Creature — Horse Fish
Flash When Breaching Hippocamp enters the battlefield, untap another target creature you control.
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Breaching Hippocamp Discussion
1 month ago
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1 month ago
Hi. Saw you asking for advice on the Animar Discord but didn't want to clog up the channel so I figured I'd leave some comments here. I'll try to focus on more budget friendly changes since you already know about the more expensive recommendations.
The first thing that stands out to me is that you've doubled down on a lot of redundancy of similar effects to make your combo options more consistent. Since you don't have Imperial Recruiter and Weird Harvest, I can see why you would do that for a more casual meta. What has happened though is that you have filled up slots that would normally go to the other cards that help Animar function faster. A number of cards could be trimmed out to put in important lower-curve cards.
To start with, you actually have too many combos in the deck that are clogging up cards slots. You already have Ancestral Statue + Walking Ballista, which is Animar's bread and butter. Competitive decks generally focus on assembling that as quickly as possible and protecting the combo.
The typical secondary combo line in cEDH Animar is the Kiri-Onna loop, but that requires you to put a lot of money into your mana base to make sure nearly all you lands produce blue mana for maximum efficiency, so lets skip that for now.
Another backup combo is Barrin, Master Wizard/Temur Sabertooth + Dockside Extortionist, which you already have. Barrin is generally favoured because of its versatility, but the Sabertooth works too and the combo can potentially produce infinite mana without Animar. The combo works well in the cEDH meta because of all the cheap mana rocks and enchantments that get played, but there's a chance it won't be as consistent in more casual metas.
In addition to the main combos, you often see Purphoros, God of the Forge as a backup kill condition. Since you have that too you are fairly well set for win-conditions.
On top of that though, you also currently have the Kiki/Twin combo package, Cloudstone Curio with a couple morph creatures and eldrazi, Deadeye Navigator + Peregrine Drake + Acidic Slime, and Oracle/Labman to win by decking off of "enchantress" effects like Beast Whisperer. You honestly don't need all of that. Some people may run Thassa's Oracle as an option for when damage might not win the game, but the rest could be heavily trimmed to make room for other important ramp and interaction.
So, cards to cut:
Deadeye Navigator is an easy cut. The higher cmc creatures clog up opening hands and force more mulligans. Cloudstone Curio can't be tutored for in your list, which makes it unreliable. Taking that out makes Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger unwanted. That leads to taking out Nettle Drone and Thought Harvester because they are just redundant effects that you already get with Ballista and Purphoros. Laboratory Maniac can come out because it will generally be a more fragile Thassa's Oracle. You could take the oracle out too because there are ways to just bounce and kill with Ballista, even when you are being forced to draw cards off of Glimpse of Nature or Beast Whisperer. I can see why you might want to leave that one in though.
The Kiki/twin package takes up a bunch of slots with cards that don't really do a whole lot on their own except for Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, which some people think is too unwieldy to cast consistently because of the RRR in its casting cost. Splinter Twin isn't tutorable in the deck, so it's unreliable. Bounding Krasis and Breaching Hippocamp are just redundant bodies that don't even have the same versatility in their effect that Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch, and even those can be a little lack-luster.
If you aren't looking to take all the unnecessary combos out, I can see leaving some of the Kiki stuff in as a 2-card combo that isn't reliant on Animar. Just Kiki, Pestermite, and Deceiver Exarch on their own is enough. If you want to double down on it a bit though, you can consider putting in Zealous Conscripts. With the Conscripts, you can open up a 1 turn combo line with Vannifar.
- Tap Prime Speaker Vannifar -> sac Glen Elendra Archmage -> Archmage returns to the battlefield because of persist -> get Zealous Conscripts and untap Vannifar -> tap Vannifar and sac the Archmage again to get Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to combo with the Conscripts. Birthing Pod can also work in place of Vannifar.
Other cards worth cutting are Guardian Project (can't be tutored or cost-reduced), Soul of the Harvest (expensive and Primordial Sage is better), Vigean Graftmage (don't have enough +1/+1 counter synergies for this to be worth the slot), Farhaven Elf (better off with a 1 CMC mana dork), Solemn Simulacrum (better off with a 1 CMC mana dork), Tidal Barracuda (it may protect you from counterspells on your turn, put there is just too much risk with letting your opponents cast all their stuff at instant speed on every other turn). There are other cards that could be cut, but those are the ones that really stand out.
To replace the cards you take out, you'll be wanting the 1 cmc mana dorks and mana acceleration that was recommended on Discord, some more card draw/cantrip creatures like Mulldrifter and Generous Patron, and some cheap/free counterspells.
Anyway, I know this is a long wall of text but I hope the feed back helps give you a place to start making tweaks to your deck. And, of course, the people on the Animar Discord are always happy to offer advice.
