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Spell Snare Discussion
1 week ago
Here are my thoughts - many of these have already been echoed by Balaam__ above.
Modern is a very fast format. Most miderange decks typically want to be running cards with cmc between 1-3, with a very few cards at cmc4 (look at Jund, for example, that only runs Bloodbraid Elf and then lots of low-costing cards). In that vein, I think you need to look at lowering your curve. I get that some of your cards can be cast for cheaper with Prowl, but I think you'd only want to keep the very best of these.
On the above note, personally I would drop Zareth San, the Trickster and Notorious Throng entirely. Their cost is waaay too high, especially in a deck with 22 lands, and they don't do enough to justify their spots. I would also drop a few Earwig Squad - it feels like you want to be playing either 2 or 3.... maybe mainboard 2 and have a 3rd in the sideboard against decks that you really need to disable?
I would echo what has already been said above that some good cmc1 cards would be very useful to the the deck. Consider Fatal Push , Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek . You probably want at least 8ish cards that are 1cmc so your first turn isn't wasted.
On the subject of lands, I would recommend swapping both Sunken Hollow and Rogue's Passage for both of Darkslick Shores and Drowned Catacomb . The Hollow just has too many scenarios where it's going to slow you down, and the Passage is both going to hurt your mana base, and be unlikely to get any benefits (you need 5 lands in play and nothing else to do, to make use of it). If the beforementioned cards are too expensive, i'd suggest just running basics over what's happening now.
If you have the money, I'd strongly suggest ditching Thieves' Fortune in place of Aether Vial . It'll make your deck multiple-times stronger than where it is now, and and also Vial will be able to slot seamlessly into any other future tribal-based decks you make, if that is your preferred way of playing. Another option for this deck in particular could be Bitterblossom . I do think Thieves' Fortune is probably a card you'd want to ditch, though perhaps this is a slot that could also be happily consumed by the beforementioned 1cmc cards too.
1 month ago
Erm . . . I'm not sure if I got the right piece of info through, so let me clarify just in case
Denial counters basically everything(noncreature) if cast t1, and it is very likely to counter things turn 2-3. You can drop a 4+ power creature t3, and then protect it with Denial. Granted, Denial is best with cheap big things, but that's because its role is often " Turn Aside for your Shadow, but with the upside of hitting a lot more relevant things".
Really, I would be using Denial as a way to keep my opponents from killing my big thing in Modern, meaning that technically, you can still just use Spell Pierce in the same spot.
But I guess you just want big things to go with denial, in which case look at https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=cmc%3D1+legal%3Amodern+pow%3E%3D4 , https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=cmc%3D2+legal%3Amodern+pow%3E%3D4, https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3Adelve+type%3Acreature+legal%3Amodern
If you want to build with Denial and a big creature, Grixis Death's Shadow is a great deck.
If you're trying to protect a reasonable sized creature, any cool low cmc creature plus any counterspell is fine.
What is it specifically you want to do?
1 month ago
Nerdytimesorwhatever appreciate the feedback - got some responses for ya.
Vindicate (in my opinion) has more value in this deck as it removes any permanent without causing a loss of life that could be spent elsewhere. Anguished Unmaking is a great suggestion - now you've got me thinking about making the switch.
Illusionist's Bracers (again, personal opinion) has been pretty powerful in this deck, allowing you to tutor two enchantments at once (duh) and usually win with that interaction. I will agree, it is a bit slow/clunky for cEDH, especially with the 3 mana equip cost, but I've been able to consistently get it out turn 1/2 and have it equipped before Zur swings turn 2/3. All that aside, it is almost useless to draw into turn 4/5 unless the board gets wiped. There are a couple other targets for equipping this as well, with Dark Confidant and Hullbreacher coming to mind.
Diplomatic Immunity is usually the second enchantment I tutor out (after Necropotence of course) and has always provided additional security for Zur. It also combos well with the other equipment in this deck, and the nuances of shroud when Zur tutors out an equipment.
Daybreak Coronet , All That Glitters , and Phyresis are essentially a back-up plan for the Thoracle/TP/DC win condition. The look on an opponent's face when you swing for 20+ infect in an esper deck is always amusing as well.
Great point about Tainted Pact . Four Islands has never gotten in the way of it working for me, although you are absolutely right that in some cases that would stop it completely. I'll definitely have to revisit this and make some changes.
To be honest, this is the first time I've ever seen Spell Snare - need to add that ASAP.
Shimmer Myr is an excellent card, but this deck doesn't run any lines that win with artifacts aside from the obvious Isochron Scepter . Maybe I'm missing something, but most Shimmer/Zur decks focus more on artifacts than this does.
