Orvar, the All-Form
Legendary Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, if it targets one or more other permanents you control, create a token that's a copy of one of those permanents.
When a spell or ability an opponent controls causes you to discard this card, create a token that's a copy of target permanent.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Orvar, the All-Form Discussion
1 week ago
You are correct; permanents that have left the battlefield before Orvar's trigger resolves can't be copied by it. This is answered in the rulings on Orvar, the All-Form:
As the first triggered ability tries to resolve, the spell that caused it to trigger and that spell’s targets are checked again. Ignore any target of the spell that has left the battlefield by that point. If all of the permanents you controlled that were targets have left the battlefield by that point, the triggered ability will do nothing and no token will be created. If at least one permanent you control that’s a target is still on the battlefield, the triggered ability will resolve, even if that permanent is now an illegal target for the spell. (2021-02-05)
OmicronPrime on None
1 week ago
Scenario: opponent casts Quasiduplicate on his Agent of Treachery with Orvar, the All-Form out. If I Path to Exile the Agent with Quasiduplicate on the stack does he get any copies of Agent? I think if i respond to the Orvar trigger and path Agent then, he doesn't get anything?
1 month ago
Nightmare Shepherd is one of the best as it adds a lot of functionality with no upfront cost and allows you to exploit sacrifice mechanics like evoke. Creating token clones with etb/ltb can easily become overpowered, especially when combined with populate. In fact I built a great ETB Roon EDH deck around it using cards like Yosei, the Morning Star, Protean Hulk and Wayfaring Temples that clone themselves. Token clone generation is amazing because it's essentially ETB blinking as a side effect. You have some cards that do it already listed under abuse but I think the mechanic is good enough and has enough viable cards that it might be worth making a new category for it.
Token clone makers
Stolen Identity Blade of Selves Mirror Mockery Zndrsplt's Judgment Repudiate / Replicate Hour of Eternity Supplant Form Dance of Many Minion Reflector Bramble Sovereign Progenitor Mimic Anointed Procession Quasiduplicate Rhys the Redeemed Back from the Brink Dual Nature Mimic Vat Rite of Replication Song of the Worldsoul Helm of the Host Doubling Season Parallel Lives Battle for Bretagard Mechanized Production Orvar, the All-Form Prototype Portal Saheeli, the Gifted Saheeli's Artistry Seance Second Harvest Soul Foundry Spitting Image Splinter Twin Replication Technique Saheeli Rai Mirror March Mirrorworks Molten Echoes Mythos of Illuna Sublime Epiphany Flamerush Rider Felhide Spiritbinder Littjara Mirrorlake God-Pharaoh's Gift Hofri Ghostforge Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Followed Footsteps Nightmare Shepherd Osgir, the Reconstructor Echo Storm Cackling Counterpart Esika's Chariot Feldon of the Third Path Flameshadow Conjuring Trickster's Talisman & of course anything with populate.
Also some other blink type cards:
Blink-Yorion, Sky Nomad Conditional bounce- Cunning Evasion ETB clone- Wall of Stolen Identity Graveyard blink- Cauldron of Souls, Twilight Shepherd, Adarkar Valkyrie ETB Abuse- Jalira, Master Polymorphist, Proteus Staff, Master Transmuter. Listing the ones that specifically clone or blink artifacts in their own group might be helpful too.
4 months ago
- Have Orvar in the field and a mutated (or not) Vadrok
- Cast something like Chain of Vapor targeting Vadrok, Orvar triggers creating a copy of Vadrok you can mutate onto and the original Vadrok is returned to hand
- Mutate Vadrok onto the copy and re-cast your bounce spell and something else from the graveyard due to the two triggers.
I guess if you have dockside under Vadrok then you could go infinite with this
4 months ago
You might like these: Zada, Hedron Grinder , Mirrorwing Dragon , Orvar, the All-Form , Cackling Counterpart , Quasiduplicate , Rite of Replication , Tempt with Reflections , Zndrsplt's Judgment , Replication Technique , Stolen Identity , Saheeli's Artistry , Sublime Epiphany , Clone Legion , Followed Footsteps , Ghired's Belligerence , Pain Magnification
4 months ago
I would swap some of the ramp cards higher on the mana curve to more 2-mana ramp. With your commander being 4 CMC, the more 2 mana ramp you have the more likely you'll get them out one turn early. So I'm looking at things like Quandrix Cultivator (cool card regardless) and Nissa's Expedition . Maybe switch them for a Mind Stone , or Three Visits , or Farseek (this last one with an added inclusion of lands like Breeding Pool if it's within your budget, or more budget cards like Rimewood Falls or Mystic Sanctuary )
If you want to play with planeswalkers, Jace, Mirror Mage might be a cool addition.
Orvar, the All-Form is a sweet card, but I don't think this deck has enough instants and sorceries that could trigger his ability for the inclusion to be worth it. Either cut Orvar, or make sure you start adding more spells that can take advantage of it (maybe more clone token making spells).
4 months ago
Thank you for the insightful comment. Really, this deck is made for casual purposes, hence the lack of a win-con (although I like to think that making a lot of copies of creatures and drawing a bunch of cards is a win as is). Professor of Symbology is in here to help get rid of extra copies of Mavinda, Students' Advocate and Orvar, the All-Form , I found that running four copies of each usually results in a few unwanted copies sitting in your hand at one point or another during the game. As for the Lessons, I simply forgot to add them to the deck, might add them if the deck gains any traction. Selfless Savior is nice since it allows me to use mana later in the game on spells to draw cards rather than holding up mana. Really, at the end of the day, I'm aware that this deck will by no means reach the top of standard. I simply wanted to build a deck around Mavinda and Orvar, since I think there's definitely something to be said for using the two together. In the past I've tried building Orvar decks with higher average CMC's, but it always ended with Orvar getting killed on sight, which is why I wanted to lower the curve with cheaper creatures and spells. If I end up playing this deck on arena, make a bunch of 2/2s and draw most of my library only to get hit with a Doomskar, I'll probably mark that game as a win.
5 months ago
Thanks for the Sprite Dragon comment, I didn't even think about that and I knew Goblin Arsonist wasn't the best option out there. As for Shatterskull Smashing Flip I know it is better but Volcanic Geyser is an alternate win-condition late game when I have basically nothing left but have quite a few lands. As for cards like Opt & Crash Through they don't target any creatures so they don't synergize as well with Orvar, The All-Forming or Goldspan Dragon . And Shell Shield and Infuriate don't really do it for me because they have one ability that is terrible early turns where I don't really have any creatures on board and the mana at the same time to protect them. As for Cleansing Wildfire , it creates extra mana for me (as long as I have Orvar, the All-Form out and lets me draw a card too. Now Go for Blood I see the concern but it is one of the few removal cards I have and if I don't need it I can always cycle it. It also targets my creature which is great again with orval, the all-form. The only reason I run counters mainboard is to better protect orval, the all-form who can't create copies of himself if targeted by my other spells. Hopefully, that is a better explanation.