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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Creature — Human Horror
Skulk (This creature can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.)
Whenever Wharf Infiltrator deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card. If you do, discard a card.
Whenever you discard a creature card, you may pay . If you do, create a 3/2 colorless Eldrazi Horror creature token.
7 months ago
Hey SomeRandomDude! Always glad to connect with someone who appreciates this movie.
I love a good 60 card. It's been so long since I've built one! Retraced Image and Mitotic Manipulation are both excellent and on-theme. I wish I could use them, but they just don't make sense with commander being a singleton format. Wharf Infiltrator is a super fun looking card! I didn't know it existed TBH. I'll add it to the maybe list for sure; since it generates Eldrazi, it fits the vibe I'm going for.
LOL I often considered Smuggler's Copter, but it's just didn't seem worth the space. Perhaps I'll reconsider. It's very thematic.
Good luck with your 60 card build. If you upload it, link it here! I'd love to take a look.
7 months ago
Late to the party - The Thing is my all time favorite, and I've wanted to make a deck for a bit. I have no commander experience other than watching it, so I'm designing a casual 60 for it. However, I want to share things I've thought of.
For on theme (and obscure) ramp, I'm looking at Retraced Image and Mitotic Manipulation - both with art somewhat evocative of The Thing. I am mono-blue currently though, so they might be a stretch for a three color deck.
Otherwise, I'm a big fan of Forgotten Creation and Nemesis of Reason for their looks, as well as Wharf Infiltrator for the tentacles, being a Human and Horror, and popping out more baby things. Also, no Smuggler's Copter?
Overall I love it though and I'll definitely be using it for ideas for my kitchen table deck!
8 months ago
1 year ago
I'd start by identifying what you want the main goal of your deck to be. I see two main ideas here that could be built around.
The first is dealing unblocked damage by disincentivizing blocks with deathtouch. Darkblade Agent , Eternal of Harsh Truths , Graveblade Marauder , and maybe Blightsteel Colossus (with enough reanimation) fit this archetype. Because of the two "blade" cards, there is some overlap with the second archetype which I'll cover next (and if you keep them, cards like Notion Rain , Mission Briefing , Thought Erasure , and Discovery / Dispersal are likely to get more mileage than Divination or Secrets of the Golden City ), but there may be even better ways to profit from unblocked creatures. Curiosity enchantments like Curious Obsession , Sixth Sense , and Keen Sense are frequent accompaniments to the Invisible Stalker s and other bogles of the world, and Bident of Thassa is a strong option for those going wide. I like Quietus Spike as a sort of midway point between Basilisk Collar and Master of Cruelties in decks like these too. Other beaters to get in with could be Tomebound Lich , Oona's Blackguard , Dimir Cutpurse , Looter il-Kor , Shadowmage Infiltrator , Surrakar Spellblade , Wharf Infiltrator , or Virtus the Veiled if he's legal in whatever format this is for. More generic deathtouch synergy could include Hooded Blightfang , Viridian Longbow , Thornbite Staff , Psionic Gift enchantments, and any source of first strike. Finally, I like Cipher as a way to gain advantage from repeated attacks, so maybe a Hidden Strings or Paranoid Delusions could come in handy.
