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Creature — Phoenix
Flamewake Phoenix attacks each turn if able.
Ferocious — At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control a creature with power 4 or greater, you may pay . If you do, return Flamewake Phoenix from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Flamewake Phoenix Discussion
4 weeks ago
I would prioritize having Fiery Temper over Alms of the Vein - if your meta is not overrun by burn, as in most cases the ability to point said spell at creatures & planeswalkers far outweighs the downside of not gaining 3 life.
Speaking of creatures & planeswalkers, since this deck stuffs its gravyard like there is no tomorrow, i would advise running a few (1 or 2) Magmatic Sinkhole s - as additional ways to deal with problem creatures and walkers (walkers are likely going to be even more significan't due to stuff like Wrenn and Six , Karn, the Great Creator , and UW "control" stransforming even more into a superfiends list)
In general this deck severely lacks in discard outlets. Depending on your taste and budget i would advise adding a playset of either Goblin Lore , Cathartic Reunion or Seasoned Pyromancer (the latter also acts as a way to operate if the graveyard is shut down by some enchantment - which is not that unlikely thanks to hoogak even in game 1) MAX OUT ON Hollow One & Flamewake Phoenix THEY ARE THE CORE OF THE STRATEGY - they are good in multiples, while delve creatures do diddle, since you pay you grave empty, and the second copy just orts in hand (not to mention their vulnerability to gravyard hate)
1 month ago
I disagree that Ferocious is not well-liked: it is overrepresented with modern staples: Temur Battle Rage , Stubborn Denial , Flamewake Phoenix (now obsoleted by Arclight Phoenix ) and I've seen Wild Slash in some budget sideboards.
Even if we dismiss the last two examples for being too rare, that means out of 20 total Ferocious cards printed, about 10% of all Ferocious cards are modern staples. Not even Infect can claim that kind of popularity, with arguably 5 cards, out of about 60 ( Inkmoth Nexus Glistener Elf Blighted Agent Viridian Corrupter and Carrion Call in some sideboards with control-heavy meta).
I'll agree that Formidable is not well liked, but only because there haven't been many cards printed with that ability.
3 months ago
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4 months ago
I am wondering if I should replace Street Wraith with Maximize Velocity . The wraith is a dead card a lot of the time. Street Wraith is really good for an explosive start and gets Hollow One out fast. But late game I really just need to get to 4/x to bring out Flamewake Phoenix and its friends.
6 months ago
This looks loads of fun, but you might be playing it at the wrong time. It's almost guaranteed that your opponent has graveyard hate, given decks which use; Stinkweed Imp , Bloodghast , Living End , Vengevine , Hooting Mandrills , Arclight Phoenix , Flamewake Phoenix , Bedlam Reveler , Striped Riverwinder and more all exist.
Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void are the big hate cards, but Nihil Spellbomb , Relic of Progenitus , Tormod's Crypt or Ravenous Trap are all options people use too. Basically the graveyard is being hated on...
You might be better playing like the spirits aggro list with; Supreme Phantom Selfless Spirit and Spell Queller and switch to the Mortal Combat / Iname, Death Aspect plan from the sideboard, if you did that I'd also stick Nether Traitor in for either, free hits or removal bait. On its own Nether Traitor won't warrant the grave hate so hopefully your opponent sides it out. Hope this helps, good luck brewing your deck.
6 months ago
I'd suggest Magus of the Bazaar over Jace's Archivist, it's unusual to see this sort of deck without some form of recurring creature, you could use Flamewake Phoenix or Haunted Dead, which also doubles as a discard outlet. Another possibility is cards like Reforge the Soul and Wheel of Fate which force both players to discard and draw, though this isn't without risks since a lot of modern decks leverage the graveyard.
Hope this is of some help, have fun brewing your deck.
7 months ago
Another possible one is Flamewake Phoenix.
Are you going for a typical heavy burn deck? Perhaps using Grapeshot?
7 months ago
Thanks for the comment Spazik008
I was toying with Nullhide Ferox or even Carnage Tyrant but that just was a bit much. Thrun, the Last Troll is there for U/W Control match-ups. They typically have enough mana to pay and path Nullhide Ferox or just outright counter it. Plus the "I can't play 2/3 of my deck" doesn't seem good enough. I see where it could be good against discard decks but I think I'd prefer Obstinate Baloth there for the life gain. Nullhide Ferox just dies the turn after it comes in. I think it would be OK against Hollow One because they have very limited removal for it. They could also just chump it with Flamewake Phoenix though. That's what made me consider Carnage Tyrant but that doesn't have the discard-proof portion of Nullhide Ferox. It's an awkward slot because Thrun, the Last Troll doesn't do anything against Hollow one or discard (outside of regenerate at least).
As for Nihil Spellbomb v Grafdigger's Cage; I think it does better against dredge/KCI because it gets rid of the cards they can return to hand which Grafdigger's Cage doesn't. Grafdigger's Cage is best against Kitchen Finks and Vizier of Remedies decks, which aren't really a part of the meta right now. I guess it's good against Bant Spirits decks but I'll take my chances with Thoughtseize.
Flamewake Phoenix occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.04%