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Leonin Shikari Discussion
5 days ago
Hey, I really like your take on this type of deck! Your primer gave me a whole new opinion of Leonin Shikari, I always viewed her as a way to combat removal spells not as a combat trick. Do you find she works well without Puresteel Paladin out? Also how does running 32 lands feel for you? I notice your curve is relatively low, I just can't get below 36 without losing consistency, though my curve is relatively higher. My last question is more of a suggestion but I notice you're running 2 of the 3 pieces of the Kaldra set have you considered running Helm of Kaldra to add a 9/9 beater? If you have out of curiosity why not? As I said I really enjoyed your take on this deck and would appreciate your opinion on my deck You are Over-Encumbered I ask because most of what I wrote seems to be parallel with what you wrote in your primer.
It's funny through researching and testing while building my deck yours never came up I just happened to see your comment on a post and noticed you made a mono-white edh deck and checked it out on a whim lol.
5 days ago
Hey thanks for the constructive criticism, this list is the product of a week of theory crafting. Everything is a bit jumbled and the curve isn't great. I didn't have time to get a description in yet either, sorry about that. What I want for control here is not a hard lock but something more akin to hate bears and winning through attrition. This deck isn't going to win in the first 6 turns, let's just put that out there. I'm looking at turn 7 or 8 probably, which means I need to disrupt turns 1-6 for other players. That said, I think I'll be removing Iroas, God of Victory for Spirit of the Labyrinth and possibly Argentum Armor for Aura of Silence.
You are probably right about Leonin Shikari but it's new to me so I'm not sure how effective it is. I assumed passing around Swiftfoot Boots, Skullclamp and the swords at instant speed would be worth a slot? If it doesn't work out I may go with Ethersworn Canonist.
I think I have to pass on MLD, my LGS is full of competent players but they aren't degenerates heh. Same reason Blood Moon was passed up here, I can win playing mostly fair but I will still try to find a spot for Static Orb since it's just great with War's Toll and Urabrask the Hidden.
You know of any really good hate cards in red similar to Stranglehold but doesn't so much target the mana base?
5 days ago
I tried playtesting this deck and it felt...weird. It didn't output much offensive pressure, and it seemed to have too few proper stax cards to survive as a control deck.
(Obviously you just built it so it needs some tuning, of course.)
Have you taken a look at some of the Gisela stax/control decks on this site? They might help you find some more cards.
Leonin Shikari seems strange here. Might be a cuttable card.
What's your meta like? It's easier to tailor a hate package once you know your opponents' decks :)
1 week ago
Sword of Feast and Famine is probably the one card that most encouraged me to not build my Sram deck. You basically get double mana at that point, which is obviously very useful when drawing off of nearly everything you play thanks to your general, drawing 1 (or 2 with double strike) off of Sword of Fire and Ice, and/or drawing 1 off of Puresteel Paladin.
You could add tutors like Open the Armory and Steelshaper's Gift to really get things out of hand. Should be swinging for 21+ unblockable by turn 9-ish, all while Sram is virtually untouchable to colors (various swords) and destroy effects (Darksteel Plate). Consider adding Recruiter of the Guard, which helps find Puresteel Paladin or Leonin Shikari, which are obviously important. Pretty nasty deck. Not sure I'd want to play against it unless I'm running an equally-fast deck or dedicated artifact hate (which is why I didn't actually build mine).
2 weeks ago
Hi Barric; you have 3 of the 4 pieces of the Ultimate Sunforger toolbox; Sunforger itself, Puresteel Paladin and Mistveil Plains, I would add Leonin Shikari so that you can tutor an Instant, play it for free, tap Mistveil to put it back on the bottom, with Leonin & Puresteel re-attach Sunforger immediately for free, and be ready to cast that Path to Exile at once. I also play Brass Squire in case I don't have Puresteel on the board. If you like that combo maybe add a few more instants, like Wild Ricochet and Eerie Interlude, which is board wipe protection.
Another trick I use, since you are playing Emeria Shepherd, is to play Ruin Ghost, once that combo gets going you are recurring 2 perms directly to the battlefield each turn, hopefully you have Haste! And don't forget to tap that Plains for mana before you flicker it with Ruin Ghost...
3 weeks ago
I agree. I think, considering that most of your spells are colorless, that Pearl Medallion is borderline worthless. Knight of the White Orchid is the man, but he's strictly worse than Puresteel Paladin or even Leonin Shikari if you're weighting more toward artifacts than auras. I do think that's where Sram is better, just because their cost is so much less prohibitive and you can reduce them with Cloud Key, Helm of Awakening or even Semblance Anvil if you want to get greedy.
With you 100% on Hedron Archive. There are no times where I draw it that I would not rather have a Thran Dynamo. Do Sram's Expertise, Auriok Edgewright, Nahiri, the Lithomancer or Kor Duelist do anything in this list? Giving dudes double strike is cool if you're an aggressive list, but Sram trends more toward combo and one-shot commander damage. Maybe we could look for cuts there?
3 weeks ago
Thanks for your ideas ClockworkSwordfish, tried both and found mixed results. Love Kemba, Kha Regent and she will stay. Commune with Nature although very good at times, I found that Steelshaper's Gift is always useful. You realy want the deck to just keep putting out equipment and it will just draw into whatever it needs. I have now added Swiftfoot Boots and Leonin Shikari to the mainboard. Although just like Kemba, Kha Regent they ane not needed to win they add some great help to the deck.
1 month ago
It helps if you try and replace more of the spells with artifacts when possible to increase Akiri's Synergy.
Heres a quick list of what you definitely dont need: Banefire, Brute Force, Deflecting Palm, Goblin War Drums, Magnetic Theft, Dispatch, Accorders' Shield, Haunted Platemail, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Temple of the False Gods, Paradise Mantle.
Heres some stuff you might want to consider: Dolmen Gate, Iroas, God of Victory, Cathars' Crusade, Legion's Initiative, Stoneforge Mystic, Relic Seeker, Puresteel Paladin, Leonin Shikari, Sword of the Animist, Skullclamp, Vulshok Battlemaster, Knight of the White Orchid, Land Tax, Weathered Wayfarer, Legion Loyalist, Assemble the Legion, Oreskos Explorer
Once you've decided on what you do and don't need you can then upgrade them each slot for slot. Also if you're new at EDH or Magic, I'd suggest waiting before entering Boros Colors. They require a lot more work to fine tune into a real threat compared to nearly every other color combination.