Elven Cache

Sorcery

Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (12)

oeliberti on It's Culane to apologize

3 years ago

Noice list! Opinions:

Elven Cache is a bad Regrowth, you maybe even want it on a stick in this deck, that would be Eternal Witness.

Venser's Journal always feels like a "dead" card in any deck but lifegain, i feel like it is an easy card to cut for other cards that support your strategy for a more focussed deck, like Cathars' Crusade as only one example.

Of course i see the synergy on each Tuskguard Captain, Ainok Bond-Kin and Abzan Battle Priest but i feel like they're also just fillers. Their effects just aren't strong and you can better put 3 goodstuff cards out of the bant colors in this deck than these 3 weak creatures (imho!). They're no trash of course but i don't find them strong or good either. So these may be easy cuts too for at least better goodstuff-cards or even synergy cards - for the +1/+1 theme i have the 3 more budget -friendly examples Conclave Mentor, Master Biomancer and Toothy, Imaginary Friend, they support your strategy way better and are more focussed like the 3 mentioned above in your list.

Expensive auto-includes for this deck would be Doubling Season or overall goodstuff like Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study - and many others ^^

CYA!!

Spell_Slam on New Veteran on the Block

4 years ago

Hi! Got to this deck through the Compendium. I was attracted by your promise of a competitive list.

VE seems like a very risky creature to have as your commander. It seems very dangerous, especially in a multiplayer game, to ramp the whole table at the same time. This is especially true if the opponent can kill him on their own turn and get the benefit of the ramp before you do. How has your experience been with this?

That aside, I do have a few suggestions for you.

Ulamog's Crusher is not in your list. Is he house-banned in your group? If not, he should really be in here.

Fierce Empath is whatever fatty you want him to be. Extra good with ways to bounce him or return him to your hand.

Revive and Wildwood Rebirth seem pretty free to have in your deck. Elven Cache is great too. 4 mana is not too much to pay conisdering how you ramp and how important VE is to your strategy. Recasting him for 5 mana seems worth it.

You're missing the classic Green Finisher of PDH: Sprout Swarm. With lots of mana and little creatures, this quickly gets out of hand and wins you the game. I can't recommend it enough.

Knight of the Stampede should really be Krosan Drover. The only synergy you lose out on is with Overgrown Armasaur, but otherwise it does the same thing, but better.

Yavimaya Elder is another classic way to get card advantage in Mono-Green.

Other fatties to consider: Walker of the Grove and Maul Splicer. You might also be interesting in Slime Molding and Ivy Elemental.

Ashnod's Altar is a free sac outlet for your commander that will ramp you +4 on that turn at least. It also gives you something to do with little dorks that are hanging around the battlefield not doing much. Bonus points for the combo with Sprout Swarm.

Primal Growth is another great ramp card for you. It doesn't require the sacrifice if you don't want it, the lands come into play untapped, and it's still very explosive with VE. I think you could play this over Map the Wastes.

I slept for a long time on Elvish Skysweeper, but the card is actually amazing. Works well with your Commander, too. I would definitely play it over some of your other Flying hate.

In terms of cuts, You can definitely trim on the worse fatties, like Tyrranax, Cowl Prowler and Overgrown Armasaur, some of your middling ramp cards like Eyeless Watcher and Scion Summoner, and random cards like Snapping Gnarlid and Copperhorn Scout that only provide situational benefits.

Let me know if you need help finding more cards to cut. I think it's a good start and should make for a fast, explosive deck provided you don't get out-valued by decks that can take advantage of the free ramp.

Spell_Slam on He was a kickr boi, she said c u later boi

4 years ago

Great start! You have pretty much all the good kicker cards. I think you could focus a bit more on the secondary theme of Hallar, which is +1/+1 counters. Hallar doesn't care where the counters come from, which means you don't actually need that many Kicker cards to make him deal tons of damage.

Hunger of the Howlpack is a great addition to the deck, being one of the most efficient counter-givers in Pauper.

Elven Rite, New Horizons and Soul's Might are all very efficient ways to get lots of counters on your Commander.