2 months ago
I love taking a pile of cards and seeing what you can turn it into! I don't know which cards you have or what budget you have for acquiring new ones, but I'll list some cheap suggestions I have for a variety of archetypes you could pursue.
1) Simic ramp: Already goes well with Air Elemental, Archetype of Endurance, Oakgnarl Warrior, Overgrown Battlement, Yavimaya Wurm, Simic Keyrune. Some inclusions might be Llanowar Elves, Axebane Guardian, Coiling Oracle, Maraleaf Pixie, Beanstalk Giant, Terra Stomper, Lorthos, the Tidemaker. The goal is to accelerate into big threats.
2) U/G unblockable: Already goes well with Marang River Prowler, Downpour, Giant Growth, Might of the Masses, Aqueous Form, Coastal Piracy, Turntimber Grove. Some inclusions might be Curious Obsession, Daring Saboteur, Mist-Syndicate Naga, Ohran Viper, Trygon Predator, Distortion Strike. The goal is to get value from hitting with unblocked creatures.
3) U/G tempo/control: Already goes well with Breaching Hippocamp, Cloaked Siren, Mist Raven, Fog, Negate, Unsummon, Voyage's End, Claustrophobia. Some inclusions might be Vapor Snag, Dissolve, Mana Leak, AEtherling, Delver of Secrets Flip, Devastation Tide. The goal is to deny the opponent their things while playing tricky threats of your own.
I also see cards in here that could work with mono green Assault Formation, simic +1/+1 synergy, or flying tribal, so you have a lot of options. As a sidenote, I'd also recommend upping your land count to about 24 while you have so many 5+ cost cards in the deck. Anyway, good luck!
5 months ago
Zwolfe64 as has been said, for consistency, but also because you need to have certain cards inside the deck itself. if you end up with two Breaching Hippocamp in hand, for example, you'll not be able to perform the combo.
9 months ago
On the one hand: I'm excited to see Huddle Up in more decks than just mine.
On the other hand: it's objectively a bad card and probably shouldn't be in a deck unless you're trying to lean into group hug.
10 months ago
Hi I love the deck :)
I am not used to pod decks though and I am struggling to get my head round the end of the combo.
At the end I think you have:
Prime Speaker Vannifar 2/4 tapped
Renegade Rallier 3/2
Corridor Monitor 1/4
Samut, Voice of Dissent 3/4 tapped
Verdurous Gearhulk 4/4 (and 4 additional power)
for a total of 20 power of which 5 of it is tapped?
I'm sure I'm missing something, could you point out to what it is?
11 months ago
Just to say it, I personally hate infinite combos. I try to avoid them in my decks (except for long, over-complicated ones); however, if you're looking to do better and win harder and faster, then Parun is perfect.
I know that this will raise your budget by a little bit, but if you're looking for combos to win off of, I would suggest adding Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to your deck as well as a few combo pieces to go along with him. I'll list a few combo pieces:
- Helm of the Host . Make it to declare attackers step, copy Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and then the copy can clone itself (as it has haste). Though this doesn't win the game itself, creating 1 million Kiki-Jikis can get you close. But, if you have the next card on the list, then you should be able to win
- Intruder Alarm . Basically, copy a creature and then untap Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker . Infinite of any non-legend and attack with all of them to win assuming no interaction
- Breaching Hippocamp , Deceiver Exarch , Pestermite , and Corridor Monitor . All of these allow you to untap Kiki as you clone them and then attack with 1 million of those guys.
I think that all of those also work with Splinter Twin which is a bit cheaper.
Enter the Infinite is also quite good. If you have Parun out, you deal a lot of damage with his ability. Usually, it's easiest to cast that spell if you have Omniscience which then allows you to play your whole deck for free. Easiest way to win from there is to play Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and +1.
The only other thing I can recommend is more wheels I suppose that's not just straight upgrades (I understand that budgets are a thing lol). Wheels allow you to find your combo pieces faster while also allowing you to do some damage with Parun. If you really want to make your wheels that much better and are willing to really extend on the budget, you could add Mind Over Matter and Dream Halls .
I'd make sure you actually enjoy playing infinite combos as well as make sure that you have an extra deck with you if you play a lot of the cards I recommended. A lot of people (myself included) don't enjoy games that last as long as shuffling your deck.
Regardless, best of luck with your deck!
1 year ago
I recommend this line with Prime Speaker Vannifar :
1-drop -> Corridor Monitor -> Deceiver Exarch -> Breaching Hippocamp -> Phyrexian Delver for Breaching Hippocamp -> Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker copy Phyrexian Delver for Deceiver Exarch untap Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to copy Deceiver Exarch over and over!