|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Common|
|Shadows over Innistrad (SOI)||Common|
|Time Spiral "Timeshifted" (TSB)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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Fiery Temper deals 3 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker.
Madness (If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.)
|Have (4)||PTsmitty , orzhov_is_relatively_okay819 , GeminiSpartanX , metalmagic|
|Want (2)||AlyOfArendelle , Flamadiddle|
Fiery Temper Discussion
1 week ago
I actually made a $15 vampire deck for someone else a while back! Here it is if you want any ideas for your deck: $15 Madness Vampires.
Otherwise, here are the changes I would for sure make to your deck:
+3 Fiery Temper , -3 any of the other noncreature cards
3 weeks ago
I would prioritize having Fiery Temper over Alms of the Vein - if your meta is not overrun by burn, as in most cases the ability to point said spell at creatures & planeswalkers far outweighs the downside of not gaining 3 life.
Speaking of creatures & planeswalkers, since this deck stuffs its gravyard like there is no tomorrow, i would advise running a few (1 or 2) Magmatic Sinkhole s - as additional ways to deal with problem creatures and walkers (walkers are likely going to be even more significan't due to stuff like Wrenn and Six , Karn, the Great Creator , and UW "control" stransforming even more into a superfiends list)
In general this deck severely lacks in discard outlets. Depending on your taste and budget i would advise adding a playset of either Goblin Lore , Cathartic Reunion or Seasoned Pyromancer (the latter also acts as a way to operate if the graveyard is shut down by some enchantment - which is not that unlikely thanks to hoogak even in game 1) MAX OUT ON Hollow One & Flamewake Phoenix THEY ARE THE CORE OF THE STRATEGY - they are good in multiples, while delve creatures do diddle, since you pay you grave empty, and the second copy just orts in hand (not to mention their vulnerability to gravyard hate)
1 month ago
Looks good so far, Fiery Temper would be a nice addition since you have your discard effects. Possibly you could cut 2 removal spells for them since you're getting more value off them as they have madness.
1 month ago
This is now the 3rd revision. In this revision I removed Olivia's Dragoon , