At the beginning of each combat, any opponent may sacrifice a creature. If a player does, tap Desecration Demon and put a +1/+1 counter on it.
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I have to say I disagree with your assessment of the Standard meta a bit BlastercoolWeird.
Mono-black and Mono-Black devotion both played a significant role in the development of standard. Elspeth, Sun's Champion
gave Esper another win condition, Hero's Downfall
was played everywhere it could be. I imagine with the new format there will be a lot of Theros cards that get picked up, and a lot of cards that get left behind. Soldier of the Pantheon
could probably start seeing a decent amount of play, for example. Mindreaver
is a 2/1 for 2 with some upside...what's bad about that? Blue is more aggressive right now, if you get to counter something with his ability late game...that's just gravy.
Usually what you described is how standard works anyway, the relevant cards from the old block dominate until they rotate out...Abrupt Decay , Sphinx's Revelation , and Supreme Verdict are just examples of the useful tools that people wanted to make the most of their archetypes. I can't deny most of the removal in Theros didn't compare, but for limited play it was a necessity. Hard to play devotion in Limited if you can't get anything to stick. Look back to last year at this time...everyone was tired of Thragtusk and Restoration Angel , Liliana of the Veil , Snapcaster Mage and Olivia Voldaren at the expense of what RTR had to offer. Where was Desecration Demon then?
There were a lot of complaints about Theros's power level as a block. Born of the Gods and Journey to Nyx weren't particularly well received, so again, you're not voicing an unpopular opinion. I just think it will be interesting to see what people actually put together and win with.
I do not believe you, smash10101, I have never seen that card played, and I've never seen it evaluated by anyone as anything less than trash. Just because you open one of mythic rares that care about devotion to blue, I don't see how having one-two more devotion is worth running what is basically a harder-to-cast Bronze Sable
, which a card that is mediocre at best.
Bsaf yeah except that theros had way /more/ bad cards than RTR or Inninstrad
You can even see it in the top-end decks of the format. Mono-black and Mono-blue devotion ultimately try to generate devotion for their Theros-native finishers but both of those deck HINGE on the cards from RTR block, the blue-x hybrids, Cloudfin Raptor , Pack Rat , Underworld Connections , Desecration Demon . UW and esper control hinges on Supreme Verdict . Detention Sphere , Sphinx's Revelation
The only decklist in the previous standard with a majority of theros cards is Jund Monsters, a decklist that is basically "let's jam all the really good green and red mythic creatures/planeswalkers, 4 courser, 4 caryatid and then all the good jund removal and disruption (with the exception of Thoughtseize mostly from RTR block, huh, fancy that) into a deck"
Why does this matter? Well it indicates to me that something might maybe be wrong with a block's power level when the archetypes it sets up are either ignored (Heroic didn't get anywhere close to a top 8, Tribute, far as I can tell, didn't get a single worthwhile card into standard outside of Fanatic of Xenagos ; the least-tribute-y tribute card) or have to rely largely on the materials provided by superior sets.
I just noticed another thing too. You're running 22 lands and without Nykthos. Sometimes I feel like my 23 lands with 3 Nykthos isn't enough, even with all my mana dorks. Has the 22 been working for you? Seems like it might be hard to get out the Colossus of Akros on curve with only 22. And by on curve I mean by turn 6 lol cause that's usually when I have him out and Monstrous. Now, I have won games (yes that's plural) with only 2 lands and roughly 4 mana dorks, shockingly, so I know it's definitely possible. Anyway if 22 is working, then disregard this comment, but I might bump it up to 24 if you can find the space. I'm thinking Plummet to the sideboard for the 2 more lands. You have Arbor Colossus and the Archetype to handle Fliers in the mainboard. At one point, I had 4 Arbors and 3 Archetypes mainboard because I saw so many Stormbreath Dragon , Desecration Demon , Judge's Familiar , Cloudfin Raptor , etc, etc. Since then, the amount of mono blue aggro I run into has gone down a little bit (I think mainly because there's a chick at FNM that runs it every week and stomps everybody so the rest of them have gone to something else, usually mono black control). Whew, sorry I didn't mean to turn this into a Thesaurus lol.
Counters is gimmicky and co-card dependent. I think anybody making a deck out of the new cards is going to end up with a slow gimmicky deck that will probably be fun as hell to play outside of a competitive environment. Corpsejack Menace is a bad card for a reason...
I ran counters post last rotation and the only way it works as a decent deck is if your creatures have counter mechanics built into them and are still effective creatures. Scavenging Ooze Lotleth Troll Desecration Demon Kalonian Hydra . The whole outlast mechanic requires u to tap in order to grow :/
I think Mono Black & Selesnya are going to be top decks, possible Mono White or Mono Blue... B/W aggro or Junk aggro could be a thing if they reprint some of the other fetches...Mono Green looks super strong for the Midrange game..
I think that mono black isn't really strong enough in the soon to be new meta to be midrange or complete control. If u can mix the early game control with early game beat sticks, u should be able to get lethal damage thru quick enough. If u try to extend it to the mid-range game or late game control you're more efficiently outclassed by the cards in that range. U need a Desecration Demon type of utility that we didn't get. Otherwise Unfair would be a better splash. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver just got that much better.
Oh yea.... Soldier of the Pantheon would be sick as well...
i am going to miss Abrupt Decay and Golgari Charm as well as the lifegain from Scavenging Ooze in my Bg deck. Reclamation Sage and Sultai Charm are two options i'm looking at at least for non-creature removal. Unravel the Aether is alsto sticking around to deal with gods.
i'm honestly more worried about all the creatures leaving black. namely Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Pack Rat , Desecration Demon and Pack Rat .
I'm still confused a little. So, if an ability of Dictate of Erebos goes to the stack during the combat damage step,When we execute cards and abilities from stack?
now it's combat damage step- opponent blocked my 1xMaster of the Feast by Desecration Demon , so my creature dies. - now ability of Dictate of Erebos goes to the stack- opponent blocked my 1xMaster of the Feast by Dawnbringer Charioteers (6/8) with 4 counters, so my creature dies - now ability of Dictate of Erebos goes to the stack
my question is:when the cards/abilities from stack are executed? at the end of the combat damage step, or during combat damage step each time my creature dies?
backonthehorse1 Im not big on dropping Corpsejack Menace because he makes for big plays on small costs, especially using Corpsejack Menace +Bioshift +Protean Hydra . bio would trigger both protean and corpsejack's abilities; whatever i move the counters to would double, then protean would get back twice doubled what was removed. In the next comment were some cards that could provide the prevention from removal though and i think ill look into it. Ill look into adding a thrun, but i also like Troll Ascetic . thanks for the feedback though.
LtMiller117 I think ill add in Golgari Charm to replace Solidarity of Heroes . Ive made some mean plays with it but i end up holding onto it a lot and i think the charm would be much more versatile. I think Ranger's Guile could also be useful, especially to use with Protean Hydra because if enough damage was done to remove its counters i could drop this and keep it immune to damage+hexproof till end of turn.
|Power / Toughness||6/6|
|Avg. draft pick||3.08|
|Avg. cube pick||7.15|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Return to Ravnica||Rare|