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Ovinize Discussion

Stardragon on Help with Oko trickery

1 month ago

Looking for more cards like Kenrith's Transformation for my wonky transmog deck

so far I have Beast Within, Dance of the Skywise,Gift of Tusks,Mordenkainen's Polymorph,Ovinize,Polymorphist's Jest,Pongify,Rampage of the Clans,Rapid Hybridization,Snakeform,Startling Development,Turn to Frog,Frogify,Ichthyomorphosis,Lignify,Curse of the Swine,Transmogrifying Wand,Oko, Thief of Crowns and Terastodon in my main deck and

Here's a Link to my deck in case you need it Transforming Oneself . PS. if you think of clever or funny name for this let know as well

DemonDragonJ on Does WotC Even Care About …

6 months ago

The color pie is one of the central elements of this game, or, at least, that is what WotC has stated on multiple occasions, but I cannot help but wonder if they truly care about that, given some of the cards that they have been printing, in recent years.

Cards such as Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Curse of the Swine , and, most recently, Ravenform , Resculpt , and Oversimplify all are blue cards that destroy or exile creatures, which is supposed to be blue’s major weakness; that it can delay threats, but not stop them entirely. If those cards returned the creatures to their owners’ hands, shuffled them into their owners’ libraries, or temporarily transformed them, as does Ovinize , they would be acceptable, but, in their current form, they go against the philosophy of blue being the least aggressive and combative color; blue is the best color for countering spells, so its deliberate weakness is that it has trouble dealing with permanents that have successfully entered the battlefield.

I feel that I should also mention Beast Within , in this thread, because one of green’s major weaknesses is that it is not supposed to be able to unconditionally destroy creatures, being the most creature-centric color of the game. WotC eventually did print Generous Gift , a white version of that card, which is not a break, since white is allowed to destroy any type of permanent due it having the least emphasis on card advantage of all the colors, but that card has been reprinted only once, whereas WotC has reprinted Beast Within numerous times, including in the most recent Commander set.

Even worse, all of these breaks are examples of green and blue intruding into white’s territory, yet, WotC has not printed any white counterspells in years and has been very slow in providing white with methods of card advantage that work within that color’s philosophy.

I am sorry if I am ranting, but this is severely frustrating, to me, especially since white is my favorite color in the game, and I also worry that newer players to the game will think that it is acceptable for blue to have such efficient creature removal, since those cards have existed since they began playing the game. Hopefully, if a sufficient number of players complain, WotC shall realize that they are undermining a central aspect of the game, and stop doing it.

What does everyone else here have to say about this? Does WotC care about the color pie, at all, anymore?

LostAlgorithm on Illusory Transformation - *Advice Wanted!*

11 months ago

That combo is a lot of mana in one turn, but it sounds fun! "I turn all your dudes to frogs and wash them away with the tide!"

Jace, Cunning Castaway does look pretty useful and definitely on-theme. How many should I run though?

And I suppose I do have Ovinize for at least some of the more mana intensive threats. This should be a pretty fast deck, so Repeal seems to make more sense to me. The cantrip is definitely nice, especially since I can see myself summoning through most of my cards quickly.

Current plan is just to have a fun deck that I can play with. I definitely would like to at least do some FNM or something though, so sideboard is something that certainly needs some work too. I just wanted to get the core idea down first.

Cloudius on King-Ping

1 year ago

Mj3913 Thanks for the suggestions and upvote!

Yeah Pingers are nostalgic if we started in the early days of magic.

Am still tweaking this deck so more suggestions are welcomed if you've them. Humiliator is an awesome card but fulfilling Metalcraft might be a challenge for this deck. I was originally considering one time mass effects like Polymorphist's Jest and Mass Diminish but eventually went with repeatable ones like Ovinize on Scepter and Warkite Marauder.

Phaetion on

1 year ago

I think you can only run instants and sorceries as the signature spells, I'm afraid. I'd move Kenrith's Transformation to the mainboard, then run Ovinize as the signature spell.

Also, have you considered Rapid Hybridization for a redundant Pongify ?

wereotter on

2 years ago

If you're still making considerations, I would look at Ovinize instead of Turn to Frog . Both are instant speed, but one makes the creature a 0/1 while the other is a 1/1. This could make a difference if the creature you want to steal is equipped or enchanted.

If you do go this route, I would also recommend do-nothing artifacts to swap like Darksteel Relic , Sigil of Distinction , or Sphere of the Suns . Also Master of Waves will let you swap a 1/0 elemental to your opponent that will die as soon as you give it to them, and Bronze Bombshell will explode for 7 damage while you keep their creature.

SideBae on Yet another Oona, queen of the EDH

2 years ago

So, I have a couple suggestions. I found this deck under the 'help' tab, but your description doesn't ask for help. So please forgive me if I sound presumptuous.

