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Creature — Human Scout
Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could cast an instant.)
When Village Bell-Ringer enters the battlefield, untap all creatures you control.
Village Bell-Ringer Discussion
5 days ago
Smokestack and Assemble the Legion seems fun. For mana though perhaps Phyrexian Altar + Solemnity + Pyreheart Wolf or Bogardan Phoenix or Lesser Masticore or Twilight Shepherd . Or the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Village Bell-Ringer and keep sacing the copies to Phyrexian Altar Now that is sexy.
5 days ago
5 days ago
@Burg+1: Not that I want to be a little racy or anything, but... BOROS FOREVER! XP But, seriously, Black Panther Parody Jokes aside (I actually like that film & wished I'd address some aspects to film reviewers, & even those of such lineage got wrong; but it might sound wrong to them.)
In seriousness though, I'm just starting on Tier 3 for now. Such irony made me switch Mox Alacorn (PX) to Yet another Scarecrow... for having 1 Power higher, & having an alternate ability not even Alloy Myr could ever dream of after the events of New Phyrexia.
I was thinking of Ancestral Statue at first, but Maybe I should do some number crunching...
Test Subjective: Village Bell-Ringer
Test 1: Cast Scuttlemutt , then Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker . Tap Scuttlemutt for mana. Cast Village Bell-Ringer untapping The Mad B*tch . Tap the Dog again for mana, Tap Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to create a copy of Village Bell-Ringer , untapping Scuttlemutt & Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker . Keep tapping Jack Russel, the Terrier Scarecrow for mana, rinse & repeat.
I just don't know if it's legit. Here's a list of phases & steps in case you're wondering...
- Beginning Phase
- Untap Step
- Upkeep Step
- Draw Step
- Main Phase
- Combat Phase
- Beginning of Combat Step
- Declare Attackers Step
- Declare Blockers Step
- Combat Damage Step
- End of Combat Step
- Ending Phase
- End Step
- Cleanup Step
I would, MAYBE make that much mana during Main Phase, but does this mana empty when unused? Definetely will suck if it will... Well, at least I have a prototype for now...
3 weeks ago
If you're on the look out for more control-y includes cards from the Fiend Hunter family (o-rings on sticks,) are almost always big butts in the 1/3 range, Gaddock Teeg , is a nice include but you'd need to switch up your sig to include him: so far I've found that dealing twenty consistently with this type of deck is relatively easy and Triumph of the Hordes is a bit of overkill that's likely get you hated out so switching to something else for the Teeg include (which shuts off almost every other deck at the table, since planeswalkers are more often than not cmc 4+) might be worth considering its.
Champion of Lambholt is nice evasion since you strategy is to puke creatures on the board. Semi-asymetric boardwipes like Dusk//Dawn and Wave of Reckoning are also really good, but remember that if you play Teeg, they nonbo; Magus of the Disk is a 2/4 board wipe on theme that Teeg doesn't turn off though.
Rhox Faithmender is the reason my record life total with the deck is 120 (three activations of Huatli for 11 doubled is 88 life plus starting life total and a net twelve life from somewhere).
Mirage Mirror is a second copy of anything in your or your opponents decks.
and lastly, Joven's Ferrets is a meme.
1 month ago
Let me go through your points.
- xD What? cEDH doesn't make you win by turn 3? Most lists can't do that, midrange combo like Kess Turns and Yisan lists aim for turns 4-5ish and use a mix of removal and hate to stop faster opponents. Control/Stax decks from Control Zur, Blood Pod, or Derevi win much later, after locking out faster combo opponents with permission, removal, stax, and hate.
It is true you need to be affecting the board state in a heavy way by turn three, but you definitely do not need to win by then.
- Wrong, Boros does have efficient infinite combos that do not need to spend a long amount of time to physically go through each trigger, such as the popular cEDH Aurelia, the Warleader + Helm of the Host list, using a stax-core for the list, as well as an abundance of tutors, such as Steelshaper's Gift or Stoneforge Mystic to set up the combo.
Another popular competitive viable Boros combo was using Imperial Recruiter with Recruiter of the Guard , to fetch Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , to copy the Recruiter of choice to fetch Combat Celebrant or Village Bell-Ringer to go infinite with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker .
