Prime Speaker Vannifar
Legendary Creature — Elf Ooze Wizard
: Sacrifice another creature: Search your library for a creature card with converted mana cost equal to 1 plus the sacrifices creature’s converted mana cost, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. Activate this ability only at any time you could cast a sorcery.
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Prime Speaker Vannifar Discussion
2 weeks ago
This question is slightly off-topic, but why is it that Birthing Pod and Prime Speaker Vannifar can use their abilities only at any time that a sorcery could be cast? Did WotC decide that those abilities would be too powerful if they could be used at any time that an instant could be cast?
2 weeks ago
You're right, I might not have used gospel the right way. Let's analyze. So the question I copied was:
"A better question is: with artifacts already so incredibly strong, why would they ever consider offering them something that does the thing they already do best (fast mana) even better? What does the game stand to gain?" (Emphasis mine)
Where does it say that the card itself will be a better version of anything? Grubbernaut is talking about "doing the thing they already do" being better. An artifact for that would read: ": add for each artifact you control" would still be an artifact that does the things artifacts do even better. Because Tolarian Academy is banned in most formats, even an overpriced artifact that does exactly the same as Academy does the thing already better. Prime Speaker Vannifar does the pod thing better, since you're not even paying for activation, just . A card that does better does not equal a better card.
So I apologize for using the word gospel wrong, however historically, lots of battles and wars have been fought in the name of gospels that were mostly messages of love, so I stand by the comparison. You didn't even interpret the question right, even when you're defending it so valiantly.
2 weeks ago
plakjekaas: no offense, but he said "even better", but then in all the examples you mention, the new card is worse. Prime Speaker Vannifar is a worse Birthing Pod , Gilded Goose is a worse Birds of Paradise . instead imagine a better birthing pod or birds.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Grubbernaut "A better question is: with artifacts already so incredibly strong, why would they ever consider offering them something that does the thing they already do best (fast mana) even better? What does the game stand to gain?"
Well that's easy to answer, lots of cards are printed whose only function is: "hey, remember this broken old card that was really good in other formats in the past? Wanna play with it again?" Like Prime Speaker Vannifar is referring to Birthing Pod , Gilded Goose being a warped Birds of Paradise , Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip as Gaea's Cradle , every Magus of the XXX ever, etc.
Nostalgia sells packs.
1 month ago
I don't really see why you should be running Breaching Hippocamp if you aren't running Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or the Prime Speaker Vannifar combo lines. Both of those cards are pretty good in a Yasova deck anyways (Kiki inf combos with Zealous Conscripts and Coercive Recruiter , while Vannifar is a good sac outlet for stolen creatures) so maybe you could find some room for them.
2 months ago
- The first combo uses Altar of Dementia + Kaya's Ghostform + Muldrotha, the Gravetide . How this combo works is you play Kaya's Ghostform on Muldrotha, the Gravetide then sacrifice her to Altar of Dementia targeting an opponent. In order for this combo to truly go infinite is by also having either Pitiless Plunderer or Lotus Petal in play to use for the one black mana on Kaya's Ghostform .
- The second combo that I find to be the easiest to pull off is Demonic Consultation + Thassa's Oracle . This one is pretty self explainatory; you play Thassa's Oracle than before it resolves you play Demonic Consultation naming a card that is not in your deck. After you exile your graveyard, everything resolves and you win! This also works with Jace, Wielder of Mysteries in place of Thassa's Oracle
- The last combo is Muldrotha, the Gravetide + Llanowar Elves + Timestream Navigator + Prime Speaker Vannifar. This combo is the most complicated so here we go. First things first, you need all four creatures on the battlefield with no summoning sickness, as well as having enough permanents for the city's blessing. Next, you activate Timestream Navigator , taking an extra turn. While you are still on the first turn you float a green with Llanowar Elves then sacrifice the elves to Prime Speaker Vannifar . With Prime Speaker Vannifar you go and find Timestream Navigator and then recast Llanowar Elves with the floating green mana. After this, you should have infinite turns, which you should be able to pull a with.
On the planeswalker front Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is super good as a wincon. Value-wise Ashiok, Dream Render , Tamiyo, Collector of Tales , Teferi, Master of Time , and our favorite elk friend Oko, Thief of Crowns all work really well with Muldrotha. Check out my Muldrotha for more card suggestions here