Plea for Power
Will of the council — Starting with you, each player votes for time or knowledge. If time gets more votes, take an extra turn after this one. If knowledge gets more votes or the vote is tied, draw three cards.
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Plea for Power Discussion
3 months ago
Drop Faerie Tauntings , Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , Traumatize , Trepanation Blade , add about one or two more ramp and two more card-draw at least. I almost always run 8 pieces of ramp and the prevailing wisdom is 10. Same for card-draw: I aim for 8, many aim for 10. Extra ramp is great with Oona's ability and card-draw can draw you into lands and just generally smooth everything out.
Reconnaissance Mission would be good. Treasure Cruise is often almost an Ancestral Recall and is budget too. Even though you're running Blue , Read the Bones is a great rate, as is Night's Whisper . Divination , Concentrate , and Tidings are all great on a budget, if a bit unexciting.
I love Keep Watch , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Theft of Dreams , Insight , Windfall , Plea for Power , Curse of Verbosity , and Manifold Insights but they are swingy. High ceilings, low floors. The mana cost on them is what makes them so good.
Midnight Clock is budget right now but it's starting to make waves. Get yours now while they're cheap. Ramp AND draw! Great on a budget.
Secrets of the Golden City and Kumena's Awakening should usually be City's Blessing-ed. I like Kimena's a lot on a budget (along with Patient Rebuilding ). Rush of Knowledge is decent if you have Oona out. Fathom Trawl is a guaranteed three non-lands, though it might be a bit lackluster with so many faeries. Not a bad card though. Mind Spring is great with ramp.
Drawn from Dreams and Dig Through Time are probably better than Diabolic Tutor until you have a game-winning card in the deck like Coat of Arms or some combo pieces (of which all are out-of-budget). I'd say drop Diabolic Tutor . Diabolic Vision is all right on a budget, as is Pilfered Plans , Forbidden Alchemy , and Notion Rain . We can probably do better, even on a tight budget.
With all your fliers, Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory are fantastic card-draw cards. Mask of Riddles is cute. Curiosity and Curious Obsession are decent but dangerous. Chart a Course is decent with fliers. Whispering Madness can be good with fliers too.
I have mixed feelings about Opt , Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand , Ponder , Preordain , Portent . They certainly don't hurt but they're bad late-game. I run them in some decks. Consider them if most of your card-draw is expensive. Brainstorm is a bit of a trap unless you have ways to shuffle your library and get rig of unwanted cards. This usually requires fetch lands like Polluted Delta and is better in 60-card formats.
Rain of Revelation , Archmage's Charm , Fact or Fiction , Succumb to Temptation , Precognitive Perception , Frantic Search , Pull from Tomorrow , Gush , Village Rites are all good for being instants so you can leave counterspells up and if you don't need them you can draw. That's one of the reasons a card like Anticipate looks weak but is nice for keeping counterspells open. Fact or Fiction is particularly good and is considered a staple in many formats, including EDH.
I would swap out Dimir Locket and Dimir Cluestone for Mind Stone and Prismatic Lens . Maybe Star Compass if it is in budget. I know you need your colors but 3-mana mana rocks that don't have huge upside are sooooo slow. Arcane Signet is probably out of budget, which is too bad. Is Wayfarer's Bauble still expensive? Probably. Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive maybe? Oona isn't cheap and you want mana for her ability if push comes to shove. Trinket Mage is ramp because it can snag Sol Ring , making it the same rate as Explosive Vegetation and Hedron Archive .
10 months ago
Thoughts on these? Silence, Archaeomancer, Savor the Moment, Plea for Power, Lich's Mirror, Tidal Barracuda, Vampiric Tutor, Lotus Petal, Vanishment, Cloud of Faeries, Decree of Silence, Coveted Jewel, Oubliette (see double masters errata; can now phase out opp's general indefinitely), Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, God-Pharaoh's Statue, Mandate of Peace (ask during opps' upkeep for them to let you know when they are going to combat. They will likely go straight to combat before casting things, allowing you to play this most effectively)
1 year ago
1 year ago
I whipped up a copy of this deck with the cards sorted into categories so I could see what you had going on, and here's what I found:
You have 20 ramp spells and 20 draw spells, probably about twice what you need of each. I'd start by narrowing those down.
You have three cards that deal with +1/+1 counters. I'd replace Doubling Season with Parallel Lives, knowing that. I know it doesn't reduce the amount of cards, but it's 1 mana cheaper and will be equally as effective except in those three circumstances.
You only have two mill cards, so you're not going to be winning with that strategy in 99% of games. I'd take them both out. Startled Awake Flip is a great card especially when you can copy it, but you know what another great sorcery to copy is? Every other one in the deck, and those ones also contribute to you winning. The same is true for Telemin Performance. Yes, it'll steal a creature from your opponent, but you have other ways of doing that, that allow you to choose the permanent you're stealing.
Of your nine extra turn spells, the weakest is definitely Plea for Power. It may be cheaper than the others, but that's at the cost of allowing your opponents to give you the worst choice between card draw and an extra turn. Both options are good, but one will always be less good, and your opponents will always choose that one.
Speaking of letting your opponents choose, Pir's Whim does that too. Unless your opponent has exactly one artifact or enchantment, they won't choose to sacrifice the one that's causing you the most trouble. The added benefit of it allowing you to ramp isn't that great compared to the other ramp spells at your disposal.
I know this won't get you all the way down to 100 cards, but hopefully you'll be able to take a look at the categories I made or make your own and glean some helpful insights from them.
1 year ago
No worries dude. Always happy to help a fellow spellslinger. From the looks of it, I would probably drop Ignite Memories for Finale of Promise, Nightscape Familiar for Lightning Greaves, and Plea for Power for Past in Flames.
For Ignite Memories, it seems a little high in the CMC to potentially whiff as a result of. Even with heavy mana rituals, for the same price you could get two spells out of your yard with Finale of Promise and potentially get more bang for your buck depending on how deep into your storm you are.
I'm all for redundancy, but you have a few general cost reducers already and, despite high CMCs on the tail end of your curve, you can probably cut Nightscape Familiar safely without really noticing a stutter in your plays. The greaves would ultimately serve you better, I think. If they're rightfully hating your graveyard access, you want to make sure you can keep that door open.
Lastly, Plea for Power is a meta call. If your group is a little more generous with giving out turns, it could benefit you quite a bit. But, on average for me that would read "3U: Draw 3 cards" which you can accomplish fairly easily with other spells for less. Past in Flames is great when your yard is stocked with cheap cantrips and draw, or even a huge finisher you want to dump your mana into. I imagine Mana Geyser works spectacularly at a huge table with the right timing, so you can easily take a chunk out of your opponents with Jaya's Immolating Inferno and your other damaging spells.
With Theros Beyond Death out now, two cards I got super excited for were Underworld Breach and Thassa's Oracle. Oracle works as a way better labman because it's harder to stop once it resolves if you manage to exile/draw your entire library. She put my backup wincon of Demonic Consultation over the edge with her ETB. As for Underworld, that card gets such value in a graveyard deck it's insane. 2 mana for what's essentially a discount Yawg Will had me so hyped when I saw it for the first time. Just by exiling lands or dead cards from your graveyard you can cast and recast more effective spells. The plus side to them is that they don't exile after casting, either. If you've got a fat yard with a lot of dead weight in it, you can pretty much cast the same high-value spell over and over again to build a ridiculous storm count. Personally, I'd recast something like dark/cabal ritual 3 or 4 times and then hit everyone with a giant exsanguinate. I can't recommend Underworld Breach enough. I'd even recommend it over Past in Flames if you think you can get a big enough yard to abuse it.
Gushing over specific cards aside, I hope this helped tune your deck a little better and that you get to kick some ass at your next game. Gotta represent the best commander after all.
1 year ago
Into the Story - Can suck early game and grave hate or shuffling wheels exacerbate this. My version of baral plays lots of time spiral effects. But this does intrigue me
Vex - We can do better
Estrid's Invocation - Why?
Marit Lage's Slumber - Too slow and unimpactful
Bond of Insight - Better recursion, fuels graveyard decks, but is interesting
Mass Manipulation - Too expensive
Plea for Power - I have a love hate relationship with this card. But it's always hurt me more than it's helped.
Murmuring Mystic - Worse talrand is not needed
Elixir of Immortality - No purpose?
Let me know if you want some ideas for stuff to add
1 year ago
I know you're looking for non-wheel card draw. I don't love cantrips in EDH unless there is a number-of-spells-matters effect in play but they can smooth out a deck a bit. Ponder , Preordain , Portent , Sleight of Hand , Serum Visions , etc. The sweet spot in around 3-5 CMC for me, ideally drawing CMC -1 but there aren't a ton of spells that efficient. I don't love Divination in EDH (2 for 3) but it's the gold-standard in 60-card decks for a quickie hand refill. There are tons of efficient cards like Divination too.
There are a ton of "draw 3, discard 1" for 4 or 5 mana, which are okay. Sift , Trial of Knowledge , and Amass the Components , for example. Many are costed for being commons, which isn't where you wanna be in EDH. There should be plenty of good, efficient cards to draw from though. At the same time, you have a lot of great high-CMC draw, like Consecrated Sphinx and Thought Reflection, so having a few Divination effects might smooth out your draws.
Some suggestions: Concentrate , Windfall , Cathartic Reunion , Plea for Power , Tidings , Nin, the Pain Artist , Finale of Revelation , Mind Spring , Braingeyser , Stroke of Genius , Blue Sun's Zenith , Fact or Fiction , Chart a Course , Ugin's Insight , Treasure Cruise , Dig Through Time , Kumena's Awakening , Fevered Visions , Honden of Seeing Winds , Reverse Engineer , Read the Runes , Precognitive Perception , Distant Memories , Arcane Encyclopedia , Endless Atlas , Trail of Evidence , Theft of Dreams , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Kefnet the Mindful , Cavalier of Gales , Combustible Gearhulk , Thassa, God of the Sea , Shared Discovery , Secrets of the Golden City , Vivisection , Weight of Memory , Recurring Insight , Breakthrough , Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Deep Analysis , Gush , Invoke the Firemind , Expansion / Explosion , Chandra, Flamecaller , Dragon Mage , Wild Guess , Tormenting Voice , Arch of Orazca , Runehorn Hellkite , Conqueror's Galleon Flip, Kraum, Ludevic's Opus , Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist , Commune with Lava .
1 year ago
I love it. I might borrow a few ideas from ya. Akroma, Angel of Fury is just awesome. I wish I could get away with running Omniscience . Plea for Power is another one that I am interested in because either option is good. Awesome build!