Submerge

Submerge

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If an opponent controls a Forest and you control an Island, you may play Submerge without paying its mana cost.

Put target creature on top of its owner's library.

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Casual Legal
Limited Legal
Leviathan Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Custom Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Vintage Legal

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Submerge Discussion

zamiero on Vial and Ghost!

2 months ago

3> Ahhh I've been wanting to play with Obosh, the Preypiercer and Angrath's Marauders - glad you found a spot for them. While you're at it, you could also consider other "damage doublers" such as Wound Reflection and Fiendish Duo. I've thought about a Vial-Smasher deck with a White partner just to add Gisela, Blade of Goldnight.

3> I see you enjoy big monsters and X-spells here. Oh to be young again... but seriously, this seems like a good deck to play them in as you would be rewarded. Instants are your friend, as you can Smash Vials on everyone's turn! No Comet Storm?

3> I would be worried about Vial-Smasher getting nuked from orbit as soon as your turn passes and it's no longer indestructible. You'll find Heroic Intervention and Slippery Bogbonder will help with targeted Exile removal. You already have Destroy and Sacrifice covered I see.

3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:

3> I see some cost-reduced and commander-free spells in there, but you have a limited suite. While doing research for my thoughts on Vial-Smasher, I found the following might be helpful - list is just copy/paste, so it will include some White and/or Blue cards:

Matrixxx999 on Jormungandr the Powersnake

3 months ago

lorthosthetidebaker

Thank you so much for the great suggestions and upvote!

I don’t understand how I missed the Isochron Scepter, it’s just a great card that will be excellent in both control and as a value engine! This card will definitely be added to the deck!

Fabricate - another great suggestion, now I just need somehow to find a slot for it in the deck

Song of the Dryads - I have my doubts about this card. I've been using it in my decks for a long time, and this card has proven itself just fine. But its usefulness is justified rather only in mono-green decks, where we are limited to the choice of answers. Since in our case we have access to the blue color, I'd rather use another counterspell instead of it, or another stax permanent like Back to Basics.

Submerge - a very unusual and very flavourful card. It is captivating that it can be used without paying the mana cost of the spell, this is always useful when my stax pieces are on the battlefield. Also, players using the forest are very common. I will definitely test this spell.

Thanks for the help! If anything comes to mind, be sure to let me know.

LitchOubliette on Commander Staples Cube

3 months ago

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lorthosthetidebaker on Jormungandr the Powersnake

3 months ago

Came for the simic, stayed for the layout.

Since your strategy leans on Crucible of Worlds or Words of Wind (which is an awesome card that I now want to build around, thanks for that), I'd consider adding Fabricate and an Isochron Scepter package. Scepter could be flexible here with either a Growth Spiral or Counterspell tucked under it.

Song of the Dryads is among the best removal spells in commander and would slot in nicely here. In addition, since you're giving them the forest, you could play Submerge which fits the world serpent unleashing the sea.

Overall, awesome deck. I play a lot of simic and sea monsters. The only thing I don't like about Aesi is that it took wizards this long to print it.

azja on Yuriko (Optimized) Primer

5 months ago

@Snake57 No problem! I love to talk about Yuriko, so your questions and suggestions are always welcome!

My plan is to cut 1 island, 1 swamp and Darkslick Shores for Sea Gate Restoration, Agadeem's Awakening and Clearwater Pathway.

As for Yawgmoth's Will, I think most Yuriko decks are fast enough that we can't bring out the card's full potential. I find this deck wins sometime around turn 6-7. At that point in the game, I usually have around 6-7 mana to work with, which only leaves 3-4 mana to cast things from my graveyard after casting it. But since you have one, I would definitely say to try it out. Let me know how it goes!

I actually just bought myself a Commandeer! So I'll be trying it out soon, but I haven't decided what to cut for it yet. It seems like exiling 2 cards is quite a steep price, but if it counters an early Pithing Needle or Dictate of Erebos, it's probably worth it.

I think Snuff Out is an amazing card for Yuriko decks. My playgroup is heavily focused around black decks, so I unfortunately can't play it often. But in a blind meta, Snuff Out is my second favourite removal spell after Deadly Rollick.

I also think that Dismember is a great card for Yuriko, I've considered running it for a long time. I just don't think its as effective as Deadly Rollick, Submerge or Curtains' Call, and it doesn't hit as hard as Consign / Oblivion or Commit / Memory. So its mostly an issue of finding a place for it, rather than it not being good enough!

