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Gaddock Teeg Discussion
1 day ago
How well would a Gaddock Teeg fit in this build?
Both seen from a cEDH standpoint, power level: 9-10.
And seen from a tuned down version, to fit a meta at power level 6-8?
1 week ago
I've lowkey always wanted to run Gaddock Teeg with Brisela, Voice of Nightmares in the same deck to potentially shut off all spells except for creature spells with CMC four or greater because that sort of jank is what I live for. Perhaps I'll build a Captain Sisay deck around this concept one day to pull out my Brisela pieces and Teeg. Probably not for competitive play, but I love the idea of shutting down a blue player at the table completely. Although a mana heavy creature with a removal tag on it would shut down that jank lock. Like Duplicant for example, and that card is unaffected by Iona, Shield of Emeria, but I digress. I think Teeg is quite an oppressive commander and to be able to shut down a number of cards in the meta from the command zone for 2 mana is nothing to brush off. I've had a lot of success with him in the past, but drifted into splashing black to have Anafenza, the Foremost at the helm because it's practically the same deck, but with more tutors and it was sort of a meta call in a sense because graveyard decks are rampant in my playgroup.
1 week ago
Aphoticate If I remember correctly, tier 2 was actually High Power during an iteration of this list at the time of SynergyBuild's posting of Anafenza's placement. Maximum Power was tier 0, and Competitive was tier 1, so he was in fact stating she should be at least placed in the High Power tier at the time since her list is comparable with Gaddock Teeg, another hatebear commander in that tier. Please try not to remove context from the posting. I remember it vividly lol.
I'm sorry you feel as if SynergyBuild is condescending, but I think there's a lot to be said about how text removes much of the tone of things and can be interpreted in different ways. I know when I first interacted with them I felt sort of the same way, but after actively communicating with them I found that they are a very kind and approachable person. I have gotten plenty of advice from SynergyBuild on decks and I can vouch for them for being a respectable community member. I can understand to an extent why you feel as if their actions come across as policing on this page, but when the owners are inactive on a page with this much of a following, there are bound to be others who take charge and actively contribute to discussion.
I appreciate your apology, and I'm also sorry I didn't mention or bring this up sooner. If you had an upgraded account I would have personally reached out to you via PM about that and tried to make amends instead of just not saying anything. You're fine to continue posting here, you're still more than welcome to contribute, and it's not my say to tell you to stop. I just think in the future to be more careful about how you phrase things because what I thought was twisting my words could have been a simple misunderstanding of what I said. I also think maybe everyone got off on the wrong foot, and I can understand why everyone feels the way they do about each other, but it might be best to try to start off fresh and not hold past interactions against each other.
1 week ago
Aphoticate perfectly fine double posts happen to the best of us xD.
Now onto why I doubt Kess Stax will work in tier 1.
TO start, 99 card commanderless colorless stax was a Tier 3 deck meant to prove every deck is worth tier three when built competitively. I would never call it tier one as is.
Now, mass discard? I would want some examples of that. I mean, I would love to see that.
I mean, Oppression, Bottomless Pit, and Necrogen Mists aren't exactly great unless you are really a black stax deck like Nath, and nath is about it. I mean monoblack stax can use it, but Kess breaking parity on that isn't really worth it.
Also, you claim now that you aren't a cEDH guru, yet before you claimed that the reason behind Ishai's impressive showing in the competitive tier was due to her commander damage ability, and that with Vial Smasher, until I explained that outside of Yuriko/Edric/Blood Pod, a cEDH deck that deals damage through combat in general is bad, and you caved. (November 20th as archived)
Or, when you kept insisting that Wort was a tier 4 deck on this when it was listed Tier 3, and claiming that my 99 card colorless commanderless stax lsit was impossible, before again, caving under the realization you were wrong. (November 9th as archived.)
Or, when you claimed that Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip and Erebos, God of the Dead weren't worth the spot they were given, until Soren841 and I explained to you how breaking parity and mono-black stax worked. Guess who caved? Hint, you. (November 8th as archived)
Or, when you were randomly asking people on this list about decks you should make outside of cEDH, completely wasting the use of the comment system, forgetting that the forums exist. You also dissed on Sidisi and Razaketh a bit. (November 6th as archived)
Or, when you wanted to know about Nath elfball, claiming it was too janky for cEDH, and I had to explain to you how the deck worked, and that tokens were a wincon, even without Earthcraft and Squirrel Nest. After I explained, you didn't respond. (October 23 as archived.)
