Krosan Drover

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Krosan Drover

Creature — Elf

Creature spells you play with converted mana cost 6 or more cost (2) less to play.

Ca1m_down on BlitzKrieg

1 year ago

Hey, cool list. I think there are a couple of different ways of building Henzie and I feel like you have a couple of different ideas going on here. Here are my thoughts on the different themes you can focus on that synergize with Henzie's abilities:

Cost reduction (making big impactful creature cost as little as possible to cast multiple in a turn every turn) Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma, Nylea, Keen-Eyed, Cloud Key, The Immortal Sun, Marauding Raptor, Heartless Summoning, Krosan Drover, Goblin Anarchomancer, Semblance Anvil

"Blink" (lots of undying, persist, and plenty of "Feign Death" effects to maximize etb/dies triggers and keep the creatures after blitz) Cauldron of Souls, Conjurer's Closet, Kaya's Ghostform, Supernatural Stamina, Blood for Bones, Undying Malice, Minion's Return, Demonic Gifts, Abnormal Endurance, Unholy Indenture, Return to Action, Fake Your Own Death, Flayer of the Hatebound, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Puppeteer Clique, Woodfall Primus, Murderous Redcap, Faceless Butcher

Value Town (maximize card advantage, keep the cards flowing, recursion, keep non-creature count low) Guardian Project, The Great Henge, Greater Good, Lifeblood Hydra, Demonlord Belzenlok, Gorex, the Tombshell, Deadwood Treefolk, Acolyte of Affliction, Evolutionary Leap

I think doing a combination of these three things is solid, but I'd recommend focusing on one and trying to keep the game plan somewhat focused. My brew leans towards Value Town.

Things in your current list that I'm a little skeptical of:

Sundial of the Infinite I think since Henzie is only giving us a small mana discount, this would just be used as a weird "your creatures have haste". I think you often want to take advantage of the "when this dies, draw" rather than 1+ mana cost reduction.

Deathreap Ritual This doesn't trigger if your creatures are dying in your end step to blitz, creatures need to die before the end step for the Ritual trigger to go on the stack. Even if that wasn't the case, I feel like it's better in decks where you're the one making sure it's triggering on each of your opponents turns. What Henzie is doing doesn't really help with doing that. I feel like Moldervine Reclamation would be similar in concept, but more synergistic once the deck is going (but I also don't think it's worth an inclusion).

Living Death How are you filling your yard? Henzie doesn't get cards into your yard very quickly. I think the is a card that fits better in decks that are doing plenty of looting and self milling. It's very likely the other graveyard players will benefit more than you when you cast this.

Most of your creatures that are less than 4 cmc don't seem like they do enough with Henzie to take a slot. I think you'd be better off if your CMC<4 mana stuff was non-creatures that ramp and/or setup for your game plan. I can understand the sac outlet ones if you're really taking advantage of the instant speed aspect, but most of the time you're having to sac end of turn anyway, so I think it'd be better to take advantage of the better payoff of the non-creature sac outlets (like Evo Leap, Vampiric Rites, the various Altars, Greater Good, etc.) As far as mana dorks, I feel like 2 mana ramp spells will help more in the long run. I don't think Henzie is powerful enough of a turn 2 play to risk losing mana sources to pings and/or wraths.

All that being said, it's great seeing other peoples takes on Henzie. I've certainly gained a bunch from reading your comment on my decklist and thinking critically about yours. I'll try and keep my list updated as I play it more. It's been a blast so far. If I didn't already have a black based "blink" deck I think I'd probably lean Henzie towards that strat. :)

The_boltspeedman on Imoti, Go Big or Go Home *Primer*

2 years ago

Love this! hurts my wallet a bit but it's going to get the job done! Curious about Tatyova, Benthic Druid would you play this in a budget deck if you had one on hand, but not as much extra land presence/landfall type of a deck? Sweeeeeeet Imoti-on for reference. Also as a previous comment said, Krosan Drover is a beauty of a card here. -Best regards, The_boltspeedman

Goody on Elf Tribe Synergies

3 years ago

Krosan Drover is also an interesting one!

