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Creature — Phoenix
Flamewake Phoenix attacks each turn if able.
Ferocious — At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control a creature with power 4 or greater, you may pay . If you do, return Flamewake Phoenix from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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Flamewake Phoenix Discussion
6 hours ago
Dorotheus thanks for the input! I did consider Tormenting Voice but, due to the cost to cards discarded it seemed a little underpowered (a 1cmc red creature that draws a card then allows you to discard a card would be a good fit). I also considered Bloodghast but, didn't realy want to add nonbasic lands to this deck with all the Blood Moons floating around. I also agree, Chandra, Torch of Defiance may seem like an odd fit into this deck but, she can work well (the possible every turn card draw and extra mana abilities work great in this deck and to top it off, on a curve +1 chandra into a Demigod of Revenge might not be so bad on turn 5 if a land was played each turn, Vengevine is the one this deck would really like to avoid Chandra +1 into). If I may ask, does Flamewake Phoenix graveyard return ability trigger Vengevines graveyard return ability? Would Earthshaker Khenra also trigger Vengevine?
11 hours ago
drop a Hazorets and Earthshaker for the 4th Neonate, 4 Flamewake Phoenix and a Tormenting Voice.
Hazoret is still a good sideboard card.
At some point you could get red fetchlands and Bloodghasts instead of Chandra, who might accidentally exile cards like Demigod and Vengevine.
1 week ago
Went 2-2 with RB Hollow One but had the most bananas play ever!
Lost to Affinity. First time to play Affinity and I had several play errors. Felt winnable. Should have boarded in Grim Lavamancer.
Lost to Eldrazi Tron. Bad draws. Certainly winnable.
Beat Ponza. He hit BBE into Molten Rain which was super hot but I got the last laugh. Literally. Game 3 I mulligan to 5. I kept a no lander. Turn 1 Street Wraith into land, play land, tap and play Burning Inquiry. Two Hollow One hit the board and one Flamewake Phoenix in the Graveyard. Turn 2 swing for 10! We laughed, he scooped. Good game.
Game 4 was a bye but playing this deck is always fun!
2 weeks ago
Ive been running some boros lately and Ive found Anger of the Gods>Wrath of God>Sweltering Suns works for me. Wrath and anger are pretty much on par but against recursion like Bloodghast,Flamewake Phoenix and even The Scarab God the anger is really handy.
In a deck with lightning bolt I go anger.
on Big Knucks
2 weeks ago
Pull a Tireless Tracker and both Courser of Kruphix. Replace with 2x Mantis Rider and 1x Boon Satyr (it turns on Rhonas and ups the Goyf count). Remove 2x Chandra, Torch of Defiance and replace with either 2x Elspeth, Knight-Errant or Ajani, Caller of the Pride. Wild Nacatl needs more Plains or to be removed entirely. If you remove it, possibly even Goblin Guide should be in its place. Either that, or Flamewake Phoenix. I can't imagine that Birds of Paradise is better than Noble Hierarch. I think a 4-1 split of Noble to Birds is good. Prowling Serpopard is legit bad and should be replaced with Ancient Grudge or something.
Also, remove basic mountain because it's horrible.
1 month ago
APPLE01DOJ - I don't know. Yesterday, I could have written you an essay; today, I'm facing down Jace, the Mind Sculptor. I know nothing until further testing. I have rushed to bring back two copies of Liliana of the Veil to the list since the unbans, a card I had eschewed very quickly in my original construction of the deck, since it hardly favours the player drawing an extra card a turn; however, with the advent of Bloodbraid Elf and Jace TMS, opponents are now likely to be able to keep up with the CA of Phyrexian Arena, and as such, Liliana of the Veil is likely to be good again (even if the format is being overrun by lots of Bloodghast, Hollow One, and Faithless Looting).
However, I can offer a breakdown of how the creatures function in non-blue matchups:
a. Pack Rat:
The deck started with the set of Pack Rat. But that all in-strategy was soon found to be suboptimal - drawing multiple Pack Rats was unnecessary and rarely served any purpose; not to mention the speed of Modern means turn 2 Pack Rat is often too slow. As sweepers, Detention Sphere, and Maelstrom Pulse became common, and as Hollow One and Death's Shadow and Tasigur, the Golden Fang started to surface, Pack Rat lost some of its luster.
