Vesuvan Shapeshifter

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Custom Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2019 (C19) Rare
Masters 25 (A25) None
Time Spiral (TSP) Rare

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Vesuvan Shapeshifter

Creature — Shapeshifter

As Vesuvan Shapeshifter enters the battlefield or is turned face up, you may choose another creature on the battlefield. If you do, until Vesuvan Shapeshifter is turned face down, it becomes a copy of that creature and gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, you may turn this creature face down."

Morph (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for . Turn it face up at any time for its morph cost.)

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Vesuvan Shapeshifter Discussion

Database82 on It's Morph Fun For Everyone!

1 month ago

Thanks for the feedback,

While Ghastly Conscription is a more expensive card to play, I've never run into an issue with mana to play it. From the several games I played with an incomplete version of the deck I've still managed to ramp enough where it isn't an issue. So sure they can try to RIP, but the deck has enough answers to either counter or remove RIP.

I agree that Vesuvan Shapeshifter isn't stax Brine Elemental is and he's in the deck to interact together locking down the board preventing players from untapping.

I do agree card draw could maybe be potentially better and am entertaining the idea of cutting Aphetto Runecaster for a Rhystic Study or Mystic Remora

As for instant interaction my commander doesn't necessarily need to be on the board for me to make use of the the morph abilities. She simply allows me to cast one more spell for free. I'd still be able to morph at instant speed to counter spells, but perhaps you can elaborate further on what you mean?

There's a reason I don't run board wipes in the deck. It generally causes more harm to my field than good, while the deck can recover quick enough in the instances of a board wipe I opt not to run it as I have more than enough responses to counter what may potentially be a threat. Other than the rift, I run Bane of the Living .

Not sure how in depth you looked it over, but there is definitely a method to my madness. :D Most of the deck has a lot of interaction, but if you could provide some card suggestions of what you would constitute as generically good cards I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks

Database82 on nursejason

1 month ago

Thanks for the feedback,

While Ghastly Conscription is a more expensive card to play, I've never run into an issue with mana to play it. From the several games I played with an incomplete version of the deck I've still managed to ramp enough where it isn't an issue. So sure they can try to RIP, but the deck has enough answers to either counter or remove RIP.

I agree that Vesuvan Shapeshifter isn't stax Brine Elemental is and he's in the deck to interact together locking down the board preventing players from untapping.

I do agree card draw could maybe be potentially better and am entertaining the idea of cutting Aphetto Runecaster for a Rhystic Study or Mystic Remora

As for instant interaction my commander doesn't necessarily need to be on the board for me to make use of the the morph abilities. She simply allows me to cast one more spell for free. I'd still be able to morph at instant speed to counter spells, but perhaps you can elaborate further on what you mean?

There's a reason I don't run board wipes in the deck. It generally causes more harm to my field than good, while the deck can recover quick enough in the instances of a board wipe I opt not to run it as I have more than enough responses to counter what may potentially be a threat. Other than the rift, I run Bane of the Living .

Not sure how in depth you looked it over, but there is definitely a method to my madness. :D Most of the deck has a lot of interaction, but if you could provide some card suggestions of what you would constitute as generically good cards I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks again!

multimedia on Morph than meets the eye.

1 month ago

Hey, nice changes to the precon, but I feel you've left out the thing most missing from the precon, early game ramp.

Kadena is an engine, but that engine can't get started until you can cast her from the Command Zone. It doesn't make sense to cast Morphs before you have Kadena on the battlefield because then you're missing out on the advantage that Kadena gives you, the whole point of the deck. Consider adding early game ramp to get four drop Kadena onto the battlefield faster?

Kadena being a four drop is helpful with early game ramp because a single two drop mana rock ( Talisman of Resilience ), one drop mana dork ( Elves of Deep Shadow ) or two drop land ramp spell ( Farseek ) lets you most likely play Kadena turn three. However you want to consistently be able to do this therefore you want a nice number of early game ramp cards. Definitely more than two which is currently here. Kadena is three colors which makes colorless ramp less appealing than colored ramp because again you want to get her onto the battlefield before you cast Morphs.

Ramp package to consider adding:

Cards to consider cutting for this ramp package:

  • Scaretiller
  • Pendant of Prosperity
  • Rayami. First of the Fallen
  • Silent-Blade Oni
  • Volrath, the Shapestealer
  • Leadership Vacuum

These suggested cuts are cutting high mana cost cards for low mana cost cards to help to speed up gameplay.


The combo of Brine Elemental and Vesuvan Shapeshifter is a good reason to play Kadena because she can cheat the mana cost of these Morphs thus you can assemble the combo faster. Consider adding cards that can help to get Brine and Vesuvan into your hand? Fauna Shaman is great since she can be a repeatable creature tutor. She requires that you discard a creature to then tutor for another creature from your library. She alone if left alive can get both Brine and Vesuvan into your hand.