The second main idea is to stack the graveyard(s) with as many creatures as possible to extract value from Undergrowth and similar mechanics. Avatar of Woe , Lotleth Giant , Trepanation Blade , Teferi's Tutelage , and some of your Disentomb effects fit here. Major threats in these kinds of decks include Wight of Precinct Six , Jace's Phantasm , Consuming Aberration , Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker , Fleet Swallower , Nemesis of Reason , Bonehoard , Mortivore , and Nighthowler . If you want to focus on your own graveyard, green is a great color to dip into as I alluded to earlier. Ghoultree , Boneyard Wurm , Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord , Splinterfright , Nyx Weaver , Nemesis of Mortals , Spider Spawning , and Kessig Cagebreakers are just some of the tools you get access to. Golgari is also the king of Undergrowth, so Hatchery Spider , Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Molderhulk , Rhizome Lurcher / Undergrowth Scavenger , Kraul Harpooner , and Necrotic Wound are on the table. If milling your opponents is more your thing, some staples to consider are Thought Scour , Sphinx's Tutelage , Drown in the Loch , Traumatize , Fraying Sanity , and the crab duo. Jace's Erasure , Psychic Corrosion , and the Tutelage pair benefit the most from other draw synergy, and Visions of Beyond is an obvious inclusion if that's the route you take. Either way, I'd cut down to only the most efficient of your reanimate to hand cards and the like since you don't want to be stuck with a fist full of them and no creatures in the graveyard to target. Speaking of cuts, for maximum power, it's usually correct to play as close to the 60 card minimum as possible. Picking a single strategy to hone in on should make it easier to whittle down to the most important 60 in the deck.
If you have questions, let me know. Good luck with your build!
2 years ago
Some other on-flavor options to bring the curve down a bit are Wharf Infiltrator (also lets you ditch higher-costed cards you might not be able to use for value and recur with your Hell's Caretaker) and Plague Spitter. Woe Strider is a nice piece of recurrable value that helps you smooth your draws a bit.
Fleshwrither is a nice utility horror that lets you go search for pieces like Hell's Caretaker or Ravenous Chupacabra.
And while it may not be as budget, Phyrexian Revoker helps you answer some threats from across the board.
3 years ago
So with the new set coming out there’s more ninjas so they’re an obvious include- here’s my two cents on switches..
Take out Wharf Infiltrator for Ingenious Infiltrator . Easy upgrade, Wharf really doesn’t provide that much as a 2 mana 1/1, there’s plenty of decks that run 1/1 mana dorks etc that can become easy chump blockers since they’d rather block then take the damage from a ninjutsu hit. Plus the ninja has infiltrator in the name still so flavour win yay! Finally, the card draw is AMAZING. Go wide with creatures that much faster.
I would switch Thada Adel, Acquisitor for Fallen Shinobi . Again they do similar things, however I’d rather get a free cast from an opponent and get the ninja triggered abilities over her. A 3 mana 2/2 isn’t so great either, even though I understand islandwalk, if the opponents don’t run blue, it’s just essentially a wasted slot or a chump blocker - which isn’t true to the deck.
Notion Thief I would definitely substitute for Changeling Outcast . I think the text you have to pay attention to is that it says you draw the extra card in their DRAW STEPS. Outside of that, like main phases, you don’t get that draw - so it’s way too situational and really doesn’t shut much down at all... unfortunately another wasted slot. The Changeling however, is a 1 mana 1/1 unblockable that is also considered a ninja!! Woohoo ninja paradise!
Nightveil Sprite out, Pteramander in. A 1 drop is better than the 2 drop. Nightveil gives you surveil, but you’ll be ninja’ing out most of the time anyway so that’s just an extra mana to drop the creature on the field, you basically graveyard a card if you don’t want it (and when you attack with ninjas you’re blindly going in to the next card anyway), and then spending an extra mana to do it him back on the battlefield. So in that process you could’ve saved a card from hitting the grave and saved 2 mana if you had of used Pteramander. It’s in your sideboard, id definitely use it.
Etrata, the Silencer out Windfall in. You have it in sideboard, it’s amazing. Not only will you refill your hand most likely in multiplayer games, always live by the rule that your opponents current hands are better than the ones they will get. They have plans for those hands, they may have tutored combo pieces, you just got rid of that and filled your hand to throw more creatures out. DEFINITELY use this card. If you’re sceptical why Etrata, yes the first half of her text sounds amazing that you exile a creature when you do combat damage with her and if you do 3 they lose. But you shuffle her into your library after you deal combat damage. It is super inefficient unfortunately, and you just spent 4 mana on a exile a creature card when there’s way better card disruption out there, or you could have spent the 3 to cast Windfall and maybe drawn into a wincon or lots more creatures?