The natural question, then, if Pack Rat is slow and vulnerable, why play him at all? The answer: Pack Rat is ten cards in one card. Backed up with any kind of disruption and removal, he takes over the board and ends the game, quickly and unstoppably. Two activations are more than enough to put away games, and trading spot removal for Rats is a losing proposition. So in this list, he's gone from being a windmill early slam, to a lategame engine that turns dead land drops and discard spells into an army of creatures. Barring Path to Exile before a single activation is possible, Liliana, the Last Hope can always buy him back - one copy of the Rat, therefore, is ample.
I've covered the virtues of this card in a post above - essentially, he's my Tarmogoyf, but he flies. Whether he functions as The Abyss or as a 6/6 unblockable, he ends games very quickly, and many a game against combo/Tron has been put away by disruption into disruption into Demon. Of the quick clocks available to black, he's one of the better ones. I believe the added utility to be well worth the extra two mana over Goyf (besides, far be it from me to argue against 6 6 fliers for four - speaking of which, Demon is almost always a strictly superior option to Abyssal Persecutor, since Persecutor requiring us to find an additional kill spell for our own demon while Phyrexian Arena ticks down/the burn opponent is topdecking is not a good feeling).
I cannot praise this card enough in any mono black midrange list. He exiles creatures, he gains life consistently, and he makes every removal spell in our deck a 2 for 1. Traditionally, efficient mono black removal has been weak to graveyard recursion such as Flamewake Phoenix, Bloodghast, Geralf's Messenger, Kitchen Finks, and so forth, since all these cards must be killed more than once, at no additional expense to the opponent. Thoughtseize and Phyrexian Arena is a painful combination, especially in a world of Lightning Bolt and Kolaghan's Command. Kalitas solves all of these issues beautifully, and with any removal spell stalls the board incredibly easily and well.
Okay, have you seen the art? If Drana were real, she'd totally be my Valentine.
Jokes aside, one of the issues I was frequently running into with the deck was the amount of time it took me to close out once I had stabilised. While all of my creature threats (Gray Merchant of Asphodel is basically a Corrupt, he doesn't count) end the game quite quickly, I just wasn't drawing them fast enough - my opponent would get the opportunity to find that Cryptic Command or Sphinx's Revelation, or get those last 2 Boros Charm. There is a delicate balance between disruption and pressure that must be maintained in all decks that are not pure control, and maintaining that balance required me to find another fast game-ending threat.
I considered running the fourth Desecration Demon, but the idea of another big dumb beater was not appealing. I wanted a powerful threat with intrinsic value attached to its kit, that could help deal with the board even when I was not drawing multiple cards a turn, and hopefully one that was either resilient, or dodged some of the common removal in the format (Lightning Bolt, Abrupt Decay, Fatal Push - although I was open to playing four drops, since consistently having revolt to deal with a whole myriad of four drop threats is difficult). While black has plenty of value three drops, none of them offered this game ending power, or were too easily killed - Nightveil Specter and Lifebane Zombie, for instance, offer great card advantage in specific situations, but don't really pack the same punch as something like a Desecration Demon or Pack Rat army.
Finally, I settled on Drana. There are a lot of powerful five drops in black with value built in (Bloodgift Demon, for instance), but Drana does something none of the others do - she kills things, turn after turn, while being able to attack in the air for huge chunks. In a meta with Lingering Souls, Dark Confidant and Young Pyromancer, Drana seemed like an elegant solution, and so far, she has far exceeded my expectations. I do not think I should consider running multiples of her, since she is quite expensive and can be killed for no value the turn she comes into play, but untapping with her can feel a bit like untapping after a Supreme Verdict to an empty board.
