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Ivy Lane Denizen
Creature — Elf Warrior
Whenever another green creature enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Ivy Lane Denizen Discussion
1 day ago
We gave your request a lot of thought. Our main objective was to keep the spirit of the deck the same. So we decided to try and find replacements for the more expensive cards while keeping the original thought of the replaced cards alive. Naturally this would mean we would end up with cards that are either slightly less effective at what the expensive cards do, or they have a higher CMC, or both.
Almost all replacements we have chosen cost below 1 dollar. Some of the replaced cards are cards we do not own, so we decided not to post a new deck as we only do so when we own all the cards in it. So, here is a list of the replacements we would make in order to turn this into a less expensive deck:
- Forest for all the non-basic lands
- Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip for Beast Whisperer
- Ivy Lane Denizen for Bloodspore Thrinax
- End-Raze Forerunners for Craterhoof Behemoth
- Wirewood Channeler for Elvish Archdruid
- Skullwinder for Eternal Witness
- Rushwood Herbalist for Ezuri, Renegade Leader
- Evolutionary Leap for Fauna Shaman
- Elfhame Druid for Fyndhorn Elves
- Deadly Recluse for Hornet Queen
- Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen for Joraga Warcaller
- Ant Queen for Mycoloth
- Nullmage Advocate for Nullmage Shepherd
- Centaur Rootcaster for Oracle of Mul Daya
- Thunderfoot Baloth for Pathbreaker Ibex
- Mul Daya Channelers for Priest of Titania
- Initiate's Companion for Quirion Ranger
- Runic Armasaur for Regal Force
- Yavimaya Elder for Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Llanowar Scout for Sakura-Tribe Scout
- Deathgorge Scavenger for Scavenging Ooze
- Fyndhorn Brownie for Scryb Ranger
- Rampaging Baloths for Seedborn Muse (we know, not quite the same functions)
- Archetype of Endurance for Asceticism
- Overrun for Beastmaster Ascension
- Abundance for Burgeoning / Exploration
- Beast Within for Song of the Dryads
- Nature's Claim for Krosan Grip
- Vitalize for Benefactor's Draught
- Shared Summons for Green Sun's Zenith / Genesis Wave
- Mask of Avacyn for Lightning Greaves / Swiftfoot Boots
- Sol Ring for Worn Powerstone
We were not able to find suitable replacements (i.e.: cards that would do the same thing but be slightly less effective at it) for the following cards:
- Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
- Concordant Crossroads
- Mirri's Guile
- Quest for Renewal
- Heroic Intervention
- Worldly Tutor
- Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Umbral Mantle
So if you have any suggestions for these, please let us know. For now, we hope we helped you a bit to make a cheaper version of our deck. Have fun brewing it!
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
1 week ago
I don't really see the point of the +1/+1 subtheme here. I think more flicker effects could be better instead. Think cards like Conjurer's Closet , Deadeye Navigator , Displace , Essence Flux , Ghostly Flicker , Illusionist's Stratagem , Teferi's Time Twist , Voidwalk . Heck, even Identity Thief kinda fits this bill. Otherwise, just add more ETB effects. I notice there's no Coiling Oracle in here and I'm pretty shocked. Maybe some more removal would be prudent. Putrefy at the very least, more (3-5 instant speed removal spells) is probably better.
So cards I think are worth cutting are most things that have to do w/ +1/+1 counters. Winding Constrictor Skatewing Spy , Ivy Lane Denizen , Bred for the Hunt , Hardened Scales , potentially Evolution Sage . There's a few other counters cards that could be considered for cuts but have enough synergy with the rest of the deck to be fine. I'd also think about cutting down on the token subtheme as well. I don't see Verdant Force being that helpful. There's not enough cards that trigger on "whenever a creature ETB" in here for tokens to be really worth it, I think. Speaking of cards that trigger "when creature ETB" I don't really like Death Match or Season of Growth (or for that matter Hedonist's Trove ) in here. These cards don't really do enough for you or let your opponents do something bad to you, potentially. Once again, I'd look to put in more ETB effects or I'd look to add in a few instants and sorceries that do things you want to do in any deck (removal, board wipe, card draw, ramp, tutors, etc.)
Overall, this deck looks really fun. I hope to play against it someday.
3 weeks ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
The main thing to consider for improvements is to add some win conditions that use Marath with other enchantments. Can be achieved by adding only one card. Currently there's not a clear way to win the game. You're drawing cards with enchantresses playing enchantments, but what is this accomplishing? In the end you want to win the game.
Consider adding Mana Echoes ? Yes, it's an expensive price card. Echoes is an enchantment and it's a combo piece with Marath and one other enchantment or card to win the game by putting infinite mana into Marath doing infinite damage to your opponents.
- Marath + Echoes + Doubling Season
- Marath + Echoes + Cathars' Crusade
- Marath + Echoes + Illusionist's Bracers equipped to Marath
- Marath + Echoes + Ivy Lane Denizen
You already have most of the other cards you need for these combos just have to add Echoes to complete the combos.
Impact Tremors , Purphoros, God of the Forge and Pandemonium are enchantments that are good with Marah's ability to make Elemental tokens. These cards can be win conditions in combos with Earthcraft + Marath + the same other cards as Echoes. Echoes is however the better combos because it's one less card and the win is coming from damage done by Marath. Ashnod's Altar is like Echoes one less card and is another enabler for win condition combos with Marath. Just replace Echoes with Altar in the same combos.
Other cards to consider adding:
- Gamble : can tutor for an enchantment.
