Each player discards his or her hand, then draws cards equal to the greatest number of cards a player discarded in this way.
Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.)
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Whispering Madness Discussion
1 week ago
jaymc1130 while I certainly saw how busted Breacher and Oppo Agent were and wanted a ban. I didn't expect Breacher's popularity in non-cEDH tables. In hindsight the accessibility of cards like Windfall , Whispering Madness , Reforge the Soul , and staple casual commanders like Nekusar just make me feel dumb to not see this being banned.
4 weeks ago
Yeah, triggered abilities don't start with "if." A triggered ability will always start by referring to a time (at the beginning of, whenever, when, etc.). Replacement effects usually start with "if" and instead of triggering for an effect, they modify the event they're referring to. You win the game while Whispering Madness is resolving; there's no need to wait for a trigger.
4 weeks ago
I have a Laboratory Maniac on the field, 30 something cards in hand, about 10 left in library, however I am only on 1 life.
My opponent has a Psychosis Crawler on the field.
I cast a Whispering Madness
So I go to draw way more than the cards I have remaining in my diary, which would cause Laboratory Maniac to trigger, winning me the game. However at the same time Psychosis Crawler triggers, dealing more than enough damage to kill me.
What would be the outcome? Is there a stack interaction I'm just not seeing? Is it a draw?
My argument was that it would be a draw, as the cards are all drawn simultaneously, putting me on -30 something life, but simultaneously triggering lab man's win con. My opponent argued that the cards were drawn one-by-one, which would mean that I would hit 0 life before the lab man was triggered.
It hurt my brain trying to write that, I hope I made sense!
1 month ago
2 months ago
After adding some mass removal to my cycle of budget tribal decks, I playtested them all against each other, and this deck came out on top! The game was a little funky as the only two creatures with infect out of 500 cards managed to come out early in the game, thereby threatening very quick finishes if "players" didn't figure out how to defend against these threats. I had players treat the Dragon Reanimator deck with respect, knowing they'd be taken out instantly if they drew its ire. The Knights & Equipment deck was up to its usual shenanigans, and a recently played Knights' Charge threatened to pour eight knights onto the battlefield from the graveyard. After aiming its Blighted Agent at the Cats Voltron deck, this deck figured it was the one selected by the Stalking Leonin , so it struck a loose alliance with the cats. The two decks started slapping other decks with 5 poison counters. Meanwhile, the Elementals Toolbox deck was kind of just lurking, benefiting from all the milling and forced card draw to amass dozens of counters on Hoofprints of the Stag . I suspect that had the game gone on longer, this deck would have emerged as the winner.
However, the game did not go on any longer. Nobody did anything about this deck's Grand Architect , and--with an encoded Whispering Madness drawing five or six cards every turn--this deck eventually drew its Pili-Pala . It just so happened to draw Folio of Fancies that same turn, so with its infinite mana it was able to draw its entire deck (though everyone else got to do the same). It could have stopped there and just had everyone lose to decking, but a Perplexing Test returned all creatures to hand just in case there were some shenanigans that could happen before each player's draw step (there weren't).
The board state in this game was still complex, but it never seemed stalled. The mass removal I added to these decks seemed to help. Although there were no outright board wipes, Path of Mettle Flip and Hurricane were both 3-for-1s that trimmed the creature count by 25 percent, and Perplexing Test was decent insurance for this deck's win condition. (By the way, this game ended on the seventh turn, which is quite good for these budget decks!)
3 months ago
Ponder might not be a bad idea and I have a few of them, Gitaxian Probe is also decent for knowing when to save a counter spell and I think I have one of those as well. Three Wishes is a really interesting card that I think would be a lot more fun in commander; I have a couple. Frantic Search might also be decent if you don't like what's in your hand. Cyclonic Rift is also really good and despite it being expensive I'm pretty sure we own one. Talrand, Sky Summoner is also a classic for this kind of deck, and there's also Murmuring Mystic . One of my favs that I think would work really well is The Locust God . Jace's Archivist is really interesting as well and can help you if you're top decking and hurt everyone else, another great option for the same thing is Whispering Madness . Torrential Gearhulk might be slightly pricey but he matches well with what you're doing. Lim-Dul's Vault is also super handy and can be pretty zaney especially for it being cheap. Disallow is pretty crazy too for blocking activated abilities. Bolas's Citadel is also worth looking at. Cursed Totem is really expensive but would also be CRAZY in this deck. Also check out Propaganda .
As far as removal goes, Go for the Throat is always a good option.There's also Slaughter Pact and Force of Despair . Preemptive removal like Sadistic Sacrament would be a great idea as well. Decree of Pain is good but it's mana cost is kind of high; Life's Finale is an equally viable card. Unsommon is super cheap, Boomerang , Undo , Snap , do more or less the same thing.
4 months ago
Hey, TheoryCrafter, thanks for the comment! First and foremost, I must say that, due to the pandemic, I got very little chance to hang out with my friends to play EDH with, BUT I've continued to follow releases and sets regardless. I came up with an extended update list that I wish I'll be able to share on here too as soon as possible. With this in mind, I'll go onto your comment. I tried to check your deck, but it seems to be private: let me know where to find it and I'll gladly check it out!
