Creature — Eldrazi Drone
Devoid (This card has no colour.)
Whenever you cast a colourless spell, target opponent exiles the top card of his or her library.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Thought Harvester Discussion
5 months ago
seshiro_of_the_orochi oh but Thought Harvester is the linch pin! Paired with Glen Elendra Pranksters , a flash enabler, and enough cost reducers like Umori, the Collector to enable free morphs, the Harvester will exile all the opps' libraries.
I'm going to pull Humble Naturalist for the Vizier. That'll put us down to 8 mana dorks which is less ramp than I typically like, but the Vizier is worth it.
Thanks again for the great suggestions!
5 months ago
Looking through the list, I see no actual benefit from playing Thought Harvester . That one exiled card for each morph cast is fine, but won't give you that much of an advantage. It's a CMC4 slot, so replacing it with Vizier seems fine.
5 months ago
Cut: - Warped Landscape - Forsake the Worldly - Wilt - Rain of Revelation - Akroma's Vengeance - Cleansing Nova - Vastwood Surge - River's Rebuke - Font of Fertility - Hideous Visage - Garruk's Uprising
Add: - Wasteland Strangler - World Breaker - All Is Dust - Blisterpod - Decimator of the Provinces - Distended Mindbender - Elder Deep-Fiend - Eldrazi Displacer - Eldrazi Mimic - Eldrazi Obligator - Fathom Feeder - Oblivion Sower - Rapacious One - Thought Harvester - Sire of Stagnation - Tide Drifter - Vanquisher's Banner - Mystic Reflection - Pact of the Serpent - Blight Herder - Arcane Signet - Sol Ring - Thran Dynamo - Chromatic Lantern - Commander's Sphere - Fellwar Stone - Worn Powerstone - Coalition Relic - Hedron Archive - Path to Exile - Swords to Plowshares - Swan Song - Skyshroud Claim - Elemental Bond - Unified Will - Reflections of Littjara - Ugin, the Ineffable - Forsaken Monument - Pathrazer of Ulamog - Jodah, Archmage Eternal - Kozilek's Return - Crop Rotation - Chaos Warp - Painful Truths - Tempt with Discovery - Lightning Greaves - Court of Bounty - Cascading Cataracts
8 months ago
Thank you! I just love the Yu-Gi-Oh! theme here. Haha. The deck has only gotten better since I first built it, and it plays really well even if the bounce combo requires a lot of pieces and seems convoluted.
These are all interesting suggestions. Here are my thoughts on them:
Centaur Omenreader Not as good as our other cost reducers, I think, only because it has to be tapped. With Earthcraft it’s fine and a cheaper Ugin although the latter can also function as removal or card advantage which I think is worth the two additional mana. I think it could work if you play with more ways to tap creatures.
Tangleroot I like this one. It could help with storming off especially if we’re chaining creatures and digging through the library. Also infinite mana with our free bounce combo, but that’s win-more. Good card but not sure how I’d slot it in. Currently I don’t feel like I’m missing it, but it could definitely do work.
Glen Elendra Pranksters Faerie Tauntings While it’s true that we ideally want to play under Prophet of Kruphix, that doesn’t always happen. I feel these would be dead draws otherwise. I love the idea of having either out in magical Christmas land, though.
Glimpse of Nature Cheaper than Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project but only a sorcery. I’m not really feeling it only for the lack of reusability outside pulling it from the yard. That being said I can see this being a good play. This has the potential for some explosive draws for 1 mana which is nothing to turn your nose up at. In the right situations it could dig pretty hard. Personally I think I’d still prefer the permanents so I can continue digging on future turns including my opponents’.
Thought Harvester Basically this could be another finisher. I wouldn’t replace Aetherflux Reservoir or Words of Wind with it, but it could be an alternate to Altar of the Brood which I just replaced. They essentially function the same except this exiles the cards rather than milling them which is just better. Not for me, I think, but this easily a good card to have if someone wants to go that route.
Opposition This is not a bad idea. Could be another way to stall opponents or lock them out completely with enough morphs and Seedborn Muse. Slots have gotten really tight in this deck lately, but this is one I’d heavily consider.
All relevant suggestions and none I’d really consider before. Thanks for the added perspective!
