Kunoros, Hound of Athreos
Legendary Creature — Dog
Vigilance, menace, lifelink
Creature cards in graveyards can't enter the battlefield.
Players can't cast spells form graveyards.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Kunoros, Hound of Athreos Discussion
10 months ago
Also, I'd like to see a MDFC that puts one multicolored legendary creature into two sides which add up to the original cost. So Kunoros, Hound of Athreos would become two separate cards name Kunoros, one + or + , or like Nicol Bolas becoming + on each side. The point is that casting both sides adds up to the original casting cost exactly. Each side also must have at least one color (Unless there's a really cool way to justify colorless).
Alternatively, you can separate any of the Two character - one creature card cards. Those are Adrix and Nev, Twincasters , Anax and Cymede , Firesong and Sunspeaker , Gisa and Geralf , Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis , Mina and Denn, Wildborn , and Tibor and Lumia . Also, I don't like Sen Triplets , Shattergang Brothers , or any Trostani for this, as three characters don't divide how I'd like, really.
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10 months ago
Kunoros, Eternal Watchdog
Legendary Creature - Dog
Defender, Lifelink, Deathtouch
Nontoken permanents can't enter the battlefield from anywhere but the stack.
Players can't play cards from anywhere but their own hand.
Cards in the graveyard or in exile cannot leave their respective zones.
I think it's weirdly OP, but unsure how to really balance it. Like, in many games, this could just be an excellent defender, but if built around, it can easily destroy games, especially in this meta.
11 months ago
Hey, well done on a budget.
Athreos and Plaguecrafter are good, but I don't think the rest of the aristocrat strategy is doing enough. Consider cutting most of it for more pillowfort and hatebears?
An advantage of having more flying hatebears is they can more easily get you back the monarch if an opponent gains control of it.
- Rule of Law
- Bloodthirsty Blade
- Thorn of the Black Rose
- Kunoros, Hound of Athreos
- Ruinous Ultimatum
- Mind Stone
- Talisman of Hierarchy
There's some budget manabase upgrades to consider:
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
I don't know about this, but in situations where the card says "return to the battlefield (Athreos, Shroud-Veiled, Luminous Broodmoth, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad), would Kunoros, Hound of Athreos cancel that?
1 year ago
Yay! I love dogs! I've been actually planning on making a dog deck myself, so I have a few thoughts. :)
First of all, let's start with the most important thing: basic lands. You NEED the dog art Plains from Jumpstart!! (You can see that art in your decklist by appending (JMP:45) after Plains.) Yes, they're actually a couple bucks apiece, so you might not want to make ALL 23 Plains that art.... but at least a couple. :)
Alright, on to the actual important things. LoL
Speaking of lands, just want to quickly mention Animal Sanctuary. I know it's not that great, but it does have synergy with your dogs and provides a late-game mana sink if you're out of cards.
This is essentially a white weenie deck, dog-themed, so I'd advise cutting the high-costing angels (especially Adarkar Valkyrie, since she doesn't even do anything the turn she hits) in favor of some more aggressively costed dogs. You really don't have any way to ramp into them, so 6 drops are just going to be too slow. (Shalai might make the cut, because 4 CMC is more doable and hexproof can be amazing in certain matchups, but she's sideboard at best.)
Encampment Keeper is a decent turn 1 play that can also close out games if you last long enough to use his tap ability. Since this deck wants to be attacking with a lot of dogs, Boros Mastiff rewards you with a little life (or a lot if you have your anthem effects in play).
There's no way to tutor up Pack Leader in white. You could splash black for Grim Tutor (which gives you access to Banehound, a solid 1-drop, and Kunoros, Hound of Athreos, solid sideboard hate against graveyard decks). But honestly I don't think it's worth it. First of all, that will make the manabase necessarily expensive. Second, with 8 copies of an anthem effect between Pack Leader and Honor of the Pure, you're bound to hit at least one if not two of them in the average game.
Lastly, just a quick note: I noticed you have a couple dog cards in your Maybeboard (Supply Runners, Trusty Retriever, Release the Dogs) but sadly they aren't Modern legal, so no point considering them unless the format doesn't actually matter to you that much.
Hope something in that wall of text helps! +1 from me!
1 year ago
You and I think quite alike, it seems. Seeing how our peers have designed their decks has helped me a lot as well. :)
I've been sharing your sentiments regarding sacrifice and discard outlets. That is actually the prime reason I've added Fauna Shaman, Tortured Existence, Bontu the Glorified and Greater Good, although their effects are good on their own as well.
Targeted graveyard hate is definitely the most glaring weakness of this type of deck. I have also ruminated a lot on how to solve the Bojuka Bog problem. Like you suggest, among the most prominent inclusions are Aegis of the Gods and Leyline of Sanctity. In addition, I've also considered running Orbs of Warding, Shalai, Voice of Plenty and Sigarda, Heron's Grace. Out of these, Aegis of the Gods is the one I'm the most likely to add. I find them all a bit difficult to add to my list, however. The angels don't give you hexproof in the graveyard. They, and Leyline all cost 4 mana which is a little too pricy. Aegis has the upside of being only two mana, but I really want to try and limit the amount of creatures without keywords. I may refrain from adding it until after that time I get completely blown out by a Bojuka Bog lol.
Oh, and my favourite secret weapon is equipping Lord of Extinction with Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots and place all the keyword counters on it with Kathril. Not so subtle, but very effective. People tend to hyperfocus on the fact that Kathril is in the command zone. :)
1 year ago
VampDemigod this is a comment I have gotten a couple of times and while Kunoros, Hound of Athreos is probably my favorite dog card in MTG, in order to include it I would have to rework the mana. Not a huge deal necessarily because I could drop 4 triomes into the mana base probably for the chance to get Kunoros, but he has some weak links. Kunoros is easy to deal with, when you draw more than 1 you can't recycle him somehow to get additional value with this deck (could include FLING I guess to get some added value) and this deck relies heavily on getting your victory quickly. If you are bogged down to the point where Kunoros is necessary he's probably not going to be saving your bacon. I am still looking for an excuse to include him, and maybe Zendikar will bring one. For now, this deck almost needs to be as fast as RDW or Temur Adventures and other stuff like that will run all over you.
1 year ago
grizzlybair to be honest slowly it's becoming that. I'm actually working on making it activated abilities and enchantments in addition with plenty of board wipes. Like the combo with exquisite blood and sanguine bond, I'm adding a couple of tutor cards to make this a little more possible. I mean it is still a bit of a death and taxes control deck without the blue. But having abilities is where I can gain life which also trigger abilities to have my opponents lose life is the goal. So if I have a card out that says whenever I gain life and opponent lose life, but I can still play Kokusho, the Evening Star and I'm playing Commander in a pod of five other people That's a pretty good gain. And if I'm playing with people who end up scrying into their graveyard or try to create a loop between their hand and their graveyard, I can play a card similar to Kunoros, Hound of Athreos and they can't play from their graveyard, I know I also have a card somewhere that "whenever a card is put into a graveyard it is instead exiled." To help prevent that issue as well. But I love the white side of complete board wipes which is nice if I get desperate, and most of my non-basic lands trigger life gain.
I'm still just coming back to the game but it was worth this revamp. I appreciate your insight and I like your deck.