Surveil 2, then draw two card. Notion Rain deals 2 damage 2 you. (To surveil 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
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Notion Rain Discussion
4 weeks ago
Hey, well done for a first deck on such a low budget. I haven't seen this Commander before.
When you're just starting out building decks in Commander it can be helpful to have some basic deck structure guildlines to follow.
- 36-38 lands (Exotic Orchard, Path of Ancestry)
- 20-25 creatures (Soulherder, Brago, King Eternal)
- 10 ramp sources (Arcane Signet, Knight of the White Orchid)
- 10 draw sources (Brainstorm, Palace Jailer)
- 10 removal/board wipes/counterspells (Swords to Plowshares, Cleansing Nova, Counterspell)
This is just a basic structure to get things started. It doesn't cover everything and your final deck may have different numbers for each part of the structure such as you might have more creatures. Some cards can cover more than one area such as Palace Jailer who is creature removal and can be repeatable draw which is really helpful.
Ramp is something all Commander decks need since you don't want to only rely on lands/land drops to make mana. You have Sol Ring which is really good, but that's where the ramp ends here. Only Sol is not enough ramp.
I always explain to new Commander deck builders that you need to be able to sacrifice (cut) some of the fun cards to add ramp to your deck. Since doing this will help gameplay so that you can more easily cast your Commander and the other big fun cards you want to play. In the case here my advice is consider cutting at least 9 cards to add more budget ramp?
- Arcane Signet
- Knight of the White Orchid
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Fellwar Stone
- Azorius Signet
- Orzhov Signet
- Mind Stone
- Commander's Sphere
Some cards to consider cutting to add more ramp are creatures who don't do enough for their mana cost: Gods' Hall Guardian, Living Tempest, Dread Rider, Shepherd of Heroes, Kor Celebrant, Ronom Unicorn, Brinebarrow Intruder
Like ramp all decks also need draw that comes from single draw effects and more importantly repeatable draw sources. Currently your deck has three good single draw effects Baleful Strix, Champion of Wits, Cloudblazer and one repeatable draw source Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. There's a reanimation theme here that can get you more draw from these creatures which is good, but consider more draw?
- Palace Jailer
- Sea Gate Oracle
- Thorn of the Black Rose
- Arguel's Blood Fast Flip
- Notion Rain
Jailer and Rose can be repeatable draw sources with the Monarch Emblem. When you have the monarch then you draw a card at your end step. Only one player in the game at one time can be the monarch and it can change players. As long as you are monarch you get the repeatable draw at your end step which is a big advantage.
For an opponent to become the monarch they have to do combat damage with a creature to you or play a card/effect that makes them the monarch. When this happens you loose the monarch and that opponent becomes the monarch. You can get back the monarch though by doing combat damage with a creature to the opponent who is the monarch or playing a card/effect that makes you the monarch.
The area of your deck that you have a lot of is removal. I count 23 single effects of removal here. You can afford to cut some removal to improve other areas of your deck: Withercrown, Befuddle, Iron Verdict, Smite the Monstrous.
If you're interested I offer more advice in another comment. Including explaining how blink from single effects or repeatable such as Soulherder and Brago, King Eternal can be powerful here. Would you like me to continue with more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
RNR_Gaming you skipped over several of my points ;)
I'd also point out the majority of commanders do the same things every game to some extent. Atraxa decks are all walkers or generic counter decks, Meren decks all reanimate the same handful of things, Lathril is just elfball, Kozilek is just eldrazi tribal, Yuriko is either ninja tribal or big cmc, Edgar goes high cmc control vampires or low cmc aggro vampires. Very rarely do people have obscure decks without predictable strategies. The details can change as they have in my Mairsil deck from time to time. Sometimes I use Oona as my win con, other times tree of perdition, or even just turning Mairsil sideways after hex parasite eats a few planeswalkers. There's more to if you want me to go into it. People that look at Mairsil often limit themselves rather than be creative with him.
"Since release I would say the only thing that 100% goes into almost every list is Asmodious." This is just false and no one ever backs it up when they say it because they can't. Asmodeus the Archfiend, Unmarked Grave, The Deck of Many Things, Endling, Oriq Loremage, Pendant of Prosperity, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling, Spark Double, Sakashima of a Thousand Faces, Doom Whisperer, Ormos, Archive Keeper, Teferi's Time Twist, Notion Rain, Shenanigans, Battlemage's Bracers, Netherborn Altar, Lithoform Engine, Sanctum of Eternity, Wizard's Spellbook, and more. These all easily fit into Mairsil lists and make for difficult choices on what to keep and what to cut. Again though if you wanted to only build as optimally as possible there are only 2 or 3 things that lead to victories. Although even one of those didn't exist until after Mairsil was printed, Thassa's Oracle. He gets plenty of toys, people are just unimaginative imo.