No Geralf's Messenger, no Phyrexian Obliterator; only 2 Gray Merchant. I do not believe the all in devotion plan is likely to ever become Modern competitive, for sheer want of interactive capability and card advantage - if you are playing a midrange list in Modern, you need lots of early interaction in the form of hand disruption and removal, a proactive plan to end the game with efficient threats, and ways to pull ahead on cards after both players have been stripped down to limited resources. Gray Merchant is an extremely powerful card, as good as or better than Siege Rhino if it drains for upwards of five; it swings races, it ends games, it doesn't care about board stalls, and for all intents and purposes is basically a Modern legal Tendrils of Corruption (not my quote - blame LSV. Then again, that man also calls Disciple of Phenax Mind Twist, so take these statements with several grains of salt).
But despite his inherent power level, Gray Merchant of Asphodel is a very high variance card, and can sometimes be Highway Robber. Removal in Modern is aplenty, and curving out into enough devotion for Gray Merchant to be good is not a reliable plan. Even when the traditional mono black lists do manage to implement their plan - Geralf's Messenger into Gray Merchant, for instance, after having gotten two or more of their creatures removed, despite being an overall drain for seven to nine, just lacks the power/speed to push through opposing Tarmogoyf, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Grim Flayer, Death's Shadow - not to mention blue decks with their Cryptic Command and board sweepers and Sphinx's Revelation.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel in my list is therefore a card I'll often be discarding to the various discard outlets in the early game; using either the second copy or Liliana, the Last Hope's minus two to drain the opponent out if necessary later on. His being a zombie means he can be sacrificed to Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet either to simply grow the great vampire, or to be recursed with Liliana, as the situation calls.
I do not think running more than two of the card is likely to be feasible for Modern given the uncertainty of whether Merchant will be Corrupt or Highway Robber, and also given Merchant's relatively high mana cost; while it is possible that one is the correct number (and indeed, often in post board games, I do go down to one or no Merchant) at least in game 1, the proactive plan of discard, kill, kill, flier, smack, Merchant win is a very strong one. Having access to the second copy in case the first gets exiled and therefore cannot be returned with a future Liliana is also quite relevant against decks with Path to Exile and Pyxis of Pandemonium.
Despite Merchant's variance, I believe his power level and his ability to end the game on the spot through cards like Ensnaring Bridge and Witchbane Orb is not to be undervalued. In a deck with Phyrexian Arena and Ob Nixilis Reignited, every life point represents an extra card; while Highway Robber may be terrible, a five mana 2 4 that draws 4 cards on etb and drains the opponent for four is an absolutely phenomenal Magic card.
I would also like to point out the maindeck inclusion of incidental lifegain like Collective Brutality and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet in conjunction with Gary makes most burn and aggro matchups extremely favourable.
While the creature suite has been carefully picked, and is constantly being chosen and rechosen and tweaked, the engine that enables this deck is Phyrexian Arena. Any interactive deck with reactive spells always runs the risk of its reactive measures not lining up well against the threats being deployed on the other side; Arena churning through the deck presents the critical mass of answers and threats to overwhelm the opponent, ensures land drops are made, and essentially in every regard dots the deck's i's and crosses its t's. With discard outlets like Collective Brutality and Liliana of the Veil to trade potentially dead cards for relevant spells early on, irksome draws with too many high cmc cards can still function smoothly and well.
1 month ago
I dislike the Hollow One decks but only because of Goblin Lore being the card that makes everything far too random. I'd cut the Lores, Cryptics, and move 1 Brutality to the sideboard, and then add 2 more Shadows, some copies of Stubborn Denial and Flamewake Phoenix.
Dropping 1 Snapcaster Mage won't hurt if you have to, but since you are using snaps you could play random 1 ofs like Dreadbore, Kolaghan's Command, or Vapor Snag to use as a "toolbox" when needed. Just thoughts.
1 month ago
Wow that was much longer than intended. I just came here browsing other ferocious decks with Rhonas. I use Thrun (wouldn't recommend for yours), but your trio of Rhonas, Flamewake Phoenix, and Soulflayer all work together great! You can even pump Phoenix with Rhonas to animate himself, even if they kill Phoenix every turn.
You can check out mine though it's just a Rhonas deck:
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