampage instead. If you are going red/black then at this point I would also consider cutting Insolent Neonate , Sedraxis Specter and Tasigur, the Golden Fang and just adding some Instants and upping some of your current Sorcery counts from 3 to 4.
1 week ago
Firestalker, I think you made some really good point with the suggestions., and also some real tough considerations.
Honestly, Favorable Winds seems like it's too much. I didn't include it for the memes. I really thought that it would be nice to pump those phoenixes and all the other flyers to hit for massive damage. However, it almost never gets to my hand and when it does, it looks like a dead card for an agrressive deck.
The Lightning Skelemental over Flamewake Phoenix is a difficult one, but don't get me wrong, Lightning Skelemental is an amazing card. The thing is: most of the deck relies on the unearth mechanic and, ironically, the Unearth card. So, most of the cards don't stick until my next turn, espcially in Hell's Thunder 's case, where even when playing it from my hand or reanimating it, it won't surviving by the end of my turn. Flamewake Phoenix can use the Thunder's "power", so to speak, to come in and stay after he dies. At least in my mind, Sedraxis Specter would make a more suitable replacement, as, even tough it would be nice to have a flyer that causes my opponents to discard and a huge trampler that does the same, getting rid of the specter would enable me to cut out blue mana, more on that when I talk about Tasigur, the Golden Fang and Thought Scour .
A 4th Duress and Divest could be placed in the sideboard. Lightning Bolt I'm not so sure, maybe Lightning Axe would be more effective, even tough you've already pointed that I my already have enough discard fuel. Disfigure I'm not so sure about, maybe there's a better option for removal that's also budget. However, I agree that I should have some more interaction with my opponent's board. Vendetta I'll pass, since I don't think the deck race enough to the point that the life loss won't matter.
Now, Dreadhorde Arcanist is a problem. That card would definetly be good in this deck. The issue here is the price. Here in Brazil cards can be rather expensive. You see, while TappedOut says the average TCGplayer price is around $4,69 as of the time I'm writing this comment, here in Brazil it costs R$23,00 minimun, while a full playset would cost R$92,00. Just to give you context, I teach English to a private student of mine and get paid R$280,00 a month. So, the full playset would cost almost a third of what I get paid from my student. It's just not possible for me.
Tasigur, the Golden Fang seems like a card that could be cut out, since I'm already planning on cutting Favorable Winds but I'm not sure I'd replace with Gurmag Angler . Maybe I'd just put 1 Angler to act as a Phoenix enabler and a last resort big body. Maybe Tasigur will get replaced with the Lightning Skelemental and I'll find a way to include other 2 Skellies.
Thought Scour is good but I'll probably leave it on the Maybeboard to experiment with removing all the blue mana and working with a Rakdos manabase.
The manabase will probably just include Smoldering Marsh and Foreboding Ruins since I'll be removing the blue ones, and that should alliviate the pressure of the manabase. Also, as an aggressive deck, cards like Crumbling Necropolis wouldn't help too much.
I think I've talked about everyone one of your suggestions. If I missed anything just say it. Thanks for the attention and time spent to try and help me.
1 week ago
Unearth makes for a cool mechanic. I love the Hell's Thunder and Sedraxis Specter That Unearth card is sweet and can be really strong too! If you really want to abuse Unearth then I would recommend putting in Lightning Skelemental over Flamewake Phoenix since it hits like a truck and can really cripple your opponent. I would also recommend Dreadhorde Arcanist over something like Insolent Neonate since you already have a fair amount of discard fuel and since he can do crazy stuff like recast Unearth from grave on another creature. If you do decide to add Dreadhorde Arcanist then I would also add in more 1 CMC spells he can abuse right off the bat. But whether you add him or not I think this deck would benefit greatly from more interactive cards to use on your opponent's stuff. Some budget friendly options include Lightning Bolt , Vendetta , Disfigure , Divest and maybe a 4th Duress . I would try cutting Ransack the Lab for Thought Scour if you add the Arcanist. I think Tasigur, the Golden Fang is a little too much since his activated ability is double blue and you only have five blue mana to work with based on your lands. And if you just really want the delve and the body then I would instead use Gurmag Angler since it has more attack. Favorable Winds seems a little too much of a meme and more like a gravy card and I think it's slot in the deck could be better used with anything I already mentioned. Lastly, if you want some budget dual lands that strictly do NOT always come into play tapped then I recommend the cycle of recently reprinted "check lands" like Drowned Catacomb and the recently printed other half of the "fast lands" cycle like Spirebluff Canal . If you do not mind having some lands that enter tapped then Crumbling Necropolis is on flavor. Any of the "scry lands" would be good too. I hear those are getting reprinted in the new Theros Beyond Death set though so if you want them for dirt cheap I would wait until the set release. Hope this helps!
1 month ago
The reason for Thing in the Ice Flip is that it's more difficult to remove (black removal will kill it) and is synergistic with the spells strategy. Young Pyro is synergistic, but easier to kill and isn't the same level of threat, particularly if the Royal Scions are on the field. In some ways if you don't have the Things then it might make sense to run two more Crackling Drake and maybe Stormchaser Mage / Flamewake Phoenix or two more Fiery Temper.
6 months ago
I would prioritize having Fiery Temper over Alms of the Vein - if your meta is not overrun by burn, as in most cases the ability to point said spell at creatures & planeswalkers far outweighs the downside of not gaining 3 life.
Speaking of creatures & planeswalkers, since this deck stuffs its gravyard like there is no tomorrow, i would advise running a few (1 or 2) Magmatic Sinkhole s - as additional ways to deal with problem creatures and walkers (walkers are likely going to be even more significan't due to stuff like Wrenn and Six , Karn, the Great Creator , and UW "control" stransforming even more into a superfiends list)
In general this deck severely lacks in discard outlets. Depending on your taste and budget i would advise adding a playset of either Goblin Lore , Cathartic Reunion or Seasoned Pyromancer (the latter also acts as a way to operate if the graveyard is shut down by some enchantment - which is not that unlikely thanks to hoogak even in game 1) MAX OUT ON Hollow One & Flamewake Phoenix THEY ARE THE CORE OF THE STRATEGY - they are good in multiples, while delve creatures do diddle, since you pay you grave empty, and the second copy just orts in hand (not to mention their vulnerability to gravyard hate)
7 months ago
I disagree that Ferocious is not well-liked: it is overrepresented with modern staples: Temur Battle Rage , Stubborn Denial , Flamewake Phoenix (now obsoleted by Arclight Phoenix ) and I've seen Wild Slash in some budget sideboards.
Even if we dismiss the last two examples for being too rare, that means out of 20 total Ferocious cards printed, about 10% of all Ferocious cards are modern staples. Not even Infect can claim that kind of popularity, with arguably 5 cards, out of about 60 ( Inkmoth Nexus Glistener Elf Blighted Agent Viridian Corrupter and Carrion Call in some sideboards with control-heavy meta).
I'll agree that Formidable is not well liked, but only because there haven't been many cards printed with that ability.
9 months ago
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10 months ago
I am wondering if I should replace Street Wraith with Maximize Velocity . The wraith is a dead card a lot of the time. Street Wraith is really good for an explosive start and gets Hollow One out fast. But late game I really just need to get to 4/x to bring out Flamewake Phoenix and its friends.