Mutant's Prey and Hunt the Weak are great removal spells for your deck that is chock-full of +1/+1 counters. Feral Contest also isn't bad.

Ivy Lane Denizen is a must have in this deck. You make plenty of tokens, which can either make Hallar massive or simply make your 1/1s into 2/2s, which is an incredible boost.

Longshot Squad gives most of your team reach. Aquastrand Spider also does it for a cost, but can also distribute counters. Spike Colony is a pretty beefy creature that can also give its counters to others. This can make combat very difficult for the opponent on top of all the synergy it gives naturally.

Horned Kavu is extremely useful in this deck, since it can re-buy so many of your ETB triggers for lots of value.

It's so hard to get card advantage in these colours. I would definitely play Entourage of Trest to try to keep up with Blue and Black decks. I also don't leave home without Rolling Thunder and Elven Cache in these colours as cards to catch you up in card advantage. You could also be running up to six cycling lands, namely Tranquil Thicket and Forgotten Cave. In terms of synergy, you could also go for Tishana's Wayfinder and Brazen Buccaneers.

I would also think about adding all the mediocre +1/+1 counter distributers, like Bond Beetle, Kujar Seedsculptor, Ironshell Beetle, Scrounging Bandar, Satyr Grovedancer.

Spell_Slam on

4 years ago

Cool idea for a deck! I think you could try to build around your commander even more.

In your mana base, a very easy inclusion would be all the cycling lands. Desert of the Fervent , Desert of the Indomitable, Tranquil Thicket , Slippery Karst and Smoldering Crater are great for Gruul decks to have anyways because of the lack of card draw and they work super well with your commander.

All the Dredge stuff would be great in the deck. You already have Brownscale, but you could use Shenanigans (there's always a target), Moldervine Cloak and Greater Mossdog all give you consistent action in the late game that will also power up your damage.

There are tons of self-mill cards that are worth running for card advantage. Lead the Stampede , Beast Hunt , Benefaction of Rhonas , Commune with the Gods , Kruphix's Insight , Scout the Borders all work at varying degrees of efficiency. If you ran a few more enchantments (which wouldn't be hard to do), this could actually be a great way to stock your graveyard and give you tons of action throughout the game.

With that in mind, almost every Flashback card is probably worth running. Same goes with Retrace and Jump-Start. These will give you so many options over the course of the game and be an extension to your hand.

Book Burning Targeting yourself is a pretty good way to stock the graveyard quickly, unless an opponent wants to take 6, which is also nice.

Chainflinger is decent in PDH and would fit nicely in a deck like yours.

Firebolt is very good in general and gets even better if you're milling it into your graveyard.

Fortitude can make a big creature a bigger problem and feed your graveyard lands.

Mother Bear seems like a good fit, like most cards that generate value in the graveyard.

Elven Cache is a great card to have in green PDH. It doesn't cost you a draw like Reclaim does, which justifies the mana cost, in my opinion.

Is Renewal to janky? Cantripping and fixing your mana might not be worth 3 mana, but it does move your gameplan forward somewhat.

A lot of the cards in your maybeboard are cards I think you should actually play. Excavating Anurid is quite strong. A 5/5 vigilance that cantrips at almost no downside for you is really good. Igneous Elemental is comparable to Flametongue Kavu in many scenarios. All your burn and removal that requires sacrificing creatures or lands is also good for your game plan. Quicksand has no downside in your mana base.

In general, I think having more creature-based ramp might be better than sorcery or artifact ones, unless they sac lands. Rampant Growth, Land Grant, Search for Tomorrow, Renegade Map and Armillary Sphere seem like they would be stronger as mana dorks. Zhur-Taa Druid and Silhana Starfletcher are both cards that do a lot of work in PDH, plus all the typical 1-mana ramp creatures in Green.

Otherwise, I think Diligent Farmhand and Muscle Burst is cute, but not very effective overall.

Relic of Progenitus is powerful, but very risky for you. Something like Night Soil could be a stronger choice, or just plain old Tormod's Crypt .