Point is, Boros always had good win conditions that went infinite and were effectively 1-card combos too, (Just need Helm + Commander or Recruiter+what it tutors for in deck) for what it is worth.
- Aurelia, being a strong combo-enabler also happens to remove the argument that prior to Feather, WotC only made bad commanders that only revolve around creature-beatdown strategies or dumb tribal shenanigans.
Gisela was often used in conjunction with effects like Manabarbs for a stax-lockdown deck, Firesong and Sunspeaker is a burn-lifegain deck, very spell-focused, Brion Stoutarm was a list based around sacrifice and recursion, with lifegain synergies to boot, etc.
After this you say that "BOROS HAS YET TO DO THAT", referring to non-combat commander support, again I look to Gisela, Firesong/Sunspeaker, and Brion.
Then you bring up that tier 1 lists always go off turn 3 and you can't be competitive without that, again, BS, Yisan, Teferi, and Sisay and tier 1 decks, of which two are stax-combo hybrids that often go the stax-y control route and Yisan is midrange-y, etc.
Then you go into the 5 things you want to do to get this deck where you want. I don't see why as Aurelia is a tier 3 cEDH list anyway, but who cares.
All commander decks need to be 100 cards exactly anyway to be a commander deck, this is not specific to cEDH.
No, many people build budgeted cEDH decks, but just like any competitive event for standard, modern, legacy, vintage, and pauper, playing a budgeted variant will lose you games. Also, many players to do accept the use of proxies, and in competitive EDH tournaments or side events and Grand Prix's, or now Magic Fests, you can be disqualified for using proxies.
That is not a rule of cEDH, while it isn't a bad suggestion, it is not necessary for the vast majority of faster combo decks, that only need to protect their combo, or for stax decks with hate that can stop threats before they are cast, or stop them from being cast, well before having a removal or counterspell up is necessary.
I would suggest the old Helm of Obedience / Rest in Peace combo for the deck or a Kiki-Jiki package to play with. Running Rest in Peace as graveyard hate is often useful enough to warrant inclusion in any cEDH white list not aiming on using the graveyard for itself, and this list shouldn't so recursion based.
Wrong, not that Boros has great effects, it does, but the arrogance in saying that nobody knows them is astounding to me xD.
After this you make it sound like there is a mob of cEDH players who say Boros is "forbidden". I have only heard that word said in cEDH as a reference to Forbidden Orchard xD.
Then you complain about infinite creature combos stopping you from having fun, and claim Azathoth from the Lovecraftian pantheon is the most powerful media character (must never have heard of SCP-3812), and ramble on about inane things.
Then you actually go crazy. Not about Boros, not about anything else mtg related, you literally claim you are "The only person willing to help on Earth." No joke, read it. Lunatic.
Starts quoting some BS after that, and immediately goes into talking about cuts for the list. Actually, this concerns me for BMHKain's mental health. This is some deeply disturbing stuff.
Then goes into quoting something about Tokyo, and apologizes for having some of the really weird stuff throughout.
Okay, wtf was that. You start by going on some factually incorrect assumptions about cEDH, then all Boros commanders, then all Boros combos, then on basic EDH rules like having 100 cards... then you go off the deep end, and ask about cutting cards.
1 month ago
Thanks for the advice. That combo also looks pretty good. Far outside of my scope, would need: Sneak Attack + Imperial Recruiter + Village Bell-Ringer . None in the deck right now. It's still CMC4 () Sneak Attack + CMC1 () Imperial Recruiter + CMC1 () Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + CMC1 () Village Bell-Ringer = CMC7 (), whereas Buried Alive + Reanimate is CMC4 (). Both 2 card combos.
Interesting one though. Save me Seething Song !
1 month ago
1 month ago
And yeah when I was making cuts. I dropped Zealous Conscripts because of the 5 cmc... Thats a bit heavy. Thats why I kept in the Village Bell-Ringer because he is 4 cmc and while thats still a bit much, its more manageable than 5 and they essentially combo the same way. with Goblin Bombardment , Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Adarkar Valkyrie .
Those are very good arguments for Mother of Runes . I know someone may have already asked you this but, so why do you go 4cmc Mother of Runes over 2 cmc Flickering Ward which allows you to protect the creature AND protect itself by flickering it (and also in general, is harder to remove than a creature)?
Village Bell-Ringer occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%