- Eladamri's Call
- Eternal Witness
- Eidolon of Blossoms : another enchantress who cares about enchantments that ETB not cast.
- Wild Growth
- Utopia Sprawl
- Trace of Abundance
- Grasp of Fate
Cards to consider cutting:
- Explosive Vegetation
- Mana Geyser
- Rishkar, Peema Renegade
- Ranging Raptors
- Helm of the Gods
- Prison Term
- Primal Vigor
- Return to Dust or Crush Contraband
1 month ago
You meat want to include the Ezuri, Renegade Leader from the inventors deck, with the warcaller you only need to use ezuri once and the trample does the job. Beast Whisperer is another elf I auto include because he's really great. Oran-Rief, the Vastwood is another wolf vs inventors card to consider. Ivy Lane Denizen actually works really well with the warcaller, and Bow of Nylea as well. Lys Alana Huntmaster can help make those tokens for ya. There's a literal Ton of non-budget options as well, but I've avoided mentioning them because you're on a budget. Oh and don't forget Lead the Stampede as it is a great budget option
1 month ago
Creature - Zombie
Whenever another creature you control dies, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
I've got plenty of arms, what color are you looking for?
Made this more with Pauper EDH than Pauper in mind but it works for both. It is another card like Ivy Lane Denizen to combo with Persist creatures for infinite ETB/LTB/Death triggers.
Another new common for a Pauper/Pauper EDH deck.
2 months ago
Ivy Lane Denizen + any persist creatue + any sac outlet
2 months ago
Hi there! I love Ghave, he was among my first Commanders back when I started playing this format in 2013, and is still one of my favorites to this day.
Here's my list, for reference: Ghave: Baby Makin' and Alimony
I have some recommendations that may help speed you along.
First things first: Ghave wants mana and +1/+1 counters. He turns +1/+1 counters into creature tokens- so you want to capitalize on that, and in order to do so, you need mana. Things that can help you make substantially more mana are:
You want to put +1/+1 counters on your stuff because Ghave can turn all that into more creatures. So cards like Ivy Lane Denizen , Cathars' Crusade , Champion of Lambholt , Bloodspore Thrinax , Undying creatures, etc., can let you put more counters on things. In the case of Ivy Lane, for example, you can play, say, Growing Rites of Itlimoc, make 2 tokens (because Ivy Lane will put a counter on the creature that just came in, so you can keep doing it), and then transform Itlimoc at end of turn, which you can tap for 4 mana to make 4 more tokens. Then the next turn, even without playing a land, you can make 18 more tokens (by tapping your 5 lands, then tapping Itlimoc, which will now give 13 mana), and so on, so forth. Having high mana production and multiple cards that can let you get to +1/+1 counters is ideal.
To put this into perspective, Ghave is likely your fastest engine at generating tokens. 1 mana = 1 token is better than Selesnya Guildmage, and all of the counter cards mentioned above are more efficient than Chorus of the Conclave. Ghave + a source of counters is also just better at making tokens than Acorn Catapult, and is generally easier to use than Cobra Trap (though if you get to cast the latter for its trap cost, only then is it more efficient). Penumbra Spider is mediocre for this reason, as well, as is Symbiotic Wurm (since if you have Ghave and Cathars' Crusade, you can pay 8 mana to get 8 8/8s by responding to Crusade's triggered ability). Celestial Force just isn't a very good card, and I would recommend removing it for something that does more for you- even Essence Warden or Soul Warden would gain you substantially more life since you're a token deck. Bestial Menace is also less efficient than just focusing on things like Cathars' Crusade.
I would cut all of those to add in the counters sources mentioned above.
Also, you may find Ravenous Chupacabra more efficient than Dark Hatchling. You can hit black creatures at 2 less mana- that seems more valuable to me.
Other cards you may find helpful:
Generous Patron - put counters on opponent's creatures that aren't doing anything, and you get more cards. Cards are the most important resource in Magic, so this is a worthwhile thing to do.
Beast Within is pretty much better than Afterlife. A 3/3 token without evasion is better to give opponents than a 1/1 that flies, and Beast Within can hit lands, enchantments, even planeswalkers.
Devoted Druid is a fun little creature. If you have it, Cathars' Crusade, and Ghave, you can make infinite saproling tokens.
3 months ago
I see Devoted Druid as a mana-dork+ meaning she’s there for ramp but also has some combo potential unlike other mana dorks. I’ve already mentioned her in the Primer as part of a path to infinite tokens with Ghave and Cathars' Crusade . Basically if we can continue putting +1/+1 counters on her to negate her -1/-1 counters, we can reach infinite mana. We might actually be able to use her with Ghave and Doubling Season for infinite mana tokens, but we also might need another piece. I’d have to sit down and work through that one, however I think we can net a +1/+1 counter on the druid indefinitely.
We should be able to get infinite mana with her and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . If we keep tapping her, she’ll kill herself and come back with a +1/+1 counter over and over again. I should actually add that one to the list because I hadn’t considered it before.
She’s not in this deck, but you could use Melira, Sylvok Outcast who also combos with our persist creatures. The only reason I don’t include her is because I don’t think she synergizes enough with the rest of the deck to make her worth the slot. However it’s an option.
Ivy Lane Denizen can replenish our Druid, but we’d need another piece to combo with Ghave and keep a loop going.
You have to be creative here, but as long as we can find ways to put counters on the Druid, she has excellent synergy. Otherwise she’s good ramp. I like that she can play multiple roles which is why she’s on the list. Play around and see what you come up with. I’d love to add newly discovered interactions to the Primer.
Ivy Lane Denizen occurrence in decks from the last year
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