Angry_Potatoes on Imoti, Go Big or Go Home *Primer*

3 years ago

Here's a real gem that nobody seems to know exists: Krosan Drover :)

Apollo_Paladin on Land of the Beasts

3 years ago

Krosan Drover is another one that I used to rely on quite a bit in older eras. I don't use it so much anymore since there's a lot more options now than just having high-mana-cost creatures, but it might help speed things along for you since I see you've got a few nice ones in there that are over 6.

It could also help open up some other options for you in case you have other creatures who failed to make the cut for this deck due to being too high a cost to cast.

Epicurus on

4 years ago

I get that, and that's why I suggested what I did. There's way better ramp than those (although Cryptolith Rite is pretty marvelous), but the ones I suggested are predominantly themed. Even Krosan Drover, who is neither a dragon nor a hydra, nor even mentions either in its text, deals exclusively with big creatures. Which includes both.

Even fun decks deserve to be somewhat competitive. Look at my Fling Squee. Fun, goofy, always entertaining to play, and often screws around and wins.

Epicurus on

4 years ago

You don't seem to have a lot of mana ramp in the deck, and it appears to be incredibly slow. Not being the owner of the deck, it's certainly possible that I'm wrong. However, if I may suggest:

Dragonspeaker Shaman

Krosan Drover

Garruk Wildspeaker

Sarkhan, Fireblood

Defense of the Heart

Cryptolith Rite

Spell_Slam on New Veteran on the Block

4 years ago

Hi! Got to this deck through the Compendium. I was attracted by your promise of a competitive list.

VE seems like a very risky creature to have as your commander. It seems very dangerous, especially in a multiplayer game, to ramp the whole table at the same time. This is especially true if the opponent can kill him on their own turn and get the benefit of the ramp before you do. How has your experience been with this?

That aside, I do have a few suggestions for you.

Ulamog's Crusher is not in your list. Is he house-banned in your group? If not, he should really be in here.

Fierce Empath is whatever fatty you want him to be. Extra good with ways to bounce him or return him to your hand.

Revive and Wildwood Rebirth seem pretty free to have in your deck. Elven Cache is great too. 4 mana is not too much to pay conisdering how you ramp and how important VE is to your strategy. Recasting him for 5 mana seems worth it.

You're missing the classic Green Finisher of PDH: Sprout Swarm. With lots of mana and little creatures, this quickly gets out of hand and wins you the game. I can't recommend it enough.

Knight of the Stampede should really be Krosan Drover. The only synergy you lose out on is with Overgrown Armasaur, but otherwise it does the same thing, but better.

Yavimaya Elder is another classic way to get card advantage in Mono-Green.

Other fatties to consider: Walker of the Grove and Maul Splicer. You might also be interesting in Slime Molding and Ivy Elemental.

Ashnod's Altar is a free sac outlet for your commander that will ramp you +4 on that turn at least. It also gives you something to do with little dorks that are hanging around the battlefield not doing much. Bonus points for the combo with Sprout Swarm.

Primal Growth is another great ramp card for you. It doesn't require the sacrifice if you don't want it, the lands come into play untapped, and it's still very explosive with VE. I think you could play this over Map the Wastes.

I slept for a long time on Elvish Skysweeper, but the card is actually amazing. Works well with your Commander, too. I would definitely play it over some of your other Flying hate.

In terms of cuts, You can definitely trim on the worse fatties, like Tyrranax, Cowl Prowler and Overgrown Armasaur, some of your middling ramp cards like Eyeless Watcher and Scion Summoner, and random cards like Snapping Gnarlid and Copperhorn Scout that only provide situational benefits.

Let me know if you need help finding more cards to cut. I think it's a good start and should make for a fast, explosive deck provided you don't get out-valued by decks that can take advantage of the free ramp.

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