Seton's Desire

Enchantment — Aura

Enchant creature

Enchanted creature gets +2/+2.

Threshold — As long as seven or more cards are in your graveyard, all creatures able to block enchanted creature do so.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (4)

Skjoldschoennemann on Old Men from the Forests

5 years ago

Hi McToters, Thanks very much for your suggestions.

Though Natural Affinity is a really cool card, i can't really see how it synergises with the rest of the deck. It also requires me to have more lands than my opponent, which only happens if I get a Harvest Season or genesis wave.

Regarding Lure and Seton's Desire (though I almost want to put Seton's Desire in because of flavor), I think that Overwhelming Stampede and Triumph of the Hordes is just better, and they require less creatures to win the game.

I can see the point in running X-spells, but besides Green Sun's Zenith which is a little expensive, i couldn't find any that I think would be worth playing.

Craterhoof Behemoth is one of the greatest finishers in all of commander, but I really want to keep this deck somewhat affordable.(I honestly thought that it was in the maybeboard).

And again, thank you for taking the time to write a comment :)

McToters on Old Men from the Forests

5 years ago

Awesome deck! I've had Seton by my Tiny Leader for the longest time and only recently Ive been thinking about making it full EDH deck. You're running a good amount of the cards I alreay have. My wincons are Beastmaster Ascension or Natural Affinity. Natural Affinity is usually the "comes out of nowhere" card and catches many folks off guard. Lure or Seton's Desire (major flavor too!) are two other options for me to win if I have enough Druids out and swing with everything.

I originally tried using the insane amount of mana to put out 'x' spells like some of the hydras or Orochi Hatchery to generate boardstate.

I could have missed it but Craterhoof Behemoth is another great choice for a wincon.

Again, nice build! And I'll keep your list in mind for when I go full EDH with this guy.

JuQ on Rhonas, MonoG Boxing Club

6 years ago

Damm, I can't resist a good primer!

I'm a big fan of Deathtouch and I love to capitalize on it.
Deathtouch is amazing with Trample and with First Strike, but Rhonas is already Indestructible, so there is no need for First Strike unless you want to make Deathtouch a deck wide theme.
Give trample to a deathtoucher and it will only need to deal 1 damage to each blocker and trample the rest to the opponent, you can easily kill by commander damage. You don't need flashy finishers when your commander is cheap, big, unstoppable and unkillable.
Rancor is definitely a must, Vow of Wildness is efficient, Fists of Ironwood it's nice because the saprolings are great to protect Rhonas agains sacrifices, Berserk a bit expensive but absolutely OP for Rhonas, Ring of Kalonia, O-Naginata low costs and amazing, Loxodon Warhammer all time classic.

Ranged damage and provoking blockers: Nature's Way, Enlarge, Revenge of the Hunted, Tower Above, Nemesis Mask, maybe Seton's Desire. I'm not naming Fight effects because I guess you know them all already.

Pariah's Shield on rhonas and you will never be attacked again.

A couple resilient creatures more with power 4 Thornling, Manor Gargoyle. Maybe I would even consider Bonesplitter as a cheap way to activate Rhonas.

Rhonas biggest problem may be targeted spells that will usually exile him, bounce him or control him. Blossoming Defense, Ranger's Guile and Vines of Vastwood best thing for only one green mana, Hapatra's Mark is not as good but if you want a fourth one, it exists. Also Homeward Path is always good if you are not the one stealing creatures or animating them from graveyards. Brooding Saurian same effect just in case your meta is full of blue and black decks.

I'd say the amount of card draw you have is OK, but in my deck I would make some changes (personal preferences):
Regal Force out because it has a high cost and it is a "win more" card, If you are losing it won't help you much. You are not going to cheat it onto the battlefield so you most likely won't be able to do anything else in the turn and you'll have to discard many of them. You're not getting any extra juice from it either, no flickering in your deck.
Soul of the Harvest I actually like a lot this card, I put it in many decks, but it never stays long, it always goes back to the album.
Four cards you're considering are better options Elemental Bond, Garruk's Packleader (Lower cost and can trigger from tokens). Hunter's Insight is great, yes. Drumhunter perfectly on curve with Rhonas. I'd add to the list Life's Legacy: I know you don't like to sacrifice your creatures, but getting four or five ccards out of a creature for just two mana is a really good deal. Mouth / Feed I'm liking this card a lot, it gives you a 3/3 body in the early game and a slightly worse Shamanic Revelation from the graveyard. Also Garruk, Primal Hunter fits perfectly here.
Don't forget to include a Reliquary Tower and maybe even Thought Vessel if you feel you're having problems to hold you hand.

