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Each player discards his or her hand, then draws cards equal to the greatest number of cards a player discarded in this way.
Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.)
Whispering Madness Discussion
1 week ago
1 week ago
Going the pain wheel route is how to best utilize your commanders ability. He goes from a fair Howling Mine to a must answer threat. Wheel of Fortune , Windfall , and Whispering Madness are where you want to be; couple those with Narset, Parter of Veils and you have a soft lock that puts you far ahead and allows you to slow grind everyone to dust.
3 weeks ago
I am not sure if you actually want to make this competitive or if you were just mentioning that the competitive gauge is silly. I am just going to yeet in assuming the former.
First thing I would do is scrap everything 5 cmc or greater that doesn't almost immediately win me the game. I would cut your creature count by about half if not more. Lastly for cuts, I would put at the very most 33 lands in here (i.e. cut 7 and add in mana rocks like Dimir Signet , Fellwar Stone , and Talisman of Dominance )
As a mill deck, you will want to shut off your opponent's access to their graveyards. Planar Void is my fav for lazav, but Grafdigger's Cage , Nihil Spellbomb , Relic of Progenitus , and Silent Gravestone all really do the trick.
Your counterspell package should probably drop all of the ones greater than 2 cmc and add in Swan Song , Delay , Flusterstorm , Pact of Negation , Mana Drain , Mana Leak , Mental Misstep , Muddle the Mixture , Tale's End , Force of Will .
Tutors and draw are very quick ways to make an okay deck much better. For draw you can have necropotence, Mystic Remora , Rhystic Study , Consecrated Sphinx , Brainstorm , Search for Azcanta Flip, Dark Deal , Wheel and Deal , Whispering Madness , and Windfall . The wheel effects are particularly nice because they bring down your opponent's deck size as well. For tutors ya get Demonic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Imperial Seal , Mystical Tutor , Fabricate , Intuition , Merchant Scroll , Whir of Invention .
I would add in artifacts and enchantments that slow your opponents to a point that they can't do much and your counterspells can really devastate them. Null Rod , Cursed Totem , Winter Orb , Static Orb , Trinisphere , Back to Basics , Pithing Needle , Sorcerous Spyglass , Torpor Orb , Nether Void
I hope even if you don't go quite in this direction that this gives you a glimpse into a spikier mindset and can give you some ideas for this and future decks. Cheers!
2 months ago
if you run Invisible Stalker run Whispering Madness with it. and either megrim or lilians's caress and Dark Ritual . turn 1 play an island. turn 2 play a swamp and play dark ritual. giving you 1 blue and 3 black mana. play invisible stalker, and liliana's caress. turn 3 whatever. turn 4 as long as you have 4 lands, play whispering madness and forces hand discard and re-draw. for both sides. (if you go first opponent should still have 4-5 cards in hand) forcing them to discard all 4-5, and taking 10 damage from whispering madness and liliana's caress. cipher to invisible stalker and attack, causing whispering madness to be cast again and lose another 10 life from the discard mechanic of liliana's caress a second time. and usually a win by then. invisible stalker alone on turn 3 should make up for possible discard damage losses if they have 4 or less cards on turn 4, by attacking on turn 3.
3 months ago
Not the author of the primer, but I’d recommend you replace Timetwister with one of the above wheel effects JMan has listed ( Whispering Madness or Winds of Change ). As for the OG Duals, I replaced them with the two missing Painlands to good effect since I don’t have all the fetchlands. If you intend on running all of them, however, adding a Mountain, Snow-Covered Mountain and Snow-Covered Swamp may be a good idea so that your fetches don’t become duds too soon.
3 months ago
This is a classic Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar deck. The ultimate goal is to have one of the following: Zulaport Cutthroat , Wayward Servant , Plague Belcher , Diregraf Captain , Corpse Knight ; alongside the Gravecrawler constantly going back and forth.
There are some cards that allow this combo without Phyrexian Altar . Mikaeus, the Unhallowed can combo with Putrid Goblin . Both can also double sacrifice effects if they are alone for value without combo- ing off. Rooftop Storm can replace Phyrexian Altar or unlock Relentless Dead to replace Gravecrawler .
With a commander like Varina, Lich Queen , with a strong Draw/discard effect, we need cards to discard. Cards that can make incredible value for Windfall + Whispering Madness + Memory Jar while refilling our hand and filling the graveyard. From Under the Floorboards , Waste Not (for opponents), Reanimate , Stitch Together .
3 months ago
...I can't believe I didn't have C-Rift in here.
4 months ago
I made some tweaks to the deck, cutting some high cmc cards, making it faster. I am curious how Whispering Madness will function in this build; card draw and a 'mill' effect in one card.
Let me know if you spot possible deck upgrades. Feedback is always appreciated!
Whispering Madness occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
UBR (Grixis): 0.6%