  1. Preordain . Ponder and Brainstorm are already in your deck, and Preordain will help dig to lands if you need them, and past lands if you don't. One-mana cantrips are some of the best cards for getting a deck more powerful. Importantly, running more cantrips means that you can cut a land or two, meaning your deck will have a higher average card power.

  2. Your mana-base has room for improvement. Watery Grave is great, especially if you end up running fetch lands. Zendikar/Onslaught fetches like Polluted Delta or Misty Rainforest are easily the best fetches, but slow-type like Bad River and Rocky Tar Pit can also be useful. Also, consider Prismatic Vista . With a high concentration of land-based shuffle effects, Brainstorm becomes more and more powerful. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are good substitutes. Sunken Hollow and Fetid Pools are also fetch-able. Other duals, like Underground River , Morphic Pool and Choked Estuary are also good.

  3. In non-green EDH decks, artifact ramp is of prime importance. Talisman of Dominance , Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone and Thought Vessel are all great. Two-mana rocks are significantly better than three-mana rocks in EDH, as by the time you have three mana you usually want to do more powerful things than cast a rock. Additionally, if you end up running Ancient Tomb or Mana Crypt (which are hard to get ahold of), you can land a two-mana rock turn-one. Mana Vault also happens to be busted.

  4. In magic, it happens that it's a LOT easier to exile your deck than an opponent's. Jace, Wielder of Mysteries works great in Doomsday -style decks; if you're smarter than me, you can probably use Doomsday to tutor up your infinite mana combo. More simply, you can just cast Demonic Consultation with Jace, Wielder of Mysteries on the table, naming a card not in your deck (I generally use Atog or Singing Tree ), and then draw a card to win. So you may want to include Demonic Consultation and/or Doomsday , the latter if you have a lot of power in the brain-thingy.

  5. I see you're running Ashiok, Dream Render ; I love that card. Narset, Parter of Veils is also worth running, especially if you choose to include Windfall . Narset's been kicking ass in Vintage recently, and I have found her to be completely nuts in EDH.

  6. I may be missing something, but I am unsure as to why you're running Seat of the Synod and Vault of Whispers . If you had a Mox Opal in the list they might make more sense, but as things stand I think they're just worse than Island s and Swamp s. Back to Basics , Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon , By Force , Null Rod , Stony Silence and Collector Ouphe are all rampant in EDH (at least in my experience), so I think you'd be better off cutting the artifact-lands.

  7. Vision Skeins is an interesting include; you may be interested in running Words of Wisdom , which gets your opponents less out of the card. Also, if you run Notion Thief , the card is pure value. Note also that Vision Skeins becomes Words of Wisdom if you have Narset, Parter of Veils out.

  8. Ovinize is worse than Rapid Hybridization or Pongify , in my opinion. I think you should run two to three boardwipes -- Cyclonic Rift , Toxic Deluge and Damnation are the best ones, I think, with Toxic Deluge on top (you can cast it while Gaddock Teeg is down).

  9. Demonic Tutor is the best tutor, and Scheming Symmetry is good in a deck heavy in mill effects. There're some other good tutors to consider, of varying price: Vampiric Tutor , Diabolic Tutor , Fabricate (to get Isochron Scepter ), Mystical Tutor (for your Dramatic Reversal ), Dark Petition , Beseech the Queen , Mastermind's Acquisition and Lim-Dul's Vault are all good. Ideally, you wouldn't include the four-mana tutors, since they tend to take a whole turn to resolve. I suggest running around two or three more tutors than you have now.

  10. There're a couple of ways to generate card-advantage that I think are worth including in a final list of this deck. I'm not entirely certain how the deck plays, but if you have Oona, Queen of the Fae out frequently without an infinite-mana combo, Skullclamp is definitely worth including. Sticking it on one of your faerie tokens means butt-loads of card-advantage. Slate of Ancestry is similarly good if you tend to have a high creature-count. Fact or Fiction and Chemister's Insight are alright instant-speed card-draw. Phyrexian Arena is a good piece of permanent-based card-draw, and Dark Confidant , if you have access to it, is great with your low average CMC. Speaking of low CMC, Ad Nauseam is a great card-draw spell; I recommend including it for the high-value card-draw.

  11. If you want to pour money in here, Cavern of Souls is a great way to make sure your general isn't countered.

  12. There're a few counterspells you don't have that I think you might find useful. Counterspell itself is good, and it's far pricier cousin, Mana Drain , is also great. Spell Snare , Swan Song and Flusterstorm are all great counters as well. Turn Aside is one I've thought about but never used... you may want to consider it.

  13. If you choose to keep mainly basics and avoid the duals mentioned in (2), consider Back to Basics . The card is under $10 nowadays, and it's a great way to punish greedy mana bases.

Ok! That's all I got. Good luck, man!

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