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Lorthos, the Tidemaker
Legendary Creature — Octopus
Whenever Lorthos, the Tidemaker attacks, you may pay 8. If you do, tap up to eight target permanents. Those permanents don't untap during their controllers' next untap steps.
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Lorthos, the Tidemaker Discussion
1 month ago
I would probably take out Wrexial and Sky Swallower, since, from the looks of it, you're mainly relying on Quest for Ula's Temple to cast them. Maybe you can consider Kraken of the Straits, Lorthos, the Tidemaker, and Crush of Tentacles as replacements?
2 months ago
So this is both a decent start and has a long way to go. While I don't have many specific card cuts to recommend to you, I can point you in a general direction for you to go, as well as a bunch of cards that might help you...
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Some issues I see with the deck Show
- Not enough Evasion. While your creatures might be large, very few of them have trample, flying, unblockable, landwalk, etc. This means that against any deck that makes tokens (Which is a LOT of them), you will have a VERY hard time actually killing them.
- Not enough removal. I know that UG tends to be very light in removal, but it is still VERY important. While you have a couple removal spells, mass removal is still very useful.
- Not enough protection. Similar to your removal spells, you have very few ways to protect your own creatures. Being able to protect your own beefy creatures is important in commander when there are so many opponents and having a large number of cards in your hand paints a large target upon your back.
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In general, these cards are either too clunky, too expensive (cost wise), have strictly better versions, or don't push your game plan forward.
Hopefully some amount of this will help! You're allready at the deck being only $90 so you're pretty close! Good luck!
2 months ago
Hmmm... just off the top of my head, some ideas include Petradon, Somnophore, Colossal Whale, Stormtide Leviathan, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs, Tradewind Rider, Dungeon Geists, Sower of Temptation, Rimescale Dragon, Lorthos, the Tidemaker, Heartwood Storyteller, Ruric Thar, the Unbowed, Deus of Calamity... I hope some of those are helpful!
2 months ago
I suppose it would really depend on where you want to take the deck. Are you looking for a more combo oriented deck? More aggro? Something in between? How important is the theme? What kind of budget are you looking at to expand the deck? I'm goiung to assume that you really want to keep the budget low so I'm going to keep my recommendations cheap. I will mention a few cards that cost a bit more, but I'll point those out.
Here are some ideas to consider. The following cards are kinda weak or disrupt your own game plan. You should consider swapping them out.
Deep Spawn and Tolarian Serpent would be good cards for running in a deck where you are self milling in order to fill the graveyard for reanimation effects or a Laboratory Maniac. But I don't think that is the strategy that you are going for. I do see the interactions with Back from the Brink but it seems pretty weak to me.
Denizen of the Deep is a good fattie. But it wipes your board and leaves your opponents with all of their threats. If you are using it to reset ETB triggers, there are better ways.
Homarid Shaman only targets green creatures. This could be a meta choice, but there are so many better things to run.
Island Fish Jasconius is another decent fattie, but the investment of three mana each turn becomes a problem when you need that mana for other spells.
Leviathan would work for me if it did NOT have the requirment of sacrificing two lands for each attack. Without the ability to return Islands form the graveyard to the battlefield, this just eats your mana base.
Marjhan can eat a creature 'borrowed' with Seasinger's ability. Without the Seasinger then you have to use the Crab Umbra to untap it. I do like the shoot attacking creature ability. Adding deathtouch via Gorgon Flail could kill several attackers each turn.
Polar Kraken really needs to go. That cumulative upkeep is just TOO much.
Thing from the Deep is another creature that just eats your mana base and doesn't provide enough benefit for the self induced land destruction.
Sunken City is a great card as long as nobody else is playing blue. The card does not say "you control" so it helps your opponents creatures too.
Vanishing is kinda cute. But keep in mind that phasing does NOT trigger enter the battlefield abilities. There are better choices.
High Tide is a great card in competitive Legacy decks where you combo off and kill in a single turn. As a one-shot effect, not very good for commander games.
Scent of Brine requires you to show everyone what cards you have. I think a simple Cancel would be better.
If you have the budget for it consider the following cards:
Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura would act as additional copies of Crab Umbra.
Phyrexian Vault would work well with the Seasinger to eat other peoples creatures and give you some card draw. There are other artifacts, enchantments, and some lands that can sacrifice creatures. Altar of Dementia is a great sacrifice outlet but it is $2-$3.
Tidal Flats would give your attackers first strike unless your opponents tap mana for each attacker.
Minion Reflector could be a lot of fun.
Tromokratis, Shrouded Serpent, Lorthos, the Tidemaker, and Ring of Evos Isle are cards I use in my deck that work fairly well.
Consider adding a Learn from the Past, Psychic Spiral, or Reminisce into you deck to get cards back and add some resilency.
Let me know what you think. As always, temper these recommendations with your collection and your budget.
3 months ago
Welcome to the Magic community and congrats on building your first deck! You can certainly build around your commander but if you would rather double down on the Lovecraft-style monster theme, consider adding some more ramp to the deck and some cards that will let you do silly things because your sea-monsters. Of course, you can't forget to add some more tentacled monsters as well. With that in mind, here are a some of my suggestions for the deck. Hope this helps and that the building goes well for you!
Cthulu's Friends: Lorthos, the Tidemaker, Fleet Swallower, Stormtide Leviathan, Sire of Stagnation, Scourge of Fleets, Stormsurge Kraken, Elder Deep-Fiend, Kederekt Leviathan, Trench Gorger, Inkwell Leviathan, Deep-Sea Kraken, Grozoth
3 months ago
3 months ago
Zelpoke: I already have Inkwell Leviathan in my mainboard, and I'll have to consider if I have room for Lorthos, the Tidemaker. As well, Dizzy Spell can be transmuted to tutor for any other card with cmc of 1, which can find Quest for Ula's Temple. This just makes it more likely that I will have a quest early game, so that's why I'm trying it out. I have Fog Bank in there as some early game protection, but you're right, it does seem out of place. As for Mage-Ring Network, I am still doing some testing with it so it remains to be seen how well it works.