I’d also switch Crystal Ball for Naga Ninja. I understand how useful scrying can be in Yuriko, but I also believe this guy outplays the card by far. Instead of scrying 2 each time (would’ve cost 4 to do the first one), you could have paid 3 mana to ninjutsu naga boi out, and created a copy of him, two ninjas for 3 mana over scry 2 for 4?! Next turn you would have scry 4 for 5 mana in total, whilst hypothetically you could have dealt damage with 2 more ninjas and created 2 more copies. I think you get where I’m going with this... the value is so insane in comparison.
This is just my opinion and what I would recommend, more ninjas for less mana, go wide! By the way if you find board wipes are getting to be bad news, id look at switching out Evacuation and Just the Wind for more counters. Some of my favourites are Arcane Denial for an extra card (even if the opponent gets 2), Muddle the Mixture - Transmute is just extra gravy, and Spell Pierce the classic. There is better ones, but these are just budget ideas I thought may assist. Also I mentioned evacuation, because even though it is a nice card, I feel better having more protection for my board over returning all creatures In response to my creatures dying - but that’s just my preference!
Anyway I hope you enjoy reading my thoughts on it, lemme know what you think!
3 years ago
Hey, nice looking deck! I noticed you helped me out a bit with my take on Yuriko (Yuriko WiP) and I wanted to leave some feedback on your list in return.
For starters, I would highly recommend Gurmag Swiftwing . Having evasive creatures with haste is a fantastic way to get the ball rolling again after a board wipe, and the only card I could find that does it better is Nether Traitor which currently runs for about 15 bucks. This one's only 20 cents! Wharf Infiltrator is also pretty nice (although not hasty), and combos very nicely with your plan revolving around Library of Leng .
I'm not too sold on Mana Leak in EDH in general, especially in a list that wants to be throwing out a bunch of creatures early and not really wanting to pass turn 2 without some type of creature out. As a replacement, I would suggest adding in a few more 3-drops, as that slot is looking pretty light for how many awesome cards you can put in there. From evasive creatures such as Neurok Invisimancer or Shadowmage Infiltrator to some value generators like Thada Adel, Acquisitor and even a way to directly tutor out your Arcane Adaptation through Perplex , there's a lot of options that can go in the 3 slot to make sure your curve never lets up. One of my personal favorites that I'm trying to find a spot to fit into my own list is Quietus Spike , which can quickly close out a game with all of your evasive creatures. Dimir Keyrune I feel also deserves a spot as a mana rock that you use in the early game that transitions into a near-guaranteed proc for Yuriko whenever she dies in the late game.
Another recommendation I have that also helps to keep the cost down is throwing in Liliana Vess over Diabolic Tutor . This is not only cheaper, but also has a stronger proc off of Yuriko as well as giving a continuous source of tutor-to-the-top effects to hopefully keep slapping your opponent for 8-10 damage a turn. Her +1 is also pretty nice if you're trying to hate out a specific player, and her ultimate is game-winning if the match goes on long enough.
Another fun card that I'm in the process of testing out is Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker I'm not sure how valuable it is to bring back all your little guys if they get removed, but it could help with blocking if you needed to chump out some larger threats.
For landbase, I think that a Rogue's Passage could help in times where there's no safe time to swing in with some of your ninjas, and still functions just fine as a land when you don't want to pay 4 mana for something like that. Halimar Depths has good synergy with all of the top manipulation in this style of deck, and is definitely on the cheaper side of nonbasic lands. This is similarly true for Temple of Deceit and Path of Ancestry , but those are a little bit pricier. Lastly, Faerie Conclave can provide an evasive creature for your ninjas in a pinch, and you don't lose much for including it either.
Hope you find success in your matches!