2 months ago
Liliana, Untouched By Death seems to be better planeswalker option than Liliana, the Last Hope. Also it let's you combo with new Shambling Ghast because it leaves Treasure token behind to recast it from grave. With Diregraf Captain and alike it's an auto win + if you have Rooftop Storm on field you can create infinite Treasure tokens.
2 months ago
I've considered NS in place of Notion Rain, but it feels fairly weak without our surveil-matters cards out. It might be worth trying a couple of copies in place of some of the surveil sorceries though.
2 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions!
- For Disinformation Campaign , this is one I keep going back and fourth on in place of Notion Rain , and so far I've just found NR to be a little bit more effective for us, drawing us one more card, triggering our surveil-matters creatures one more time, and being able to be flashed-back with Mission Briefing , but I'll keep testing and see if DC isn't the correct play instead.
- Drown in the Loch is one on my radar, but without much in the way of dedicated mill, I'm just afraid it will be a dead card too often. If I find that's not the case and I'm usually filling my opponents graveyard quicker than expected with cards like Thought Erasure , then I'll start working a few copies in.
- Fatal Push is a fantastic card and would easily swap with Tyrant's Scorn , but doesn't fit with our budget unless we wanted to cut more Doom Whisperer s or start playing taplands.
- Eliminate 's slightly easier casting cost and ability to hit planeswalkers is an attractive alternative to Tyrant's Scorn , but I really like TS's flexibility to bounce larger creatures later in the game, which is a far more common occurrence than sub-4 mana planeswalkers at this price point. It might be worth making room for in the sideboard, and definitely to keep in mind in case I start seeing an increase in walkers in my local meta.
7 months ago
Drop Faerie Tauntings , Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , Traumatize , Trepanation Blade , add about one or two more ramp and two more card-draw at least. I almost always run 8 pieces of ramp and the prevailing wisdom is 10. Same for card-draw: I aim for 8, many aim for 10. Extra ramp is great with Oona's ability and card-draw can draw you into lands and just generally smooth everything out.
Reconnaissance Mission would be good. Treasure Cruise is often almost an Ancestral Recall and is budget too. Even though you're running Blue , Read the Bones is a great rate, as is Night's Whisper . Divination , Concentrate , and Tidings are all great on a budget, if a bit unexciting.
I love Keep Watch , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Theft of Dreams , Insight , Windfall , Plea for Power , Curse of Verbosity , and Manifold Insights but they are swingy. High ceilings, low floors. The mana cost on them is what makes them so good.
Midnight Clock is budget right now but it's starting to make waves. Get yours now while they're cheap. Ramp AND draw! Great on a budget.
Secrets of the Golden City and Kumena's Awakening should usually be City's Blessing-ed. I like Kimena's a lot on a budget (along with Patient Rebuilding ). Rush of Knowledge is decent if you have Oona out. Fathom Trawl is a guaranteed three non-lands, though it might be a bit lackluster with so many faeries. Not a bad card though. Mind Spring is great with ramp.
Drawn from Dreams and Dig Through Time are probably better than Diabolic Tutor until you have a game-winning card in the deck like Coat of Arms or some combo pieces (of which all are out-of-budget). I'd say drop Diabolic Tutor . Diabolic Vision is all right on a budget, as is Pilfered Plans , Forbidden Alchemy , and Notion Rain . We can probably do better, even on a tight budget.
With all your fliers, Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory are fantastic card-draw cards. Mask of Riddles is cute. Curiosity and Curious Obsession are decent but dangerous. Chart a Course is decent with fliers. Whispering Madness can be good with fliers too.
I have mixed feelings about Opt , Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand , Ponder , Preordain , Portent . They certainly don't hurt but they're bad late-game. I run them in some decks. Consider them if most of your card-draw is expensive. Brainstorm is a bit of a trap unless you have ways to shuffle your library and get rig of unwanted cards. This usually requires fetch lands like Polluted Delta and is better in 60-card formats.
Rain of Revelation , Archmage's Charm , Fact or Fiction , Succumb to Temptation , Precognitive Perception , Frantic Search , Pull from Tomorrow , Gush , Village Rites are all good for being instants so you can leave counterspells up and if you don't need them you can draw. That's one of the reasons a card like Anticipate looks weak but is nice for keeping counterspells open. Fact or Fiction is particularly good and is considered a staple in many formats, including EDH.
I would swap out Dimir Locket and Dimir Cluestone for Mind Stone and Prismatic Lens . Maybe Star Compass if it is in budget. I know you need your colors but 3-mana mana rocks that don't have huge upside are sooooo slow. Arcane Signet is probably out of budget, which is too bad. Is Wayfarer's Bauble still expensive? Probably. Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive maybe? Oona isn't cheap and you want mana for her ability if push comes to shove. Trinket Mage is ramp because it can snag Sol Ring , making it the same rate as Explosive Vegetation and Hedron Archive .
7 months ago
I'd start by identifying what you want the main goal of your deck to be. I see two main ideas here that could be built around.
