Thornling

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Conflux (CON) Mythic Rare

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Thornling

Creature — Elemental Shapeshifter

{{G}}: Thornling gains haste until end of turn.

{{G}}: Thornling gains trample until end of turn.

{{G}}: Thornling is indestructible this turn.

{{1}}: Thornling gets +1/-1 until end of turn.

{{1}}: Thornling gets -1/+1 until end of turn.

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jcsmbio07018 on Lord Windgrace MLD cEDH

1 month ago

CamTheMan505 noone ever notices Necro's clause, don't worry :P

Karoo lands come to mind but I feel they are lackluster, actually slow us more than they help, etc. What about multiple land drops? Azusa, Wayward Swordtooh, Mina and Denn, Oracle of Mul Daya... These are all on the maybeboard and might help. Another alternative is cutting Null Rod and running artifact ramp: Grim Monolith, Signets, the one Talisman we can run...

My meta is somewhat competitive :P So no ridiculous amount of creature pressure. If there's creature pressura it's generally to combo in a single attack (Selvala, Yisan, etc.). Only one Markov vampire deck stands as a true creature aggro deck. However, I think playing cheap boardwipes might be more effective. Examples: Pyroclasm, Fiery Cannonade, Whipflare, Infest, Anger of the Gods, Sweltering Suns... You can drop them all 1/2 turns before you play or commander, or even the same, if you -3 then wipe the board with 2 mana, you are set.

What indestructible creatures work towards our plan besides the simple fact of being indestructible? After a little googling I came upon:

Hazoret the Fervent - Pitches lands and works around the fact that we have little card advantage (?) ;

Myojin of Infinite Rage - Cost a million mana but wipes lands by itself if nothing else (?) ; Predator Ooze - it's... big? xD ;

Sapling of Colfenor - Actually might work. It draws us cards if they are creatures, doesn't lose us life like Dark Confidant... We are a little short on creatures but I think this is the best one so far, as far as non-conditional indestructible creatures go;

Song of Freyalise - Most telegraphed "I'll wipe the board 2 turns from now" ever. However, it ramps us a lot and makes everyone of our creatures indestructible. It may be nice;

Stonehoof Chieftain - really big, makes everything indestructible in post combat. However, it costs a huge amount of mana;

Temur Sabertooth - Well, saving our utility creatures, recycling ETBs and leaving a 4/3 behind, might be worth some consideration at least;

Thornling: Well... it's not good, it's not bad...;

Yahenni, Undying Partisan - This one gets REALLY big after a board wipe, just sac a dork for it and take over the game. I actually like it quite a lot.

KongMing on The Entmoot of Fanghorn Forest

3 months ago

Have you considered Brightling or Thornling? The ability to give Thornling Haste and Trample especially makes it very threatening in late-game when you have mana to Haste and Trample and/or pump it for a sneaky win.

DemonDragonJ on Battlebond Spoilers Threaad

3 months ago

I really like how there is now a white equivalent of Morphling, Torchling, and Thornling: brightling. Hopefully, there shall eventually be a black equivalent, to complete the cycle.

With the printing of arena rector, a reference to Academy Rector, will there eventually be equivalents that search for artifacts, creatures, and lands?

How is fan favorite black? Black is the least cooperative and most selfish of all the colors, so I believe that it should be either red, white, or green, the colors of community and cooperation.

jeacaveo on *Hypnotoad* EDH

6 months ago

Pretty spicy stuff!

I love Cascading Cataracts to filter, never thought of that.

On the Ooze combo, have you considered a haste enabler to avoid waiting a whole turn cycle to activate it for infinite green? There's a few of them, but one should be enough: Blighted Bat, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Thornling.

Also, why all the life gain Zuran Orb/Gnaw to the Bone?

Imp's Mischief seems amazing! I need to try that out!

JuQ on Rhonas, MonoG Boxing Club

6 months ago

Damm, I can't resist a good primer!