I had Cyclonic Rift in the deck for a long time. I found myself not being able to hit 7 mana consistently, so it ended up being a 2 mana bounce spell too often. Coastal Breach is usually pretty strong, but Evacuation sometimes feels lackluster. I've been thinking of replacing Evacuation with Devastation Tide for a while, seeing how consistently this deck can cast Temporal Mastery for its miracle cost.

Hopefully this was helpful! Feel free to post questions/suggestions for me anytime, friend!

jakeelephant006 on its too late they are already under your bed

8 months ago

This deck performs very well with some decently large deficiencies. I think you need to cut some weaker cards (sorceries and creatures mostly) and add in more Ninjas and ninja synergies.

Cards to Cut: Creatures: Definite cuts are Jeskai Infiltrator, but I'd also heavily consider trimming Dark Impostor, Deathcult Rogue, Etrata, the Silencer, and Nezumi Cutthroat.

Sorceries: Definitely cut Hour of Eternity, Kefnet's Last Word, Paranoid Delusions and consider trimming Ghostform, Slip Through Space, or Stealth Mission.

Artifacts, Enchantments, Instants, Planeswalkers, and Lands: I would definitely cut Briber's Purse, Fatal Push, and Vraska, Scheming Gorgon while also giving thought to the merits of including Skygames, Bontu's Monument, Forge of Heroes, Unclaimed Territory, and of, or at least the Amonkhet, cycling lands.

The cards I have recommended are either slow, have low to zero synergy with the rest of the deck, or are typically weak in commander.

Cards to Add Creatures: Ninjas, ninjas, and more ninjas (plus some cheaper unblockables for good measure). There are 19 Ninjas in mtg history (excluding changelings). You have 11 in this deck. I think you ought to have more. The cheapest are Mistblade Shinobi, Okiba-Gang Shinobi, Skullsnatcher, Throat Slitter, and Walker of Secret Ways. Higure, the Still Wind and Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni are both reasonable splurges in terms of powerful Ninjas to acquire. Now for other creatures to enable Ninjitsu. First off, I could have included Changeling Outcast in the last section since it is also a Ninja and you should absolutely be running it in here. Other small unblockables for you to Ninjitsu into are Gudul Lurker, Slither Blade, Tormented Soul, Faerie Seer, Mothdust Changeling, Gingerbrute, Dimir Infiltrator, Baleful Strix, Invisible Stalker, Augury Owl, Sage Owl, Spire Owl, and Cloud of Faeries. All of these cards are less than 3 cmc, and are either entirely unblockable or have good etb/ltb or dealing combat damage synergy (and are mostly pretty cheap too). I'd recommend adding at least 3 or 4 of them in addition to the above ninjas.

Other cards: This section is mostly for general things that you could do to make this deck more consistent and enjoyable to pilot, but there are a couple specific synergies I think you're missing out on. They're both pretty intertwined so I'll just address them together. I think you could be putting in a few more cards that are good to reveal off of Yuriko's trigger and ways to manipulate the top of your library so you get those card when they are most impactful. I am referring to cards like Treasure Cruise, Sibsig Muckdraggers, Temporal Trespass, Dig Through Time, Draco, Consign / Oblivion, Murderous Cut, Far / Away, Curtains' Call, Into the Story, Submerge, Commandeer, Commit / Memory, Discovery / Dispersal, Rags / Riches, In Garruk's Wake, and any other high cost card that has an alternate mana cost, mana reducing ability, split card, or is a high impact card. Then you could also throw in a few ways to manipulate the top of your library like Brainstorm, Ponder, Serum Visions, Tamiyo's Epiphany, and Crystal Ball. The only other synegystic thing you could put in here is making your other creatures Ninjas as well with Conspiracy, Xenograft, Arcane Adaptation, and Amorphous Axe.

Otherwise, you could probably add in some more ramp (Sol Ring, Mind Stone, Star Compass, etc.), card draw (see cantrips above and Last Thoughts), board wipes (could probably replace Bontu's Last Reckoning with some of the ones from the last section or just add those ones or some other good boardwipes) and spot removal or counterspells (I don't see a lot of good ways to deal w/ non-creature permanents in here).

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