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Surgical Extraction Discussion
1 day ago
orzhov721 that's a pretty cool interaction, however I don't know what to side out. Since the deck's mono black it is probably not necessary to have 4 in the sideboard. I have Relic of Progenitus mostly to get Surgical Extraction or Crypt Incursion more than GY hate.
1 week ago
psionictemplar good idea, thanks for the feedback! Do you have any recommendations on what specifically to cut? I am not experienced when it comes to playing with the new evoke powerhouses (like Fury and Solitude , which is why I ask. Magmatic Insight , Manamorphose , Surgical Extraction , Lightning Bolt , Path to Exile are all cards we could definitely potentially cut for them.
2 weeks ago
3 Damping Sphere big mana + storm hate
3 Anticognition hits the Tron targets and is more flexible than Ceremonious Rejection
2 Outland Liberator Flip artifact/enchant hate
3 Ashiok, Dream Render can't be paid away like Leonin Arbiter and is harder to interact with. Replaces both RIP and arbiter with costing just 1 more mana.
2 Surgical Extraction good all around hate for problem cards
2 Pithing Needle
Yeah I am a bit land light but I have a fairly low curve and plenty of fetches to feed the Tireless Tracker I may see about upping my land count but my esper deck has a 2.97 average cmc and only one more land without problems so I don't think it's going to be a big deal.
2 weeks ago
Symph0nyS0ldier, I'm glad I didn't come across as a jackass. I wasn't sure since it's hard to convey tone on the internet lol.
I absolutely agree that Teferi, Hero of Dominaria makes it hard to lose if you ult him. As someone who played against a Jeskai Control deck featuring Teferi every week throughout Dominaria standard and even into GRN standard, it is hard to win if his ultimate goes off. I would personally run 3 but it's not necessarily vital that you do.
So knowing that your intent with Ceremonious Rejection was to hose tron, there are a couple of other options that you could go with to disrupt what they want to do. For example, land hate. If you can destroy their Urza lands then that really hurts them. Then if you pair that land hate with Surgical Extraction you can permanently take away one of them, which means they can never get 7 mana from three lands. And yes, extraction is a black card but it's a phyrexian black so you don't have to have a black mana source you can just use your life. Or something like Leonin Arbiter could also be pretty useful as it prevents them from using their Expedition Map to find the remaining Urza lands. Or even something like Pithing Needle, which was reprinted in MID, could be very helpful too.
I wouldn't worry too much about Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. The mana value of 15 means that there are a very limited number of decks that can effectively run it. The only deck that's going to want to run it is tron, eldrazi, or a very good ramp deck, but even that isn't likely as the only deck that does consistently run Emrakul is tron and eldrazi. Other than those decks, it'll take minimum of 15 turns to get Emrakul out and that's if they don't miss any land drops. And with tron and eldrazi, it's easy enough to screw with their mana to where they can't get her out quicker than they should if you have land hate. Hell, I run Damping Sphere in my sideboard for my Sultai Dredge deck to help counter tron which prevents them from getting more than one mana from each of their lands at once.
Tireless Tracker is a fantastic card, if you have a lot of lands. And it can be a very dangerous threat too. But you are running only 22 lands. Most control decks run around 27 and most midrange decks run around 23-24. But that's not the end of the world. However, I feel like it would be a good idea to run at least one more copy of it, if not two more copies to maximize your chances of drawing it. But again, entirely up to you.
If you like Qasali Pridemage because he's a creature that also doubles as artifact/enchantment removal, then Outland Liberator Flip might be worth looking into. It's got the same activated ability, but it's a new werewolf (daybound/nightbound) where his flip side is a 3/3 with "When this creature attacks, destroy target artifact or enchantment defending player controls" AND the activated ability too.
You've got some good things going here. I hope you find the lineup that works best for you!
2 weeks ago
Once you're comfortable with the deck, we should start looking into constructing a sideboard.
Artifact hate is a little more tricky without red, I'll get back to you on that.
Card that does a little bit in a lot of matchups: Pithing Needle
Anti-Hatebears: Torpor Orb
And there are plenty of other options. Artifacts are particularly useful if you need a card for certain matchups that your color (monoblack) isn't good at handling on its own.
1 month ago
It seems like you might like the various versions of UB Mill running around since the printing of Tasha's Hideous Laughter: https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=32365&d=448906&f=MO
I'm not sure what you're looking for with Dauthi Voidwalker - a mill deck that wins with others' cards? The problem with Voidwalker + Mill is that you're splitting win conditions. You'll be milling only for value and still trying to win via damage since your opponent likely isn't also playing mill cards that you can steal. It's probably better to use Voidwalker by assuming your opponent will put their own cards into their GY by playing them or you killing them. It's also just a good hatebear for GY-based decks. I could see it having a place in the sideboard of mill if you're worried about empowering a GY-based deck with your mill cards.
1 month ago
Morning, all :)
I've been playing around with Dimir mill in the Modern format, buoyed in part by the excellent Drown in the Loch. At the moment I'm looking at two approaches; the first is a sort of 'suicide mill' where the focus is less on interaction and more on running them out at all costs. At the moment I just can't seem to get it fast enough, so it's the weaker option.
The second, and the one I'm asking for help with, is a more meta-mill sort of deck, leaning on tempo and control while gradually milling. This deck will have a lot more interaction, including a number of creatures and would be as likely to win through damage as forcing the last draw.
For this deck concept I can't get it out of my head that Dauthi Voidwalker doesn't present a load of interesting opportunities, with cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable and Maddening Cacophony dumping tons of cards into what would be the graveyard. The Voidwalker is actually massively problematic in its synergy (or lack thereof) with many traditional mill cards as it keeps those cards from going into the graveyard and therefor often leaving options like Jace's Phantasm and Visions of Beyond depowered. Still, I can't help but think it has some potential, and there are plenty of match-ups where exiling cards is preferred to sending them into the graveyard.
Has anyone tried to used the Voidwalker in this way? Is it a fool's errand to even try in a competitive deck? Are there any good examples of a more controller-y Dimir mill deck that anyone would like to offer? I'd really like to try to make this competitive and most of my past experience with milling is mono-red land destruction that denies land draws via Grindclock or Codex Shredder + Lantern of Insight.
I did play an earlier version of this deck once in a local tournament and have one of my favorite 'Magic moments' ever - watching my opponent sac a fetch land on the opening play and in response popping an Archive Trap and then a Surgical Extraction, absolutely wrecking his combo deck and watching him scoop before I had even gotten a chance to play my turn. Ever since then I've wanted to make a serious go at this.
Thanks in advance.
1 month ago
Thanks depthcharge2, I appreciate it. Glad to hear you were able to budgetize this in a way that works for you. Misty Rainforest can be approximated easily enough; Barkchannel Pathway Flip, Hinterland Harbor or Botanical Sanctum should all be fine, or else Thornwood Falls if you’re looking for the cheapest option available.