Regarding adding cards that give me value when my opponents discard, I tried to avoid them due to the fact that in my pod there is already a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder wheel/discard deck, so I tried to now follow the same path. Regardless, I have thought about introducing cards like Windfall and Whispering Madness as incremental advantage, but even then, I probably won't include cards like Liliana's Caress .
Graveyard exile effects like Planar Void / Leyline of the Void really mess up my gameplan, since the deck's main wincon relies on using all possible X/X creatures like Consuming Aberration that count cards or creatures in opponent's graveyards (see this deck's description section "The Big Bois"): if graveyards are empty, those creatures won't mill at all. In order to contrast graveyard decks, such that I can mill them without helping them out, I instead included (or will include) cards like Grafdigger's Cage , Weathered Runestone and Silent Gravestone : in this way, graveyards can be full, but nobody will be able to take advantage of it, apart from me.
Evasion is a mild subtheme I will try to add, but instead of Aqueous Form , I was thinking of something more enduring like Thassa, God of the Sea or Dauthi Embrace . It's a good idea, sometimes I face decks with cards that reshuffle graveyards, so being able to knock them out in another way is a good option to have.
As for Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab , I don't really think they mill enough to be relevant during the course of the game, so I left them out. Moreover, I don't run enough fetch-like lands as of now, so I won't really get such an advantage from running those two anyways.
In the update list I mentioned at the start, Fleet Swallower will get swapped out for Maddening Cacophony : it's a good card, can be cats a turn earlier with respect to Swallower and doesn't need haste. The combos are the same as before, so that's a good funcitonal update.
As for tutors, my playgroup banned them. If I were to run some, I would run many other mana-cheaper tutors like Grim Tutor . Regarding commander rules, I have to tell you that, unfortunately, wish effects like the second choice of Mastermind's Acquisition don't work: this is due to the fact that "from outside of the game" really means "from your Sideboard", but in EDH there is no Sideboard. I know, no fun allowed, at least according to WotC.
I'll go onto update the description of this page once I'll get all the new cards I need.
4 months ago
Drop Faerie Tauntings , Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , Traumatize , Trepanation Blade , add about one or two more ramp and two more card-draw at least. I almost always run 8 pieces of ramp and the prevailing wisdom is 10. Same for card-draw: I aim for 8, many aim for 10. Extra ramp is great with Oona's ability and card-draw can draw you into lands and just generally smooth everything out.
Reconnaissance Mission would be good. Treasure Cruise is often almost an Ancestral Recall and is budget too. Even though you're running Blue , Read the Bones is a great rate, as is Night's Whisper . Divination , Concentrate , and Tidings are all great on a budget, if a bit unexciting.
I love Keep Watch , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Theft of Dreams , Insight , Windfall , Plea for Power , Curse of Verbosity , and Manifold Insights but they are swingy. High ceilings, low floors. The mana cost on them is what makes them so good.
Midnight Clock is budget right now but it's starting to make waves. Get yours now while they're cheap. Ramp AND draw! Great on a budget.
Secrets of the Golden City and Kumena's Awakening should usually be City's Blessing-ed. I like Kimena's a lot on a budget (along with Patient Rebuilding ). Rush of Knowledge is decent if you have Oona out. Fathom Trawl is a guaranteed three non-lands, though it might be a bit lackluster with so many faeries. Not a bad card though. Mind Spring is great with ramp.
Drawn from Dreams and Dig Through Time are probably better than Diabolic Tutor until you have a game-winning card in the deck like Coat of Arms or some combo pieces (of which all are out-of-budget). I'd say drop Diabolic Tutor . Diabolic Vision is all right on a budget, as is Pilfered Plans , Forbidden Alchemy , and Notion Rain . We can probably do better, even on a tight budget.
With all your fliers, Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory are fantastic card-draw cards. Mask of Riddles is cute. Curiosity and Curious Obsession are decent but dangerous. Chart a Course is decent with fliers. Whispering Madness can be good with fliers too.
I have mixed feelings about Opt , Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand , Ponder , Preordain , Portent . They certainly don't hurt but they're bad late-game. I run them in some decks. Consider them if most of your card-draw is expensive. Brainstorm is a bit of a trap unless you have ways to shuffle your library and get rig of unwanted cards. This usually requires fetch lands like Polluted Delta and is better in 60-card formats.
Rain of Revelation , Archmage's Charm , Fact or Fiction , Succumb to Temptation , Precognitive Perception , Frantic Search , Pull from Tomorrow , Gush , Village Rites are all good for being instants so you can leave counterspells up and if you don't need them you can draw. That's one of the reasons a card like Anticipate looks weak but is nice for keeping counterspells open. Fact or Fiction is particularly good and is considered a staple in many formats, including EDH.
I would swap out Dimir Locket and Dimir Cluestone for Mind Stone and Prismatic Lens . Maybe Star Compass if it is in budget. I know you need your colors but 3-mana mana rocks that don't have huge upside are sooooo slow. Arcane Signet is probably out of budget, which is too bad. Is Wayfarer's Bauble still expensive? Probably. Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive maybe? Oona isn't cheap and you want mana for her ability if push comes to shove. Trinket Mage is ramp because it can snag Sol Ring , making it the same rate as Explosive Vegetation and Hedron Archive .