Fauna + Den Protector + ways to bounce Protector back to your hand ( Echo Tracer ) is helpful to tutor for and get certain Morphs into your hand. Vesuvan can copy Protector on your turn which is great when you have Morphs to recur from your graveyard. Protector can then be used to recur the creature you discarded. Fauna can tutor for Protector. With Morphs and Kadena this can be an engine to get Morphs into your hand to then cast for free on your turn or even your opponents' turns. It's also a fairly budget package since this appears to be a budget deck, that's important.

Cards to consider adding to help to get Brine and Vesuvan:

Cards to consider cutting:

  • Grismold, the Dreadsower
  • Obelisk Spider
  • Broodhatch Nantuko
  • Sudden Substitution

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on

2 months ago

Hey, nice version.

I don't think you need all of Vedalken Orrery , Leyline of Anticipation and Vivien, Champion of the Wilds . While each of these flash enablers are good, once you have one on the battlefield then others can can be dead cards. Vivien is by far the best of the three since the main reason you want flash is for morphs and she does more than just giving flash she can help to find morphs. Consider cutting Orrery for a Diabolic Intent or budget Diabolic Tutor ? A tutor can get a flash enabler or one of Vesuvan Shapeshifter / Brine Elemental to combo or one of Scroll of Fate / Seedborn Muse or just a card you want in a certain game play situation, etc. This is more flexible and being flexible is very good in Commander.

Paradoxical Outcome is a good card for a bounce theme. Instant bounce morphs or manifests back to your hand to play them again while also drawing cards equal to the amount of cards you bounced. Bounce manifests that are face down instants/sorceries allowing you to then cast those spells from your hand.

Another interaction that's like bounce is flicker, Ghostly Flicker . With Ghostly if you exile a manifested face down permanent card then it enters the battlefield (ETB) face up like it was never a manifest in the first place. This a way to cheat permanent cards onto the battlefield and very good with Scroll of Fate since with Scroll you have control over what you manifest and it's no mana cost manifest.

Good luck with your deck.

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Commander 2019...

2 months ago

Staizer - Get ready for a long response:

I did look at the same list as you did, but as a longtime morph player, this deck is a disappointment. I've already made my thoughts on Kadena clear so I'll make that response short.

Kadena:

A bland Sultai value engine that brings nothing new to the table. She isn't a bad card by any means, but she doesn't address any of morph's biggest weaknesses. I'd still play Animar, Soul of Elements , Kruphix, God of Horizons , Muldrotha, the Gravetide , and maybe even the new Bant brawl commander over her.

The choice of morph/manifest related reprints

Some fine inclusions. Ixidron , Stratus Dancer , and Vesuvan Shapeshifter are nice, but they chose to exclude most of the best morph/manifest related cards: Dream Chisel , Ixidor, Reality Sculptor , Whisperwood Elemental , Riptide Entrancer , Voidmage Prodigy , Voidmage Apprentice , Aphetto Runecaster , Primordial Mist , Obscuring AEther , Unblinking Bleb , Weaver of Lies , Brine Elemental (though this one actually makes sense), and even Backslide . I would never expect all or even most of those to make it into the deck, but a couple would've been nice and would've made more sense than something like Deathmist Raptor or Silumgar Assassin .

Value reprints

Not much to complain about here as there is some solid value in the deck, though I think Cloudstone Curio or Equilibrium would've been good value reprints that interact well with the theme mechanic.

New cards

Only Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer are worth mentioning here. I know I sound like a broken record, but none of the new cards help address the issues facing morph: speed and the fact that morph is a value based mechanic that requires a massive mana investment. Morph will always be a casual mechanic, but it needs something that reduces the cost of triggering morph, or something that allows for multiple activations (my hope was for repeatable Backslide effects). Neither of those issues were addressed by the new cards in this deck. I would've been happy with just 1 card that helps in that way...1 card.

Is this a good pre-con for new players? Yes. Does it have value? Yes, though most of the value cards are only that way due to scarcity. I think many will end up tanking in price. Will it win games against the other pre-cons? Probably. Will it win games against even 60% decks? Unlikely.

So is it a good pre-con and I am being extra critical? Maybe, but this mechanic has had a special place in my heart for a very long time (Morph was first introduced when I was a little kid and just starting out playing Magic). I was excited to see morph finally get some needed reprints and support. Instead the new cards aren't that inspiring and the reprints honestly look like they just pulled up Gatherer, typed in "morph", and then picked some of the first things that they found.

griffstick on Morph cards to pick up ...

2 months ago

Dream Chisel is already up from It's original price. So that's a card you should get for sure. Vesuvan Shapeshifter definitely. That one is a combo peice with Brine Elemental . Pick that one up too. Also Animar, Soul of Elements might see a price spike as well.

But be care with all those cards. They might already be in the morph deck.

And for the flashback deck you might want to pick up Catalyst Stone

That card has also already spiked 6 dollars.

dwilkes827 on Animar Uber Alles

3 months ago

Looking for any and all suggestions to make this better. Planning on updating to some fetches in the near future. Cards I'm contemplating on removing if I can find some better alternatives are Aetherflux Reservoir , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , one of either Altar of the Brood or Thought Harvester , Blasphemous Act , and maybe a few others

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