Quest for the Nihil Stone

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may put a quest counter on Quest for the Nihil Stone.

At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if that player has no cards in hand and Quest for the Nihil Stone has two or more quest counters on it, you may have that player lose 5 life.

Combos

• Painful Quandary + Quest for the Nihil Stone

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

TheForsakenOne on Undead Army

1 month ago

Dreadmalkin and Leech Gauntlet are both pretty mediocre. I'd recommend replacing them with more ramp (you have a lot of pricier cards here, including your commander. More 2-cost mana rocks would go a long way). I also don't think you have enough enchantments for Grim Guardian to be putting in the work.

Other suggestions would be Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal  ^Flip (discard payoff), Hostile Investigator (Discard payoff and targeted discard), Sangromancer (Some lifegain) or Quest for the Nihil Stone (Cheap discard payoff). I do think you should be prioritizing adding more ramp first so you can get you specters out and start swinging faster.

RiotRunner789 on Any discard payoffs on mono …

3 months ago

I have my own discard deck and most of my wincons revolve around Wheel of Torture effects. Some cards in the same line are Gibbering Descent and Quest for the Nihil Stone.

I also use cards like Arena of the Ancients, Ensnaring Bridge, Noetic Scales, and Null Brooch to keep myself alive. Creature wise I've won with Guiltfeeder multiple times (going under the bridge) and Necrogoyf has helped out more than once take some life totals down.

YesterdaysGhost on Cash-Strapped Black Racks

5 months ago

Thanks for popping by, Quackisaurus! Always great to meet another 8Rack player!

Quest for the Nihil Stone is a great card and one I certainly played in early iterations of my builds years ago. The issue I found was that it took a bit of support to get going and that I was missing additional discards to keep the opponent's hand low. Certainly reminds me I should get this going in my Rack/Discard EDH; Remnants of the Past

doktoras on Mono Black Pox Control

1 year ago

DreadKhan Thanks for your advice. I will consider very seriously to test first and then put them in the 75 if they perform well, the following 3 cards that you suggested me: Leechridden Swamp Necrogen Mists and Quest for the Nihil Stone.

DreadKhan on Mono Black Pox Control

1 year ago

I'm not sure if you have enough removal here to make them work, but I absolutely loved Phyrexian Totem in my Pox deck, it's an incredibly fast clock if people have an empty board. If you used Shrieking Affliction over The Rack you might try out Leechridden Swamp, these seem too small to matter, but in longer/slower games they are a nice surprise. Leechridden Swamp also likes Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage, which combines a Rack effect with the option of a discard effect, he's also a very good Rack, even at 3 mana.

I don't know what else you should run in their place, but is Fatal Push really a good fit in here? I usually see it run in decks that use Fetchlands. I think I'd just run x4 Sudden Edict and try to keep the board clear, is the targeting that key? There is also Liliana's Triumph and Geth's Verdict that each relevant have upsides and can hit big/durable stuff.

If you don't mind raising your budget a bit (and stay on The Rack) Urza's Saga can find a Rack for you, that's a lot better than paying 4 mana for a Wasteland I'd argue, and that ignores the supply of constructs you can get if you've got nothing better going on.

Have you ever tried out Necrogen Mists? It doesn't work well with stuff like Quest for the Nihil Stone, but it's great with The Rack, once you get one out the opponent no longer can sit on their cards, they only go down without serious card draw.

Really like what you've built, it's always nice to see different takes on the archetypes of Discard and Pox!

dnthymamai on Discard Raven

1 year ago

Nice discard deck! May I also suggest some ideas for the sideboard:

Quest for the Nihil Stone if you find that your opponent's hand empties fast (e.g. they are aggro).

Cabal Therapist for game 2, when you already have information on your opponent's deck.

Unearth for some recursion for your key creature!

wallisface on 12-Rack Ribeye

2 years ago

Cards i’m not a fan of here

• Nezumi Shortfang  ^Flip feels too slow, and justifies all your opponents killspells, which is a problem.

• Quest for the Nihil Stone feels like it will be a terrible draw mid-late game, and has a super-small window of usefulness.

Outside of that, i’m worried you don’t have enough ways to deal with creatures on-board. I think there’s too high-odds the opponent can just beat you down with creatures faster than you can rack-them. Some Fatal Push could help you a lot here.

xSpicyMeat on How Not To MTG

2 years ago

BishopAtavist, thank you for the comment! I have decided to forego Quest for the Nihil Stone in favour of Shrieking Affliction as a more consistent trigger. I have added Strionic Resonator into the sideboard.