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Creature — Demon
At the beginning of each combat, any opponent may sacrifice a creature. If a player does, tap Desecration Demon and put a +1/+1 counter on it.
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Desecration Demon Discussion
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Ghost Quarter is around 1 or 2 dollars. Considering you have some cards around 4-5 dollars in your list, I assumed that would be budget friendly. I suppose if you meant a total budget of x amount of dollars regardless of what individual cards cost, then i suppose it can all add up. Also, I forgot about Night's Whisper for card draw and Vampire Nighthawk and Desecration Demon. Normally these won't see much modern play, but as budget options, they are more than good enough.
I also don't like cards like Torment of Hailfire, Remorseless Punishment, or Sword-Point Diplomacy. They cost too much mana for modern, considering they give your opponent the choice of what to discard or sacrifice etc. They're true home is in a good mono-black commander/edh deck.
I don't like Temporal Extortion either for mana cost reason. Unless you're next turn you take with it wins you the game, it might not necessarily do much for all that mana. (Also, feels bad to get it countered by Mana Leak, Remand, or Cryptic Command which are many modern control decks.
I also don't know how I forgot about Hero's Downfall, I'd run two of those regardless of whether they end up in the sideboard or the main. As for big finishers, in addition to everything I've mentioned up to this point, you could run Tombstalker as a one-off.
2 weeks ago
No problem AwesomeDoofus! Glad my suggestions could be of some help!
It's true that more efficient CMCs will often lead to higher prices i.e. Liliana's Caress vs Raider's Wake. Though, if your LGS (local game store) is selling Liliana's Caress for 8$, that is truly egregious. You can find them here for 2-3$ a card here TCG Player and I suggest buying other cards on that website since they have very competitive pricing.
My opinion of Consume the Meek is not very high considering that you can wipe the whole board for the same mana cost in cards like Crux of Fate. Pestilence Demon is also pretty meh to me because it is terribly expensive unless you are running some kind of reanimation deck with cards like Entomb and Animate Dead OR ramp spells like Dark Ritual, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, and Cabal Ritual. If Tempt with Immortality is already a very medium card in your deck, then I would shy away from adding other medium cards to the deck like Crypt Incursion just to make the other medium cards better. It's simply better to not have the initial medium card in the deck to begin with. The other cards I'm not so big on as well, especially when you consider that you wanted to add more discard to the deck. These other cards would make that hard to do.
Unfortunately the best discard effects are pretty expensive because they see play across multiple formats. These include-
-to name a few
The other problem with discard spells is that they lose their potency late into the game because people will simply be drawing and playing their only card and have nothing to discard. This is why cards like The Rack and Black Vise are so good. These cards create tension within your opponent and gives value to your discard spells late into the game. Your opponent will not want to play anything so that they can keep cards in hand to not take damage from the artifacts, this means your discard spells will actually be worthwhile late into the game creating a lose-lose situation for the opponent because they will take damage from the artifacts if they play what they draw, but if they don't play what they draw you may just make them discard it anyway and how can they win if they are not playing the cards they draw? A deck that looks to enable this strategy on a budget for 1vs1 (so no Liliana of the Veil or Thoughtseize) might look like this-
4x Dark Ritual (this card enables you to do very powerful things early in the game such as play Hymn, and Inquisition on turn 1)
1x Waste Not
4x The Rack
4x Black Vise
Two things to notice here, 1 there are no creatures. This means cards like Innocent Blood, Pox, and Smallpox do not affect us in that way, only our opponent. Our main win condition here are the Rack and Vise, so no need for creatures. The Mishra's Factorys are just a plan B. This also makes a lot of our opponents cards, like removal spells, very bad against us limiting the amount of impactful cards they can play against us. The second, is you'll notice there are a lot of 4ofs. Rather than having 1 of this and 2 of that, having multiple copies of 1 card increases the percentage that we actually draw it or have it in our opening hand. What this means is that our deck is much more efficient because the chances and percentages of us drawing the cards we need are as high as they can be. This is an important aspect of deck building to keep in mind.
Now, that last deck was a true discard deck. If you want to play creatures though and want to be swinging for damage in Mono then I would suggest a Devotion deck which exploits the power of cards like Gray Merchant of Asphodel by trying to get as many symbols on the battlefield as possible. A Devotion deck with budget in mind (so no Phyrexian Obliterator) for 1vs1 might look like this-
4x Doom Blade
4x Brain Maggot
Now these two decks I put here are just simple examples of different directions to go, obviously if you do a mix of both of them, then you will inevitably dilute the strategy of one another but that's certainly okay if that's what you want to do. It's kind of where I would put the deck as it stands now. You have some discard, you have some creatures, some of it synergizes with the rest, but as a whole it is not as focused as the decks above. All of this is to answer your last paragraph when you ask, "What is worth keeping?" Well, that's a tough question because we first have to ask, "What is it we are trying to do?" Once you answer this, you can then eliminate the cards that don't help in those areas and add more copies of the ones that do. Now, I don't want to push you one way or the other, I simply want to provide the options so that you know what possibilities are out there.
I hope this was not terribly overwhelming, and you are right, this is what I enjoy doing on this site so its no trouble to me! So if you have more questions please feel free to ask!
3 weeks ago
Z4k16 avacyn and Hall of the Bandit Lord are in the non budget version but I cut them to make it more budget, but I would like to get them at some point. I feel like playing Maralen would cause me to get even more hate because they would probably think I am trying to combo off. Knollspine Dragon is not that good because if I play it with Kaalia then I would not have dealt damage yet. Desecration Demon, Anya and Razaketh just don't seem as good as the creatures that I am currently running. Effects like Winds of Change would probably be useful late game when my hand is bad and I am already running an Armageddon
3 weeks ago
From playtesting this deck three or four times I would try to get some hand draw/ cycle maybe Winds of Change? I ended up with Kaalia of the Vast effect going off too often and having a hand of land. The deck works well although I might consider running Maralen of the Mornsong as it lets you get your angels to your hand whilst being a nuisance. Also if you haven't seen it before Hall of the Bandit Lord. Also Avacyn, Angel of Hope, and Desecration Demon, Anya, Merciless Angel, Knollspine Dragon, along with the new Razaketh, the Foulblooded. Maybe run an Armageddon for once Kaalia of the Vast is down?
1 month ago
The biggest threats to this deck are removal, or wincons based on enchantments or artifacts. Ratchet bomb is included in the SB for that, but it's still a big weakness. I'm planning to change the sideboard so that there are more discard effects as a way to remove them before they're played!
1 month ago
Underworld Connections (one of my favorites) , Desecration Demon and Lifebane Zombie all killer cards! Whip of Erebos stayed on my main once I played it a couple times. Love a devotion deck. I've won so many times with gary! Hit me hard!
1 month ago
Yah, Kokusho, the Evening Star is pricey and it sucks that it has to die for it's ability to take effect. You do realize that you get to draw a card each turn with Bloodgift Demon right? Also consider Warden of Evos Isle, Mulldrifter and Desecration Demon.