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Deadpoo111 Just found out last night that Flayer of the Hatebound does not actually get the tigger off if you cast a creature from grave with Chainer, Nightmare Adept . The creature technically goes onto the stack and enters the field from there, not from the graveyard directly.

Given that, Flayer loses a good bit of use in my mind, because it'd be much much harder to guarantee it'll be out alongside something like Reanimate or Rise of the Dark Realms . Shame, because he's pretty darn powerful otherwise.

September 12, 2019 4:11 p.m.

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#2

Thanks for the +1! Always appreciate it.

And thanks for the heads up on Flayer. I originally took it out because it actually does not trigger off of things like Living Death or Sepulchral Primordial , but getting a consistent effect off of Chainer's ability is probably good enough. I'll try it out, one came in the precon after all! =]

September 10, 2019 10:29 p.m.

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#3

Skydaddy I've never heard of Mafegor actually, but that also means I've never really seen him used yet. Look pretty interesting though!

As for Torment of Hailfire, I've been testing with Kokusho, the Evening Star in that slot instead. Not sure if this deck can sustain a Kokusho loop for very long, especially with only 1 sac outlet, but I want to test out the dragon a bit more with Sneak Attack before I revert any changes. Hailfire was honestly getting pretty boring to resolve, but it's still highly effective and useful to have around. Might come back in, especially with Vedalken Orrery in the list. Cheers, and I'm glad you're liking the changes! =]

September 9, 2019 6:01 a.m.

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#4

Sire is actually already in the list, under the Discard Related section. No worries if you didn't catch it in there earlier, the custom categories are honestly pretty gnarly to look through. If you have trouble spotting anything else specific, you can change the categories in the dropdown menus right at the top of the lands section. If fact, I'm thinking of changing the viewing back to the default, the list looks pretty messy right now unfortunately, haha.

But yea, Sire of Insanity has been, well, insane. I mainly use him as a hedge against control-oriented decks, and I've found that he functions in his role in this deck even better than Mindslicer , who I would otherwise normally run. Mindslicer has been a house in my Mono-Black Chainer list, but Sire's ability to wreck hands while remaining a sizable threat on board matches up with this deck's gameplan much better.

September 6, 2019 5:04 a.m.

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#5

Skydaddy Just finished updating the list to reflect what I've been using for the past couple of pod games. I can't remember each specific change, but I altered the strategy of the deck a bit to include a focus on Sneak Attack and other top-of-deck cheaters like Bolas's Citadel which can take great advantage of Chainer's haste granting effect. This inclusion has the added benefit of mitigating some of the effectiveness of repeated graveyard hate against this deck; getting hit by 3 other players' Bojuka Bog s in one game left me unable to do anything at all. I also included more instant-speed recursion effects such as Phyrexian Reclamation and Necromancy which can be used in a pinch to save the best of the bunch in the event a one-time grave exile effect goes off.

I removed the Aetherflux + Citadel combo in the meantime, as the inclusion of Aetherflux specifically felt extremely clunky without any additional artifact support. I have been in talks with some others regarding abusing that combo in Chainer alongside things like Goblin Engineer and Goblin Welder , but that's not the direction I'm looking to take this deck right now.

I know this is probably not what you were hoping for regarding explanations or cuts, but just know that there are more than a few cards I'm looking to work back into the list, namely Lightning Greaves and a second Sac Outlet. But right now the addition of Sneak Attack and other large creatures has been pretty darn fun! This is definitely a unique take on the reanimator style for me, so I'm willing to play it out a bit longer to see how it lasts.

September 6, 2019 2:36 a.m.

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#6

Necropotence is still a great card, but discarding to Chainer, Nightmare Adept is a pretty big part of this deck. I found it hard to play around that bit of anti-synergy, but Necro is still such a powerful card that I wouldn't fault you for trying it out. If you do decide to go that route, Dark Ritual becomes a pretty nasty card, enabling a turn 1 Necro.

Library of Leng is pretty neat, but it does not let you circumvent discarding to pay the cost of an effect, so it wouldn't help out regarding Chainer's ability anyways. The only way Library and Necro work together effectively in this deck is because Library gets rid of the hand size limit, but I've found Reliquary Tower and Thought Vessel to be better choices for that effect.

September 2, 2019 6:04 p.m.

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