Creature — Elf
Trample (This creature can deal excess combat damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking if lethal combat damage would be dealt to all blocking creatures.)
When Sylvan Messenger enters the battlefield, reveal the top four cards of your library. Put all Elf cards revealed this way into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
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Sylvan Messenger Discussion
1 month ago
Thanks Apollo_Paladin, both Sylvan Messenger and Vanquisher's Banner are both good suggestions, little torn between the two, possibly slightly more inclined to the Sylvan Messenger which will work Wirewood Symbiote
Throne of the God-Pharaoh in your deck gives me some ideas... :)
1 month ago
Love elf builds, +1
Since you mention you're looking for Card Draw, maybe take a look at Sylvan Messenger and/or Vanquisher's Banner . I use both to pretty brutal effect in my mono-green Legacy elf build Tae'rin Terror (Elf Zerg) and maybe there's 1 or 2 other suggestions in there for your Sideboard.
3 months ago
Though I'm curious why you aren't playing some cards, like Skullclamp Serpent's Soul-Jar Pact of the Serpent Harald, King of Skemfar and Sylvan Messenger , I like your list a lot, and it helped me come across some of the weirder cards like Alpha Authority . I just think you should cut Nissa Revane . At least in my playgroup, Wellwisher , being less vulnerable to flyers, is better, and the life-gain isn't that important anyway.
3 months ago
0/0. The deck was played back in the late 90's, but it was a very different deck back then. I started tinkering with this deck again back around 2018, but never made a serious commitment. When I finally did, COVID hit... and yeah.
Thanks again for all of your feedback! I'm going to take a serious look at adding in Sylvan Messenger . I'm not sure how I overlooked this card before, but thanks for bringing it up again.
Vanquisher's Banner - I'm just so torn on this, ugh! It is obvious why this needs to go into the deck, but I hate the thought of:
Coat of Arms
and losing the +X/+X bonus, that's pretty significant for how this deck goes from "ohh, look at those cute little elves," to "Holy ^#[email protected]*"
Glimpse of Nature
and upping overall the CMC
As for artifact hate, I decided to totally dump the Naturalizes from the deck, exclusively relying on Reclamation Sage being pulled from the sideboard. I swapped in Green Sun's Zenith but those might be removed after reviewing some of your other suggestions.
4 months ago
I think Sylvan Messenger 's ability is even BETTER than card draw since it's essentially a miniature mass Elf Tutor. Unlike normal Card Draw, this won't force you to overdraw your lands/instants/sorceries and instead keep them in your library so that excessive use doesn't leave you too vulnerable to a Mill Out Loss (either by an opponent's deck, or just your own doing).
4 months ago
Responding to your post there, glad you found mine helpful.
You really can't beat the card draw potential of Sylvan Messenger in an Elf build. There's other Mono-Green stuff like Explore , but at least for my Elf build (also focused on Card Draw) I haven't found a better combo than Vanquisher Banners, Sylvan Messengers, and low-mana cast and/or mana-producing Elf creatures. Beyond that, it's just what you decide to do with all of your mana since (so long as you're running sufficient copies of each) it's a pretty reliable mechanic.
The Priest of Titania's you already run are primarily what I use for cranking out Vanquisher banner on like Turn 3, and once that's in play you can just speed through stuff. Lay out a Messenger with a sufficient mana base, and not only are you then playing those Elves that turn from your hand, but with the Banner in play you're also drawing even more from each (and can possibly keep going).
I'm not exaggerating when I say that skillful use of mana-tap elves, Vitalize (another one you might benefit from; often overlooked), and the aforementioned cards that I've been able to play out 12+ creatures from my deck/hand in a single turn...and the potential is there to just keep going...and going...and going. Not quite your infinite mana cycle, but more than enough for the Win Conditions I've chosen.
You should give my Deck a look over if you have any doubts or want some more examples (deck descrip. is pretty thorough on that one) and try adding them in. I think you'll be quite impressed personally. Good luck!
4 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions! I've actually been meaning to get back to you on this and pick your brain a little more, but never managed to make the time for it. The release of TimeSpiral Remastered (and therefore replacing Bojuka Bog and Reclamation Sage with the old card look) however gave me the required kick in the pants that I needed.
I'm not sure on Tribal Unity - I'd probably add in more Warcallers at that point.
Helix Pinnacle in the deck beforehand, but giving my opponent even one turn to counter left me with a sour taste in my mouth. Sands of Delirium might be a better fit (and has been added to the maybeboard).
Sylvan Messenger - card draw! That's really the biggest issue this deck has had is it can burn itself out in situations and be left with an empty hand. any other suggestions for card draw (hence Weird Harvest in the maybeboard) would be appreciated.
4 months ago
Hi raspberryfish25 Thanks, I like playing it. Just finished a quick 1-on-1 game versus my brother-in-law's deck (all about stealing cards) and lost to my own elves. As for the mentioned cards, I've looked into all the mentioned cards in early builds, some of them will definitely make the 99 in future upgrades.
Skyshroud Poacher - Pricy but spicy, still in the back of my head for a future upgrade.
Wolverine Riders - Have played this card, but didn't do well, yielded me a few extra tokens, but got removed fairly quickly, might try it again.
Sylvan Messenger - I'm not the biggest fan of digging a few deep in the hope to fetch a good card, you can whiff easily.
Elvish Guidance - Is in the deck, done great work so far.
Harald, King of Skemfar - Like Sylvan messenger, it can whiff so hard, Land, Land, Dork, Artifact, Enchantment. Also, Tyvar Kell has to be in the deck too, to get the most out of it. Abomination of Llanowar would be the better choice in this build.
Elvish Harbinger - Like the Poacher, very good.
Sylvan Offering - This can produce an insane amount of Tokens and a big beater Treefolk token with the amount of mana the deck can produce, the only drawback for me is giving my opponent the same amount in return, I will try it out, this and Stoneforge Masterwork might work, but Lathril depended.
Elvish Clancaller - An early 2 drop Lord in play is always nice, but it doesn't come with extras, like the other lords.
Elvish Champion - Also on my future upgrade list, the best Lord around for sure.