I wouldn't bother with the one drop mana dorks, you need a lot of them to be sure you get one in your opening hand, but they are kinda useless after that. It is not so important to have a second turn Rhonas, if they have a Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares or Reality Shift they will be able to use it anyway.
I would however swap Cultivate, Kodama's Reach and Arbor Elf for Sakura-Tribe Elder, Nature's Lore, Rampant Growth and Emerald Medallion. Arbor elf is one of those one drop mana dorks, Sakura-tribe elder in the late game will be able to block and fulfill his duty of bringing a land. Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are great but they have the same mana as Rhonas, so you will have to delay Rhonas or cast them in the fourth turn instead of a power 4 creature.
Using CMC2 mana ramps will allow you to play Rhonas on the third turn and have a mana open for reactions (remember Blossoming Defense and the other instants to give hexproof I mentioned before?).

Personally, I'd cut all the CMC6 and higher except for Rishkar's Expertise, Seasons Past, Pathbreaker Ibex, Ghalta, Primal Hunger and maybe Zendikar Resurgent and Sandwurm Convergence. Using good lower CMC spells to activate and protect Rhonas making the deck lighter. Keep in mind that rhonas is also a mana dump for the late game and if you are using his activated ability during your turn you won't have mana available for big spells.

forevermayhem on Johan

7 years ago

I went through the rest of the cards in the shoebox and made the following tweaks. With the few cards I have, it looks like I can lead toward elf tribal. I should probably post this as a new deck because it's very much different.

Land:

In: Forgotten Cave, Contested Cliffs, Tranquil Thicket, 1 Forest, 1 Mountain

Creatures:

In: Clockwork Steed, Clockwork Swarm, Mobile Fort, Kelsinko Ranger, Nomad Decoy, Witch Hunter, Seasoned Marshal, Ardent Militia, Anger, Wall of Fire, Wall of Diffusion, Centaur Chieftain, Harvester Druid, Werebear, Wall of Ice, Sylvan Hierophant, Llanowar Knight, Llanowar Elves, Elvish Scrapper, Wellwisher, Wirewood Elf, Wirewood Herald, Skyshroud Elf, Fyndhorn Elder, Elvish Pathcutter, Symbiotic Elf, Heedless One

Out: Balduvian Barbarians, Centaur Rootcaster, Dire Wolves, Folk of the Pines, Horned Kavu, Hungry Mist, Ironroot Treefolk, Kavu Climber, Kei Takahashi, Krosan Tusker, Lightning Elemental, Marble Titan, Panther Warriors, Pincher Beetles, Rowan Treefolk, Ruham Djinn, Sawtooth Ogre, Soldevi Golem, Spined Wurm, Treespring Lorian, Viashino Grappler

Instants:

In: Giant Growth, Run Wild, Moment's Peace, Wirewood Pride, Shatter, Lead Astray, Shield Wall, Accelerate

Out: Alabaster Potion, Ambush, Aura Blast, Blood Lust, Death Ward, Fiery Temper, Lightning Blast, Naturalize, Second Thoughts, Serene Offering, Soothing Balm, Thunderbolt, Violent Eruption

Sorcery:

In: Defiant Stand, Sacred Nectar, Reckless Charge, Nature's Lore, Aftershock

Out: Desert Twister, Lava Axe, Nostalgic Dreams, Scorching Missile, Sizzle

Enchantments:

In: Wild Growth, Serra's Embrace, Shackles, Primal Order, Elvish Guidance

Out: Arcane Teachings, Armor of Faith, Goblin War Drums, Granite Grip, Holy Armor, Primal Frenzy, Regeneration, Seton's Desire

Artifacts:

In: Touchstone, Jade Monolith, Icy Manipulator

Out: Crown of the Ages, Thran Forge