Or, when you claim that Anafenza, the Foremost, a powerful stax hatebear deck that can shut down tons of Tier 1-2 combo decks on her own without an answer was 'unsynergistic' and Abzan Falconer was better than Gaddock Teeg. You caved to DangoDaikazoku, ForsakenxEDHx and me (October 20th as archived)
Or, when you enthusiastically claimed that something absurd was true or something considerably powerful was trash, someone else or me explains with common, rational sense that you are wrong.
And you cave
(Always as archived)
Do you see why I think you are conceited and have no idea what you are talking about?
1 week ago
Maybe needs some actual artifact removal in the sideboard instead of Kataki, War's Wage, Fragmentize or something similar. Gaddock Teeg in the sideboard for anti-board wipe tech since our deck is creature heavy. I'd add 2 more 1-drops, maybe Narnam Renegade or Pelt Collector
1 week ago
hkhssweiss Thanks for the helpful suggestions! I feel like I can include many of these. Some of them I had considered previously, like Flagstones of Trokair, Gaddock Teeg and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, but ultimately took them out for price reasons. When Dominaria released, Mox Amber was absurdly overpriced, but now seems like a reasonable upgrade. I overlooked Mistveil Plains when building, and seems like great recursion for the deck. I had Selvala, Heart of the Wilds in the deck, but later removed it for another commander deck, and buying another copy was too expensive.
Over time, I believe I will put more money into the deck by buying more expensive upgrades. I will definitely take all of these into consideration, thanks for your time.
1 week ago
mrblue424 Have you ever considered running Gaddock Teeg as a way to stop your opponents? You won't be able to cast like 8 of your spells, but it would hold your oppponents more back than you. Some other legendary lands that could be included is Flagstones of Trokair as an untapped plains or Mistveil Plains to reshuffle your legendary cards from your grave into your library. I also feel like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds does well to break parity as you will most likely be guaranteed to have a bigger presence with your tutoring online. Another one would also be Thalia, Guardian of Thraben as a majority of your deck is creatures. Mox Amber is also great ramp that is tutorable and will almost always be active!
Hope that helps!
2 weeks ago
Hi @maraxus1070, Personally this deck fears the mana board wipes far more than the mana ones...
Wrath of God, Damnation and Supreme Verdict or others like this can be stopped by Gaddock Teeg / Sanctum Prelate (Although I rather use him on 1 - 2 - 3)... Or as intended they are delayed by any of our sphere effects and hopefully defused before the can save up for them...
Aggressive taps of lands during orb effects is also necessary instead of going for greedy plays and ramp for example and it prevents this. Occasionally yes people tend to get some RNG luck and are able to cast it earlier with sol ring, crypt or any ramp they were able to get out before you were able to react properly to any of it, and you can try to rebuild or just deal with it that you weren't fast enough or on top of the game with that certain starting hand which as we all know happens sometimes. (I don't side anything in for a board wipe heavy meta though but you could look to add Spell Pierce kind of counters and they even exist in creature form which is also good for aggressive tapping and threatening to counter Seth board wipe, for example; Cursecatcher, Patron Wizard, Judge's Familiar, Mana Tithe, Force Spike, Spiketail Hatchling, and many more at Low CMC that can be found if you search for "counter target spell unless its controller pays" )
Mistakes, like Holding back or playing into this, and keeping creatures back might lose you the game to others as well that are just biding their time, so that creates a dilemma too... Rather you will want to be ahead of that by slamming down sphere effects and keeping them down as fast as possible by straining every recourse possible be it artifacts or lands...
I do have one card that does some miracles and scares people of using wipes which is Living Plane... I tend to slam it down fairly early if I have nothing else to do as this creates a lot of problems regardless of Board wipes and lands even enter with summoning sickness so rebuilding after it becomes easier. It might also take their focus away from wiping as they might know what comes after a resolved living plane. (= Linvala or Elesh... )
Swords and Paths are mostly used when they see an opening and can combo after end-step removing something valuable that is preventing their win I presume. You could apply the same Spell pierce effects + sphere effects to battle this somewhat... but at one mana it is far harder. Although one would also be able to do it with winter orb + a sphere effect and root maze-like effects out while they are on no lands untapped mode! this is far harder to manage as you can't always have everyone locked out this much as early as turn 1 or 2. this also applies to the mana board wipes like Fire Covenant and Toxic Deluge which are far harder to combat...
The same thing can be said about people running loads of artifact and enchantment removal in my many different meta... Personally, I really don't side in anything against hate like this. What we do try though is prepare a board state that prevents this from even being an option. (Again yes RNG might screw you over a small number of times if so just go gg next game ;) )
(I Hope this helps. If you do find solid solutions yourself during playtest feel free to let me know, but this is all I can think of right now.)