DemonDragonJ

Thanks! I wouldn't mind an upvote on the main deck either if you have a moment. ;)

You have my upvote.

And my folder save.

And my comment!

thegreenbean

Tutorless version is a go! I've linked it in the Theory Crafting section of the primer.

fudgeboii

Thank you very much!

I actually had considered Laboratory Maniac for a win con before Oracle was printed but decided not to since outside of finishing the game it does nothing. Oracle basically has the same problem. All my other win cons function as value outside of the win.

I actually never bounce Guardian Project. When I need to stop drawing cards, Kadena and Beast Whisperer bounce with no problem, but then I just destroy Project with Nantuko Vigilante. It’s the simplest way to get rid of it.

Either way I think the situation is niche enough to not need a contingency for it in the form of a wincon especially if it does nothing when I’m setting up. Besides it’s not like I’m running Demonic Consultation where I’d want Oracle as my primary win.

king-saproling

Thank you! I just love the Yu-Gi-Oh! theme here. Haha. The deck has only gotten better since I first built it, and it plays really well even if the bounce combo requires a lot of pieces and seems convoluted.

These are all interesting suggestions. Here are my thoughts on them:

Centaur Omenreader Not as good as our other cost reducers, I think, only because it has to be tapped. With Earthcraft it’s fine and a cheaper Ugin although the latter can also function as removal or card advantage which I think is worth the two additional mana. I think it could work if you play with more ways to tap creatures.

Tangleroot I like this one. It could help with storming off especially if we’re chaining creatures and digging through the library. Also infinite mana with our free bounce combo, but that’s win-more. Good card but not sure how I’d slot it in. Currently I don’t feel like I’m missing it, but it could definitely do work.

Glen Elendra Pranksters Faerie Tauntings While it’s true that we ideally want to play under Prophet of Kruphix, that doesn’t always happen. I feel these would be dead draws otherwise. I love the idea of having either out in magical Christmas land, though.

Glimpse of Nature Cheaper than Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project but only a sorcery. I’m not really feeling it only for the lack of reusability outside pulling it from the yard. That being said I can see this being a good play. This has the potential for some explosive draws for 1 mana which is nothing to turn your nose up at. In the right situations it could dig pretty hard. Personally I think I’d still prefer the permanents so I can continue digging on future turns including my opponents’.

Thought Harvester Basically this could be another finisher. I wouldn’t replace Aetherflux Reservoir or Words of Wind with it, but it could be an alternate to Altar of the Brood which I just replaced. They essentially function the same except this exiles the cards rather than milling them which is just better. Not for me, I think, but this easily a good card to have if someone wants to go that route.

Opposition This is not a bad idea. Could be another way to stall opponents or lock them out completely with enough morphs and Seedborn Muse. Slots have gotten really tight in this deck lately, but this is one I’d heavily consider.

All relevant suggestions and none I’d really consider before. Thanks for the added perspective!

thegreenbean

That’s good to hear! Thanks for the appreciation! I have not made a tutorless version yet, but it’s something that has been buried in my to-do list. I’ll have to prioritize making that list since I’ve put it off for so long. Thanks for asking about it.

But in the meantime you can basically replace the tutors with more redundancy in the combo pieces and/or more card draw so either way you just draw into a win. It would also be fun to play around with more combo abusers if all those slots opened up. Not to mention the number of possible combos would skyrocket which is the main reason I’d want to have such a list.

Check out the Single Card Discussion section and my budget list for ideas. I’ll see how soon I can throw together a tutorless version.

KayneMarco

You can find it at the end of alexjustdoit’s primer here:

[Primer] Political Subterfuge - Marchesa Aikido

I could also send you an invite, but that would expire in a day. The one on his deck page will always take you there.

Thanks for the explanation, PookandPie. I hadn’t seen Tech0verlord’s question yet. I’m now wondering if I should edit that section to be more clear.

darklord1135

The list had to evolve to keep up with a higher powered meta which unfortunately made it stray from the aikido philosophy discussed in the primer.

Take a look at alexjustdoit’s primer and join the discord! We’ve got lots of varying lists based on this one.

[Primer] Political Subterfuge - Marchesa Aikido