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Gaddock Teeg Discussion
5 days ago
You want an aggressive commander and a non-aggressive commander? That's a bit... broad, but I'll try. I'll stick with Selesnya since that's the only restriction.
Good aggressive commanders are Rhys the Redeemed for tokens (and can be mono-W or mono-G if you want), Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith for voltron, and Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist for a flexible commander that can be anywhere in between. Ezuri, Renegade Leader heads a powerful elfball strategy, and Selvala, Heart of the Wilds is good for stompy or Eldrazi. Sram, Senior Edificer is another good voltron commander, and either of the Odrics (Odric, Lunarch Marshal or Odric, Master Tactician) work for mono-white.
For non-aggressive commanders, Gaddock Teeg is a powerful stax piece. Selvala, Explorer Returned and Karametra, God of Harvests are both really good and open ended, anywhere from group hug to enchantress to turbo-ramp. Eight-and-a-Half-Tails is good for control, and either of the Thalias (Thalia, Heretic Cathar and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben) or Hokori, Dust Drinker work for prison/stax. Druids is sneaky good with Seton, Krosan Protector, and mono-green has some good lands decks with Azusa, Lost but Seeking or Titania, Protector of Argoth.
1 week ago
Stax is a resource management deck, based upon the idea of proactively dealing with the opponent's threats. This means instead of removing their big dude, or countering their wincon, you force them to never cast the cards to begin with. Winter Orb is a great card at doing such a feat, as you can flash in your commander on the endstep of the opponent's turn, tapping it down. You untap all of your permanents, as it is tapped, but all your opponent's will have to deal with only untapping one land. This will make casting a big creature or wincon very difficult. Discard is another form of stax. By denying them cards, mana, or stopping them from casting spells (Gaddock Teeg, Rule of Law, etc.) you remove their threats before they even have them.
Stax is IMO the most competitive non-combo strategy at the highest tables of EDH. Hokori, Dust Drinker, Stasis, Trinisphere, Sphere of Resistance, Static Orb, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Lodestone Golem, Armageddon, and Thorn of Amethyst are the types of cards considered to be "Stax."
Voltron is a separate strategy entirely, based upon the principle of Rafiq of the Many or one massive creature. Normally voltron strategies like to get one medium sized creature, then enchant (Shield of the Oversoul) the creature to oblivion, or equip one up (Fireshrieker) similarly, at which point by doubling and doubling up it's damage, it one-shots a player. It is normally an aggressive strategy.
1 week ago
1 week ago
This deck doesn't stand in the current modern metagame, and I am concerned with the amount of people saying otherwise.
The deck runs a 9 mana do nothing (Reya Dawnbringer) and Archangel of Thune with nearly no lifegain. Restoration Angel is being run without Blade Splicer nor Siege Rhino, and it can't get it's legs off the ground before turn 4. Be that point control will have wiped your field and will present win with countermagic against your lategame, aggro would have won, and combo will have won that turn or the turn prior. Midrange decks will have shredded your hand with Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek, and be presenting efficient threats while you wait to rebuild.
If you want this deck to be better, I suggest building a deck that isn't a normal midrange, control, aggro, or combo build. Death and Taxes is the style of deck you want.
The deck runs small and efficient beaters that it cheats out with Aether Vial to shut down the opponent.
Against control? nice try Supreme Verdict, Gaddock Teeg has you beat, fast paced weenies will outpace or at least generally nor get shut off by Thoughtseize. Aggro has to get past Kitchen Finks and Blade Splicer tokens. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben can help in that deck as well.
I'll go build of a list for GW death and taxes. This deck isn't far from it, Noble Hierarch instead of Avacyn's Pilgrim, and other small changes, 4x Flickerwisp and probably only 1-2xRestoration Angel, etc.
2 weeks ago
And I second Selfless Spirit
3 weeks ago
Found a sideboard replacement (meta depending) for Gaddock Teeg in Athreos, God of Passage. Teeg was there predominantly for boardwipe resistance, but Athreos does a different (better?) job for boardwipes, spot removal, sac effects (Fulminator Mage!), and could be a big body if all the stars aligned.
3 weeks ago
Land destruction is more of a Stax thing. I do run Strip Mine when I need to destroy specific lands, but more often than not land destruction is not my go-to strategy and when it is I end up using Armageddon and Titania, Protector of Argoth. I generally do not want my opponents to get a replacement land.
Hatebears is more based around the creatures. Think of it as an aggro strategy where your aggro pieces also try to stop your opponent from doing anything to stop you. Gaddock Teeg, for example, prevents the majority of boardwipes from being cast.
4 weeks ago
Almost forgot Gaddock Teeg almost shuts down tron. they can still use oblivion stone, but they won't have turn three Karn or turn four Ugin. Another alternative is Damping Sphere it is meant to slow down tron, they can't pop their stone till turn five if you drop it on turn two. this would give you enough time to not only build up enough of a board, but you can keep them off the stone and win before they can play a single threat.