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Great Sable Stag
Creature — Elk
Great Sable Stag can't be countered.
Protection from blue and from black (This creature can't be blocked, targeted, dealt damage, or enchanted by anything blue or black.)
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Great Sable Stag Discussion
4 weeks ago
Thanks for the suggestions. I think Scaled Behemoth is a bit expensive, and I'ts not that good if it's countered or your opponent has a lot of chump blockers.
Carnage Tyrant is way out of my budget.
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Why do you want to build around Great Sable Stag?
1 month ago
I have been surprised with the Affinity match up in particular. I'm currently 68.6% against affinity. In theory it felt like I poor game one match up; but it just hasn't played out that way.
This answer got really long; so I put the answer in a "spoiler" thing:
Discussion of Affinity, Tron, and Deaths Shadow Match-ups Show
I have been testing a main-board Acidic Slime as a "catch all" that can really damage Tron. We can obviously race Tron and really even after they assemble from it's pretty much "if they have All Is Dust they win...if not, we do".
Deaths Shadow has really only been an issue in games where (a) they get a ton of discard early and (b) we don't get a creature to out-class Tasigur/Angler.
I personally test against the top 15 decks in the meta (with a focus on the top 6) and have found the deck to be viable (that's essentially how I grade decks...they are either "viable" or "not viable".). My first few goes at "Garruk Green" where not viable (focused on Garruk, Primal Hunter, a few other walkers, etc) but this one feels/tests with true potential.
Having said that, there is still room to tune (especially in the board). I'm testing heavily today (and have the last two days) to see if:
(a) a main-deck Acidic Slime is worth it,
(c) multiple board options (a recent mini-green deck won a 16 player tournament with 4 copies of Great Sable Stag, etc.)
I will of course update the deck with testing results; but in honesty the deck is already performing pretty well against two of the three decks you mention (Affinity & Tron). I do, however, need to test a little more against Deaths Shadow.
I have enough matches with Affinity and Tron to say with relative surety that we are actually a little favored in games 2-3 and can absolutely win game one....I can't confidently say the same for Deaths Shadow yet; but I will test at least 20 matches today to see if any trends pop up. I would need at least 100 matches with each (with the final/stable board) to exclaim exact levels of favor (I.e 60/40, etc.) but can say that at minimum the deck is viable in the current meta (i.e. Has the ability to reasonably beat the decks within the "meta"). As I get more testing in I will provide more detailed insight into each matchup.
3 months ago
I wouldn't make them tribal decks. I would just pick a "commander" that reflects that colors greatest strengths. You might at well make the format modern as well if its just going to be the set 5 decks.
Here are some Ideas for my commanders and their edicts.
6 months ago
Agreed TheDevicer. I've faced many a blue player, and there are a lot of ways to deal with mono-blue decks. However, not knowing more about the player, their skill levels, their current local meta game, their collection, or even what deck their playing, I was just suggesting a strategy and providing some samples to kick start the conversation. Are Great Sable Stag and Mistcutter Hydra great cards? No. But since both cards are under a dollar each, they are an affordable start and .
Yes, limiting a blue player's options in one strategy. So is overwhelming the player with more threats than they can counter. Another tactic is pushing that turn clock faster than the blue player wants to run. For example, swinging each turn with a Slith Firewalker or Taurean Mauler or similar creature that keeps getting bigger. And I can't think of a blue player that hasn't hated me dropping a Teferi's Puzzle Box on the table. There goes planning anything long term.
My Pacifism deck gives players all kinds of trouble. In the early game blue players defend me because I have more Wrath effects and creature control. Later in the game, they turn on me because I'm screwing up their strategies too.
6 months ago
As a long time blue player, if you cast Great Sable Stag and Mistcutter Hydra vs me, I'm 100% ok with that. Seriously. What are you doing? Putting me on a 5 turn clock? At turn 3 to 5 or something? And that's being generous.
Nah mate. Instead of trying to put down resilient threats, you need to manage my ability to play the game. That's how you shut down a blue player.