At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, that player loses 1 life for each card in his or her hand more than you have in your hand.
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Dark Suspicions Discussion
4 months ago
I did a gatherer search for black and blue cards that deal damage during each upkeep, and the results are interesting: Most of them dealt with hand size.
- Black Vise
- Ebony Owl Netsuke
- Iron Maiden
- Mask of Intolerance
- Misers' Cage
- Paupers' Cage
- The Rack
- Blood Clock
- Wheel of Torture
- Dark Suspicions
- Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage
- Price of Knowledge
- Stabwhisker the Odious
- Quest for the Nihil Stone
- Shrieking Affliction
There are only 2 unconditional damage artifacts:
And there were two other outliers:
1 year ago
I actually made a deck pretty similar to this one. Her it is if you want to check it out: Mogis the hate god
what I found out through play testing is that creatures more or less suck for group slug strategies. There are plenty of really good creatures that fit this deck such as Zo-Zu the Punisher however I've found that if you relly too much on your creatures for incremental damage they are too susceptible to removal and board wipes.
In your case I believe you can safely get rid of any creature that produces mana. In most edh deck you only need about 10ish mana rocks and right now you have 11 as regular artifacts so I think your ramp will be fine.
Besides ramping creatures I believe that cutting these cards would also be advantageous:
- Netherborn Phalanx
- Indulgent Tormentor I don't really like targeted effects like this with mogis
- Fleshbag Marauder
With all those cards cut I'd then start putting in more group slug type enchantments. The reason I like these enchantments more is because unlike creatures, most board wipes dont hit them and most people dont have a ton of enchantment removal. There are tons of these group slug type cards so I'm not going to say which ones would be best for your deck because most of them would work. But I like these ones:
I would also just reconsider these cards, I haven't personally played them so I can't be certain of how strong they are, but they dont seem to quite fit the deck.
- Cruel Reality It seems tempting but it only targets one opponent and is super expensive. I don't believe its worth its cost
- Browbeat I would personally rather have guaranteed card draw, try Ancient Craving instead
- Mana Geyser lots of mana, but what are you spending it on? if you had more X costing spells then it may be worth it but for now think of how bad of a top deck this would be with no cards in hand.
And of course I would strongly recommend running some dual lands to help smooth out your mana consistency. Here are some of the really budget ones:
- Akoum Refuge
- Bloodfell Caves
- Canyon Slough
- Cinder Barrens
- Cinder Marsh
- Foreboding Ruins
- Graven Cairns a little more pricey but really good for the cost
- Lantern-Lit Graveyard
- Lava Tubes
- Rakdos Carnarium
- Rakdos Guildgate
- Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace especially good in this deck
- Rocky Tar Pit
- Tresserhorn Sinks
- Urborg Volcano
You have a strong core here once again but I just feel that some of your card slots could be better spent. Hope all this helps
2 years ago
I agree with Hyperalgialysis. Drop some lands!
Forced Fruition is brutal for your opponents.
Iron Maiden is alright, just happened to come across it today so I thought I'd share. Skullcage is interesting as well, and Dark Suspicions has a similar affect. Sadly these happen at the upkeep which is before the draw step, but they could still do some damage. Mindcrank is a little different but could still fit in well. Gratuitous Violence is perfect for abusing Nekusar's ability.
Nekusar is a very interesting commander, and there are many options as far as his decks go. Best of luck!
2 years ago
Seizan, Perverter of Truth is a really nice addition to Nekusar EDH, since he burns, and allows Nekusar to burn your opponents some more.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, I can only see two wheels in this deck (Time Reversal and Whispering Madness). In my opinion, you cannot have a Nekusar EDH without a decent number of wheels. I would suggest Wheel of Fate, Reforge the Soul, Molten Psyche, Windfall, Winds of Change, and Magus of the Wheel.
2 years ago
2 years ago
alright, so I did some more digging - I've been kicking around a similar deck idea for a while. here's some of the stuff you might be interested in:
Pain for everyone:
Citadel of Pain, Copper Tablet, Power Surge (read the errata for this one, it makes more sense, Shadows of the Past, Pyrohemia, Pestilence, Dark Suspicions (or Bulwark, depending. kinda mutually exclusive), Rivalry, Skullcage, Wheel of Torture, Iron Maiden and Circle of Affliction
No creatures for You!
Death Pits of Rath (which couples well with Pyrohemia and Pestilence from earlier), along with Circle of Flame, Heat Stroke, Magmatic Core, Mudslide, Wave of Terror, War's Toll, Storage Matrix, and Noetic Scales.
Punishment and protection
probably some stuff in here you considered already, just figured I'd sift through this stuff and see if anything was to your liking
2 years ago
This looks like a lot of fun, great to see these blasts from the past get used! One card that you might consider for ramp is Thran Turbine, could give you a free cycle each turn. As for lower CMC creatures, some that I think could be useful are Cryptbreaker, Stoic Champion, Ruthless Sniper, Cho-Arrim Alchemist, Pack Rat, Skirk Ridge Exhumer, Undertaker, and Devout Witness, since they get a different kind of value out of discards than cycling. Similarly, Key to the City and Smuggler's Copter can allow you to use discards for different kinds of value.
As far as other cards related to cycling go, did you consider Ash Barrens, Gilded Light, Stir the Sands, Unearth, Radiant's Judgment, Street Wraith, Viscera Dragger, and Pitiless Vizier? I'm not sure if those fit in perfectly, but they might be worth considering.
If you wanted to make all players discard but have you benefit more from it, you might consider cards like Oppression and Necrogen Mists. I also think Library of Leng is worth looking at, but it might not fit your strategy.
Do you think getting Hellbent is something you are looking to do with this deck? If the former, maybe something like Gibbering Descent, Asylum Visitor, Dark Suspicions, Grim Strider, or Hollowborn Barghest could be interesting. In either case, some card draw like Phyrexian Arena could be very useful.
Also, watch out for Stabilizer!