I've got a vault copy of Mox Diamond , but am too scared to use it at the $800 price point. Proxying might be the move for that.
Miscast is another I've been debating, but haven't found a spot for it yet.
I threw Drannith Magistrate in here almost immediately after it was release to support the stax(ish) undertones of this deck - completely agree how absurd that card is.
Thanks again for the feedback!
1 month ago
Illusionist's Bracers This is not a competitive card, especially not in Zur. What function does it serve?
Diplomatic Immunity I love this card, but it doesn't have much purpose here. It seems to me like an additional counterspell would just be better in every scenario.
What purpose does Extract serve?
You are running 4x Islands, and Tainted Pact , with a ThOr/Labman line. TP wont exile your deck for you.
*Spell snare stops: Tainted Pact, Thassa's Oracle, Drannith Magistrate, Dockside Extortionist, Underworld Breach, Neoform, Isochron Scepter, and many more relevant game ending targets. I recommend it highly.
1 month ago
Kinda depends; one of the struggles of modern u/b is having to decide between discard, counterspells, or both. It's also easy to drift into a kinda-sorta tempo shell. Some general cards to consider... Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek , Drown in the Loch , Mana Leak , Archmage's Charm , Remand , Delay , Fatal Push , Bloodchief's Thirst , Murderous Rider , Brazen Borrower , Spell Snare , Cryptic Command , Snapcaster Mage , Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Behold the Multiverse , Rise / Fall (pet card of mine - might be worth a splash for it, Bolt, and K-command).
1 month ago
@TriusMalarky While Twin can force a land to get tapped on turn 3 to prevent 3 mana spells from getting cast you do need to remember doing so leaves the combo piece open to sorcery speed removal such as a Dreadbore , Flame Slash or Declaration in Stone in the first game and in the second and third game it allows cards like Torpor Orb or Blind Obedience to be played - tapping all out to put the combo piece down means you won't have counter-mana up to stop these effects from hitting the board and often the Twin player will instead choose to cast the combo piece on the endstep of their opponent's turn incase if there is a sorcery-speed threat such as T-orb that needs to be countered on their opponent's turn instead. The Twin player will (in most cases) only choose to preemptively tap down the land if they know their opponent is mana-screwed, if they don't have a counterspell in hand or if they know their opponent is running Twin to further stall the opponent's combo. With that said I wouldn't entirely discount 3 mana answers that can be made uncounterable by Cavern of Souls or Aether Vial or 3 mana spells that completely disable the deck beyond repair such as Unmoored Ego if they resolve.
I also think it would be more problematic for Twin decks to also splash in a third color for enchantment removal. One aspect that made Twin decks so oppressive was a solid portion of them would include copies of Blood Moon in the mainboard in order for it to be more difficult for their opponents to interact with their combo. Dedicating to a third color to run Dovin's Veto is going to come with not being able to run Blood Moon while being easier for the Twin deck to also get disrupted by an opponent's potential Blood Moon as well. On the other hand, Blood Moon has also been made weaker in the meta as Cleansing Wildfire and Force of Vigor make effective get out of jail free cards from sideboard.
Plus, I think you're undervaluing some cards in your assessment. Back when Twin was around the only one-mana spells that could remove an endstep flashed-in Deceiver Exarch was Path to Exile , Rending Volley , Vendetta and the ever so infrequent Skred and Lightning Axe and out of those, the only cards that were mainboard worthy was Path to Exile and Skred (which only worked if you were running a niche deck and you were going first with extra technicalities). Fatal Push has had a huge impact on the format being loads better than Vendetta which gives many more decks greater flexibility when holding removal mana up especially in game 1 given how playable it is in the mainboard. There's also Veil of Summer which also deserves mention and while you may see it as a simple upgrade to Autumn's Veil , fundamentally it's not. In the event I toss a Path to Exile or Fatal Push at a Pestermite and the Twin player responds with a Dispel , or as you suggested a Dovin's Veto , if I play an Autumn's Veil (which would effectively counter either counterspell), it would be a 2-for-2 trade. I lose the kill spell and veil to remove the Twin player's combo piece and counterspell. This lukewarm outcome is the reason why Autumn's Veil saw none if any modern play as Silence typically did its job better enough to warrant a splash in white over it in most cases if such an effect was absolutely needed in sideboard. Veil of Summer surpasses both because it has a built in cantrip that turns the interaction into a 1-for-2 trade in your favor and if the interaction happens while your opponent is trying to put a Splinter Twin on the combo piece it becomes a 1-for-3 trade in your favor. Veil of Summer 's value is by no means merely replacing Autumn's Veil or Silence 's role in the format, but more accurately it's replacing the clunkier Krosan Grip and Sudden Death that were typically used against the Twin-combo instead which makes it its own unique answer against the combo in my opinion.