The first is dealing unblocked damage by disincentivizing blocks with deathtouch. Darkblade Agent , Eternal of Harsh Truths , Graveblade Marauder , and maybe Blightsteel Colossus (with enough reanimation) fit this archetype. Because of the two "blade" cards, there is some overlap with the second archetype which I'll cover next (and if you keep them, cards like Notion Rain , Mission Briefing , Thought Erasure , and Discovery / Dispersal are likely to get more mileage than Divination or Secrets of the Golden City ), but there may be even better ways to profit from unblocked creatures. Curiosity enchantments like Curious Obsession , Sixth Sense , and Keen Sense are frequent accompaniments to the Invisible Stalker s and other bogles of the world, and Bident of Thassa is a strong option for those going wide. I like Quietus Spike as a sort of midway point between Basilisk Collar and Master of Cruelties in decks like these too. Other beaters to get in with could be Tomebound Lich , Oona's Blackguard , Dimir Cutpurse , Looter il-Kor , Shadowmage Infiltrator , Surrakar Spellblade , Wharf Infiltrator , or Virtus the Veiled if he's legal in whatever format this is for. More generic deathtouch synergy could include Hooded Blightfang , Viridian Longbow , Thornbite Staff , Psionic Gift enchantments, and any source of first strike. Finally, I like Cipher as a way to gain advantage from repeated attacks, so maybe a Hidden Strings or Paranoid Delusions could come in handy.
The second main idea is to stack the graveyard(s) with as many creatures as possible to extract value from Undergrowth and similar mechanics. Avatar of Woe , Lotleth Giant , Trepanation Blade , Teferi's Tutelage , and some of your Disentomb effects fit here. Major threats in these kinds of decks include Wight of Precinct Six , Jace's Phantasm , Consuming Aberration , Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker , Fleet Swallower , Nemesis of Reason , Bonehoard , Mortivore , and Nighthowler . If you want to focus on your own graveyard, green is a great color to dip into as I alluded to earlier. Ghoultree , Boneyard Wurm , Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord , Splinterfright , Nyx Weaver , Nemesis of Mortals , Spider Spawning , and Kessig Cagebreakers are just some of the tools you get access to. Golgari is also the king of Undergrowth, so Hatchery Spider , Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Molderhulk , Rhizome Lurcher / Undergrowth Scavenger , Kraul Harpooner , and Necrotic Wound are on the table. If milling your opponents is more your thing, some staples to consider are Thought Scour , Sphinx's Tutelage , Drown in the Loch , Traumatize , Fraying Sanity , and the crab duo. Jace's Erasure , Psychic Corrosion , and the Tutelage pair benefit the most from other draw synergy, and Visions of Beyond is an obvious inclusion if that's the route you take. Either way, I'd cut down to only the most efficient of your reanimate to hand cards and the like since you don't want to be stuck with a fist full of them and no creatures in the graveyard to target. Speaking of cuts, for maximum power, it's usually correct to play as close to the 60 card minimum as possible. Picking a single strategy to hone in on should make it easier to whittle down to the most important 60 in the deck.
If you have questions, let me know. Good luck with your build!
8 months ago
First of all: I'm not really the best person to give feedback on a type of deck that I've never played. I mostly mastered Esper colors, but red is a bad color for me to use.
Next, there are some basic things that a commander deck needs. You need Lands, Removal, Ramp, Draw, and Wipes.
EDHrec has recommendations for your specific commander and it's common playstyles. The site's flaws are any new cards that have only recently came out, and you might find some really good cards that are either relatively new or as obscure as f** due to the fact that the site is based on popularity.
Scryfall can find obscure or new cards perfect for your new commander deck.
As for the basic tools a commander deck needs, it all comes down to 36-37 lands (these need to generate mana. However, some have certain effects and count as spells), 6-8 removal spells (cards that counter spells or destroy permanents), 5 board wipes (Example is Wrath of God and Doomskar. Other options for Grixis are Damnation, In Garruk's Wake, AEtherize, Cyclonic Rift, Fade Away, Devastation, which you should NOT run in a casual deck with casual friends, I REPEAT NO IT WIPES LANDS DO-, and Blasphemous Act), 10 draw spells (Read the Bones, Notion Rain, for decks with unblockable creatures Sygg, River Cutthroat and Bident of Thassa, though there are probably other forms of repeatable draw found in your colors), and 10 forms of ramp. These can take the form of mana dorks which are creatures that generate more mana, like Llanowar Elves, or a blue version of it can be Apprentice Wizard, mana rocks, which are the second safest form of ramp and are most common. Dimir Signet, and Rakdos Signet, and also Izzet Signet are both really good. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are found in ZendiCommander decks, or Zendikar Commander decks. Land ramp is the safest form of ramping and is most commonly found in Green, but Blue can do it as well due to the release of Planar Chaos. Expect more land ramp in other colors soon with the release of Time Spiral Remastered. Dreamscape Artist is that one single land ramp found in blue.
I recommend this video right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jO2fmsef0g
These are the absolute basics of a casual commander deck. Have fun!