Chain Lightning and Lightning Bolt are oddly enough not impactful enough to play in PDH, in my opinion. I would vastly prefer Staggershock over either one for the better damage output or card advantage potential. These could be easy subsitutes for some of your maybeboard spells.

A lot of your creatures are aggressive, but not enough to really be pertinent in a game with 30-40 life (depending on how you play). Borderland Marauder, Burning-Tree Emissary, Moldgraf Scavenger, Zectar Shrine Expedition and to a certain extent even Scythe Tiger could be better as more resilient, synergistic or more powerful threats that scale better with all the ramping you're doing. Something like Sprout Swarm is a classic game-winning card that is good across the entirety of the game and works well with sac effects you're running.

Last thing: I think you should run more lands. I get that you're trying to be low to the ground and aggressive, but running a low land count hurts you in a lot of ways. It makes less opening hands keepable, it restricts the breadth of finishers you can use, it lowers the efficiency of your commander and cards like Winding Way and can even result in you running out of basics to fetch in the mid-to-late game. I think 38-40 lands would be a more appropriate number.

Again, great idea for a deck and I'm looking forward to hearing more about how you do with it. Is it more for 1-on-1 play or multiplayer?

FUL on Bootleg CoCo

5 years ago

then, what about some cards to take back Captured Sunlight or something else from graveyard? like Salvage (there's also Elven Cache but i don't really see this cost in the deck's mechanics)

Gwent on Marine Biology & The Benthic Zone

5 years ago

Good catch! I replaced Regrowth with Elven Cache, I believe Feldon's Cane can also suffice

Bxbx on Gorgeous Girls Deck(list)

5 years ago

Hi,

that's quite an impressive list! A lot of artworks I didn't know of. But you also missed a few:

Aggression, Alexi, Zephyr Mage, Archangel of Strife, Azure Mage, Blood Cultist, Crossway Vampire, Deathless Angel, Elven Cache (6th edition), Fishliver Oil (9th edition), Game of Chaos (5th edition), Inkfathom Infiltrator, Jasmine Boreal, Juniper Order Advocate, Mortiphobia, Remembrance, Snuff Out (duel decks), Sylvan Ranger (M11), Tormented Angel, Vine Trellis, Vitalizing Cascade

HeroInMyOwnMind on Freaks Come Out @ Night

7 years ago

Things I would drop:

Dolmen Gate: Doesn't help you win.

Door of Destinies: I know it's a tribal deck, but it is too slow. Use Coat of Arms instead if you really want the theme, but you'd be better off leaving out both.

Decree of Savagery: Too small of a increase for too much of a cost. It's out of place in the deck as well.

Setessan Tactics: Only useful when your creatures are in Werewolf form, which might be too inconsistent.

Gruul War Chant: Personally I find this card underwhelming.

Parallel Lives: You are not running enough token generation to justify the spot.

Spidersilk Armor: If you want to block flyers, use Akroma's Memorial instead.

I would also cut down the creatures to 25-30. Your weakest links are:

Master of the Wild Hunt

Purphoros, God of the Forge

Pyreheart Wolf

Reckless Waif  ^Flip

Silverfur Partisan

Village Messenger  ^Flip

Your average CMC is kind of high, so I would put more ramp in. Skyshroud Claim, Kodama's Reach, and Rampant Growth.

The Humans/Werewolfs are also pretty puny overall (design flaw IMO), so you'll need to help them with more damage. Gratuitous Violence, Shared Animosity, and Berserkers' Onslaught are options.

You might want to consider some more recursion to get back Moonmist more often. Shreds of Sanity, Surreal Memoir, All Suns' Dawn, Elven Cache, Eternal Witness, Nostalgic Dreams, Praetor's Counsel, Recollect, Revive, Seasons Past, and about a million more. I would stick to the low mana cost spells personally, as I'd really only try to get back Moonmist, but I would put 3-5 of them in the deck.

The last thing I would suggest is some more card draw. With all your win-cons in creatures that aren't very strong to begin with, you are going to need to out resource you opponents to secure kills. Next time you come over we can play a few rounds with it, and we'll see how it needs to be tuned.