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Surgical Extraction Discussion
1 week ago
1 week ago
your deck appears to have no way to interact with the opponents board state. Without anyway to prevent your opponent doing what they want, you auto-lose to any combo deck, as well as Dredge, Crabvine, and anything aggro. I’d suggest some Drown in the Loch as well as Surgical Extraction . The latter card in particular is a Mill-staple to help the deck buy time and lock-out combo/tron etc.
Zareth San, the Trickster feels too slow to be useful. Mill wants to be winning the game on turn 4 or 5, not dropping a 4/4 beater. It does get you some decent value, but also in a way that doesn’t help (Mill doesn’t want a boardstate, they want their opponent to have an empty deck).
This deck feels quite slow compared to conventional mill decks. Which is fine, but means you need to be getting some additional value/resilience from the cards your using to make it worthwhile. I’m not convinced the rogues are doing enough to get you there.
You mention in your description that you were considering the crabs - and while they are far less unique, they are popular for good reason. An example of how that deck could look is here. (I’ve seen other people run more mill spells, like glimpse, in place of fewer control elements).
The big takeaway I guess is that Mill performs best as a control deck. Trying to outright race your opponent just means you’re playing worse burn. The goal should be to disrupt your opponents ability to win early, then mill them out while they’re struggling to find a wincon. I think this could work in a Rogue-shell, but you need waaay more ways to stop your opponents winning
2 weeks ago
Looks good overall. Maybe look into Fatal Push or Tragic Slip as creature removal over Hero's Downfall . They can both be triggered pretty easily by way of Rotting Rats or if you added some fetchlands to pull swamps. Also, Surgical Extraction might be a better overall pick than Extirpate , but your mileage may vary.
2 weeks ago
Kiran_M, Missed the Dismember already there, 3 should be good for most things. The Apostle's Blessing in for Snakeskin Veil sounds great, in particular if you're worried about your mana base. Personally I've never liked stalker in the side, but that is going to be up to your own preference and playtesting. I'd also look at Surgical Extraction and Veil of Summer for the sideboard. Pricy, but they may be future options, veil in particular.
4 weeks ago
Yeah the discard can be good, especially if you aren’t running it main deck.
With the new set I expect Prowess to become even more popular so having some extra 1 mana removal like Fatal Push and Bloodchief's Thirst for Monastery Swiftspear / Soul-Scar Mage / Clever Lumimancer .
And Plague Engineer can be useful as well.
1 month ago
It can often be bad manners to put silver bullet cards in the mainboard. Usually, you'd put such cards in the side and swap them in for games 2 and 3. I know a lot of casual playgroups don't play best 2 out of 3 though, so if this player is using that deck a lot and consistently winning off of a single card, they can't really be surprised if you include some way to answer it in the 60. That said, Duress and Languish effects are the kinds of answers that are extremely common in black anyway. I personally wouldn't bat an eye at seeing them here. Underworld Dreams and Fate Unraveler , definitely not so much.
What is the card in question, by the way? That will obviously affect what's an appropriate response. When I played modern elves, it was pretty rare to bother with drawing the deck when you could just dump it with Collected Company and Genesis Wave . But, from playing other green decks over the years, cards like Lifecrafter's Bestiary , The Great Henge , Vanquisher's Banner , Beast Whisperer , Soul of the Harvest , Primordial Sage , Zendikar Resurgent , Glimpse of Nature , and Regal Force are what come to mind. For the creatures, they would be easy enough to deal with given enough Murder s. For the artifacts, things are rough. Black really hates destroying artifacts, so the very weak Phyrexian Tribute was the best option I could find. However, there is always the nuclear option of running Extirpate or Surgical Extraction with discard to essentially lock a single card out of the game. These are very much sideboard cards though, so running them main has a good chance of drawing a negative reaction.
1 month ago
1 month ago
It's a great card if you already have your lantern lock in. I personally really like Surgical Extraction more to thin out problematic cards from their decks.. But SS is a good budget replacement.