1 year ago
Hi. Saw you asking for advice on the Animar Discord but didn't want to clog up the channel so I figured I'd leave some comments here. I'll try to focus on more budget friendly changes since you already know about the more expensive recommendations.
The first thing that stands out to me is that you've doubled down on a lot of redundancy of similar effects to make your combo options more consistent. Since you don't have Imperial Recruiter and Weird Harvest, I can see why you would do that for a more casual meta. What has happened though is that you have filled up slots that would normally go to the other cards that help Animar function faster. A number of cards could be trimmed out to put in important lower-curve cards.
To start with, you actually have too many combos in the deck that are clogging up cards slots. You already have Ancestral Statue + Walking Ballista, which is Animar's bread and butter. Competitive decks generally focus on assembling that as quickly as possible and protecting the combo.
The typical secondary combo line in cEDH Animar is the Kiri-Onna loop, but that requires you to put a lot of money into your mana base to make sure nearly all you lands produce blue mana for maximum efficiency, so lets skip that for now.
Another backup combo is Barrin, Master Wizard/Temur Sabertooth + Dockside Extortionist, which you already have. Barrin is generally favoured because of its versatility, but the Sabertooth works too and the combo can potentially produce infinite mana without Animar. The combo works well in the cEDH meta because of all the cheap mana rocks and enchantments that get played, but there's a chance it won't be as consistent in more casual metas.
In addition to the main combos, you often see Purphoros, God of the Forge as a backup kill condition. Since you have that too you are fairly well set for win-conditions.
On top of that though, you also currently have the Kiki/Twin combo package, Cloudstone Curio with a couple morph creatures and eldrazi, Deadeye Navigator + Peregrine Drake + Acidic Slime, and Oracle/Labman to win by decking off of "enchantress" effects like Beast Whisperer. You honestly don't need all of that. Some people may run Thassa's Oracle as an option for when damage might not win the game, but the rest could be heavily trimmed to make room for other important ramp and interaction.
So, cards to cut:
Deadeye Navigator is an easy cut. The higher cmc creatures clog up opening hands and force more mulligans. Cloudstone Curio can't be tutored for in your list, which makes it unreliable. Taking that out makes Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger unwanted. That leads to taking out Nettle Drone and Thought Harvester because they are just redundant effects that you already get with Ballista and Purphoros. Laboratory Maniac can come out because it will generally be a more fragile Thassa's Oracle. You could take the oracle out too because there are ways to just bounce and kill with Ballista, even when you are being forced to draw cards off of Glimpse of Nature or Beast Whisperer. I can see why you might want to leave that one in though.
The Kiki/twin package takes up a bunch of slots with cards that don't really do a whole lot on their own except for Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, which some people think is too unwieldy to cast consistently because of the RRR in its casting cost. Splinter Twin isn't tutorable in the deck, so it's unreliable. Bounding Krasis and Breaching Hippocamp are just redundant bodies that don't even have the same versatility in their effect that Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch, and even those can be a little lack-luster.
If you aren't looking to take all the unnecessary combos out, I can see leaving some of the Kiki stuff in as a 2-card combo that isn't reliant on Animar. Just Kiki, Pestermite, and Deceiver Exarch on their own is enough. If you want to double down on it a bit though, you can consider putting in Zealous Conscripts. With the Conscripts, you can open up a 1 turn combo line with Vannifar.
- Tap Prime Speaker Vannifar -> sac Glen Elendra Archmage -> Archmage returns to the battlefield because of persist -> get Zealous Conscripts and untap Vannifar -> tap Vannifar and sac the Archmage again to get Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to combo with the Conscripts. Birthing Pod can also work in place of Vannifar.
Other cards worth cutting are Guardian Project (can't be tutored or cost-reduced), Soul of the Harvest (expensive and Primordial Sage is better), Vigean Graftmage (don't have enough +1/+1 counter synergies for this to be worth the slot), Farhaven Elf (better off with a 1 CMC mana dork), Solemn Simulacrum (better off with a 1 CMC mana dork), Tidal Barracuda (it may protect you from counterspells on your turn, put there is just too much risk with letting your opponents cast all their stuff at instant speed on every other turn). There are other cards that could be cut, but those are the ones that really stand out.