Two more cards that I think also deserve further assessment is Sinister Concoction and Dovin's Veto . To say Dovin's Veto is just an upgrade to Negate I think is an understatement. "This spell can't be countered" is the reason Abrupt Decay was a banger of a card at thwarting Twin's machinations and I think the fact a Dovin's Veto can stop a Splinter Twin on cast makes it good enough to be a Twin-killer too. You suggested Twin might have to go into white to run its own Dovin's Veto es and Path to Exile s but I think the fact this card can also be used against Twin may be a more compelling reason for Twin to splash green over white just to have Veil of Summer as a necessary means to put up with the combined pressure Abrupt Decay and Dovin's Veto would have in keeping Twin in check as the Veil is the only card that can universally counteract both spells. (And even so Veil of Summer isn't a 100% failsafe as it has nothing against Rending Volley .) As for Sinister Concoction , I'm not going to pretend this card sees much Modern play, but this thing is a serious contender at throwing a wrench in Twin's plans and outside of Twin it's not an unplayable removal spell either. The reason why is it works much like your explanation for why Authority of the Consuls works - you can play it turn one and your opponent has no means to remove it without splashing a third color. Now Authority of the Consuls may be the more ideal card to use over it, but if your multicolor black deck can't splash white this is your next best thing and it even has some upsides over Authority of the Consuls . Sinister Concoction may be more fragile to effects like Stifle and Tale's End or effects like Spellskite and Apostle's Blessing , but it makes up for it when enchantment removal is thrown at it, as you can crack it in response to dumpster one of your opponent's creatures, in this case most likely a combo piece, while also rendering the enchantment removal as a waste in the process. This in turn is going to make the Twin player more cautious about playing their combo pieces before drawing into enchantment removal which can potentially delay the Twin player's progress harder than an Authority of the Consuls otherwise would. And if the Twin player doesn't have an answer, you'll always crack the Sinister Concoction in response to whatever creature they'll try to enchant with Splinter Twin to inflict the most damage. Even if you're playing on the draw or you draw into the card later, much like Authority of the Consuls , Sinister Concoction also bypasses quite a couple of Twin's favorite counterspells too such as Dispel , Spell Snare and Remand which is why I think the spell has much merit as yet another Twin-hate specific sideboard card that just wasn’t available to be utilized before in the past.
Lastly, the list I put up above was something I compiled over a quick gatherer search. I wouldn’t be surprised if I missed a few cards that may be just as worthy of discussion on countering Twin as well.
1 month ago
If you're running Grixis Bad Control, you should definitely wait until Strixhaven its and run 3-4 copies of Prismari command. The plan is to cast it on your opponent's end step turn 3, and either kill a creature/artifact if they have it, or double loot to make sure you have the right cards. Then you get the treasure, and you can drop your big boi a turn earlier.
Otherwise, if you're going Bad, you need to make sure you have the right interaction. Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Fatal Push and Lightning Bolt are key. Also, I really recommend some form of 2-mana counterspell, largely Condescend . Remand is okay but it really depends on the quality of your top end. You should also run some suite of 1-mana countermagic, largely Spell Snare , but that depends on what you end up seeing. You definitely have enough between Snare, Spell Pierce , Miscast , Dispel , and Mystical Dispute that you can run several in the SB and also be able to switch your whole SB around depending on your meta.
Terminate is fine, too.
On wincons, I feel Ultimatum is too slow for Modern. You want 6-drops at most, like Dragonlord Silumgar or Inferno/Grave Titan. Additionally, cards like Niv-Mizzet, Parun , The Scarab God , Keranos, God of Storms , Enter the God-Eternals , Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , etc. are great, as you can go Prismari into t4 Keranos.
I'd recommend a couple Keranos and a couple Silumgar, actually.
1 month ago
Collective brutality is amazing vs burn. It does a lot on turn 2 in a game where turns matter. It also lets you turn extra lands and cards that aren't very good vs burn into very relevant effects.
Inquisition of Kozilek is also excellent.
You might not expect it, but one of the best cards in grixis vs burn is Tasigur, the Golden Fang . Getting the game to a place where the burn player is topdecking isn't too hard. Sealing the deal once you're there is essential, and that's where Tasigur shines.