I'm a big fan of Deathtouch and I love to capitalize on it.
Deathtouch is amazing with Trample and with First Strike, but Rhonas is already Indestructible, so there is no need for First Strike unless you want to make Deathtouch a deck wide theme.
Give trample to a deathtoucher and it will only need to deal 1 damage to each blocker and trample the rest to the opponent, you can easily kill by commander damage. You don't need flashy finishers when your commander is cheap, big, unstoppable and unkillable.
Rancor is definitely a must, Vow of Wildness is efficient, Fists of Ironwood it's nice because the saprolings are great to protect Rhonas agains sacrifices, Berserk a bit expensive but absolutely OP for Rhonas, Ring of Kalonia, O-Naginata low costs and amazing, Loxodon Warhammer all time classic.

Ranged damage and provoking blockers: Nature's Way, Enlarge, Revenge of the Hunted, Tower Above, Nemesis Mask, maybe Seton's Desire. I'm not naming Fight effects because I guess you know them all already.

Pariah's Shield on rhonas and you will never be attacked again.

A couple resilient creatures more with power 4 Thornling, Manor Gargoyle. Maybe I would even consider Bonesplitter as a cheap way to activate Rhonas.

Rhonas biggest problem may be targeted spells that will usually exile him, bounce him or control him. Blossoming Defense, Ranger's Guile and Vines of Vastwood best thing for only one green mana, Hapatra's Mark is not as good but if you want a fourth one, it exists. Also Homeward Path is always good if you are not the one stealing creatures or animating them from graveyards. Brooding Saurian same effect just in case your meta is full of blue and black decks.

I'd say the amount of card draw you have is OK, but in my deck I would make some changes (personal preferences):
Regal Force out because it has a high cost and it is a "win more" card, If you are losing it won't help you much. You are not going to cheat it onto the battlefield so you most likely won't be able to do anything else in the turn and you'll have to discard many of them. You're not getting any extra juice from it either, no flickering in your deck.
Soul of the Harvest I actually like a lot this card, I put it in many decks, but it never stays long, it always goes back to the album.
Four cards you're considering are better options Elemental Bond, Garruk's Packleader (Lower cost and can trigger from tokens). Hunter's Insight is great, yes. Drumhunter perfectly on curve with Rhonas. I'd add to the list Life's Legacy: I know you don't like to sacrifice your creatures, but getting four or five ccards out of a creature for just two mana is a really good deal. Mouth / Feed I'm liking this card a lot, it gives you a 3/3 body in the early game and a slightly worse Shamanic Revelation from the graveyard. Also Garruk, Primal Hunter fits perfectly here.
Don't forget to include a Reliquary Tower and maybe even Thought Vessel if you feel you're having problems to hold you hand.

I wouldn't bother with the one drop mana dorks, you need a lot of them to be sure you get one in your opening hand, but they are kinda useless after that. It is not so important to have a second turn Rhonas, if they have a Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares or Reality Shift they will be able to use it anyway.
I would however swap Cultivate, Kodama's Reach and Arbor Elf for Sakura-Tribe Elder, Nature's Lore, Rampant Growth and Emerald Medallion. Arbor elf is one of those one drop mana dorks, Sakura-tribe elder in the late game will be able to block and fulfill his duty of bringing a land. Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are great but they have the same mana as Rhonas, so you will have to delay Rhonas or cast them in the fourth turn instead of a power 4 creature.
Using CMC2 mana ramps will allow you to play Rhonas on the third turn and have a mana open for reactions (remember Blossoming Defense and the other instants to give hexproof I mentioned before?).

Personally, I'd cut all the CMC6 and higher except for Rishkar's Expertise, Seasons Past, Pathbreaker Ibex, Ghalta, Primal Hunger and maybe Zendikar Resurgent and Sandwurm Convergence. Using good lower CMC spells to activate and protect Rhonas making the deck lighter. Keep in mind that rhonas is also a mana dump for the late game and if you are using his activated ability during your turn you won't have mana available for big spells.

poorpinkus on Infinite Combos in EDH - Experiment Kraj Budget

8 months ago

viveter Myriad blade wouldn't work since Kraj is legendary, but I gotta be honest I feel like I have enough ways to get around creatures that it'd be a unnecessary to ad more options; AEtherling, Cephalid Inkshrouder, Pemmin's Aura, Whispersilk Cloak, , Thornling and Morphling both work really well since they protects both Kraj and themselves while also offering evasion, Beguiler of Wills, Simic Manipulator and Cytoplast Manipulator allow me to take my opponents' blockers while getting board advantage, and Ethereal Usher gives me the option to get unblockable while also letting me get cards like Arcanis the Omnipotent if I want.

The thing with this deck is that I am trying to aim for a lot of cards with multiple purposes, so for example most of my evasion cards double as protection. If I add too many cards like Blade of Selves or cards that just give unblockable, then I have a much lower chance of drawing into a combo piece that I need. The idea is that it's supposed to be as much of a Johnny deck as possible, so if I win it is by some crazy combo, but if I lose it's fine. I don't really want to make the deck unstoppable since then it wouldn't be that fun to play against if that makes any sense.

Anyways, thanks for the suggestions! I'm not entirely saying no to them, I'm just trying to reason out how I feel like the deck should work as a whole. I'll definitely be looking into mass protection cards (maybe Heroic Intervention?) as I do see some creatures that I could remove (specifically Somberwald Sage since it doesn't work for any combos, Gilder Bairn possibly because the ability costs a fair amount although untap abilities are very nice, and Beguiler of Wills/Simic Manipulator since they draw too much attention for what they are worth), so it is good to know what other people think I could work on to make the deck work better.

Bovine073 on Eldritch Ponza

9 months ago

clayperce

Looked through Joshua's list, a card I can get behind there is E-Wit. That card does seem good and could possibly get better here with Eldritch. It may be better than the 1x Courser.

For me, I don't think I will ever run more than 2 evolutions, because having two is just very bad a lot of the time.

I've never liked Acidic Slime, but i do consider it a fair bit.

Furystroke is in a weird place where it could replace bonfire but in this deck with EE I don't want to run Nissa because evolving tokens is generally bad. But in the traditional build, since you can't tutor it, Bonfire is just better.

Geez I had no idea Thornling was a card! That seems pretty sweet and could definitely rival Chameleon Colossus, but I don't want to take a stance on why or another on it yet. But definitely a card to consider. As for the WG guy, I think Chameleon is just strictly better.

I'm tempted by a scooze in the mainboard, I really am. Hmm... is it possible that I should just run 3 SB instead of any relics?

clayperce on Eldritch Ponza

9 months ago

Bovine073,
I think Eldritch Evolution's got serious potential for sure. A card that lets us turn a Bird into Magus of the Moon, right after an an opponent Inquisitions away our Blood Moon? Yeah, I'll take some of that!

I've tested Joshua's build pretty extensively (goldfishing and maybe 8 matches now) and yours just a little bit (2 matches so far), so here are some initial thoughts:

  • I like 3x Evolutions better than 2x. Being able to tutor up exactly what we want is superb, and 3x increases our chances of doing that. It also increases our chances of being able to do it twice in a game, which is a blast. E.g., My favorite play so far with the card has been vs. a Burn player who had me at 2 life. I evolved an Elf into Kitchen Finks (up to 4 life) to barely hold on, took a Bolt to the face (back to 1), but then top-decked another Evolution, which got me a Finks-with-Persist and a Thragtusk (up to 8 life), and eventually the win.
  • I'm not sure what the right number of Creatures is though ... it absolutely rots to have an Evolution in hand and no targets on the board.
  • I'm 100% with you on Merfolk Branchwalker, lol. That said though, but I really like the idea of something like Scavenging Ooze in the main. More than once, I've wanted to evolve a random Token into a 2-drop, or wished I had a 2-drop I could evolve into a 4-drop ... sure, we can go 3-drop into 4-, but it seems like a waste :-)
  • I'm not a big fan of Acidic Slime in a "normal" build, but I love it with Evolution. It's just perfect for taking out stuff like Ensnaring Bridge, Oblivion Stone, and Leyline of Sanctity in the late game. Though Reclamation Sage or even Manglehorn might be better.
  • Another toolbox card I'd like to try: Oversoul of Dusk. Also something big, fast, and tramply, like Thornling or maybe Ball Lightning/Groundbreaker.
  • I had one game where I got to live the dream of Furystoke Giant as a finisher, with a couple random creatures and a ton of Plant tokens from Nissa, Voice of Zendikar. Furystoke is very situational though, so while it obviously worked for Joshua, I would need to test it (a lot) more before recommending it.

More to follow, as I get a few more reps in ...

In the meantime, draw well!

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