To replace the cards you take out, you'll be wanting the 1 cmc mana dorks and mana acceleration that was recommended on Discord, some more card draw/cantrip creatures like Mulldrifter and Generous Patron, and some cheap/free counterspells.
Anyway, I know this is a long wall of text but I hope the feed back helps give you a place to start making tweaks to your deck. And, of course, the people on the Animar Discord are always happy to offer advice.
1 year ago
Cut. Now the Grace Period begins. Assuming what is stated to be true, these would be the final cuts still in the running:
Sultai Charm (I guess the Modes are alright?)
Ghastly Conscription (Maybe this isn't as bad as I thought...)
Villainous Wealth (How was I able to ignore this?)
Obscuring AEther (Another Morph Mana Support that can even Manifest Itself. Dang...)
Secret Plans (Yeah, give the Morphs, Megamorphs, & Manifests +0/+1 & flip them Face-Up for Card Advantage? BAM!)
1x Wilderness Reclamation (I dunno, I still like Seedborn Muse …)
Cabal Executioner (I, mean, we have effects that negate sacing enemy permanents now. Can't we have Destroy Target Creature"? Oh, wait, we have two in these colors, but "Destroy Target nonblack Creature" & Destroying one that's Power 3 of lower is lame. But how good is this guy?)
Eternal Witness (Wait, how the bloody hell is this lass here?!)
Qarsi Deceiver (A mana Dork for Morph Effects, but one said I should have enough anyway.)
Root Elemental (Playing a card for free is awesome; especially something REALLY good...)
Silent Specter (There are no Morph effects to forcibly make an opponent discard their whole hand. Might as well make due with a flier I guess...)
Temur War Shaman (Manifesting the Top Card? At least the Fight Mechanic is Optional...)
Thought Harvester (NANI?! An Eldrazi Mutilates my Upside Down Stuff?! I just hope I can mill everyone before I mill myself...)
Whisperwood Elemental (Manifesting at each of your End Steps is great. even Saccing them, even if you sac this guy just to have others die, at least we're getting more Manifestoes.)
Cloud Key (Sure, choosing Creatures would be prime here, but what about Enchantments? Artifacts? Instants? Sorceries? They're options as well.)
Cloudstone Curio (This is required to mill the crap of your opponents. But we've enough Draw Engines to the point where Words of Wind is mandatory; at least Thought Harvester doesn't care about card draw stuff though...)
1x Crystal Shard (Strictly WORSE than the Curio as it has a price, & only affects creatures.)
1x Dimir Signet (Is it worth adding in the Signets as well as the Talismans? I'll leave that to you all to decide...)
1x Golgari Signet (See Dimir Signet.)
1x Helm of Awakening (This is the only "Spells cost less to cast" card I could find, but it also benefits the opposition.)
Lightning Greaves (Maybe I should don these awesome greaves again. You agree?)
Scroll of Fate (What more do you want? A free Manifest, & you will always know it's a creature or not, WHY DID I CUT THIS?!)
1x Simic Signet (See Dimir Signet.)
Which deserve the final replacing's? I'm leaving this to you...
& I apologize for all this text; I just wanted to show what I do recommend, & otherwise.
2 years ago
Looking for any and all suggestions to make this better. Planning on updating to some fetches in the near future. Cards I'm contemplating on removing if I can find some better alternatives are Aetherflux Reservoir , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , one of either Altar of the Brood or Thought Harvester , Blasphemous Act , and maybe a few others
2 years ago
I don't really see a home for Thought Harvester in this deck. Is this for a backup mill strategy? I'm sure there is a recurring bounce line of play that I'm not seeing, but is it worth it? Purphoros, God of the Forge looks like your alt win con.
How often is Disrupt effective at stopping something after turn 3 or 4? It seems to me that if you don't have it in your opening hand that its a dead draw and I don't know how effective cantripping is going to be in this build. Either Swan Song or Stubborn Denial would probably be better in this slot if you want to keep X number of counters for the deck.
The deck is still a little heavy at the top end and I doubt this suggestion will go over well, but since he doesn't technically have 'annihilator', maybe cut Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger ?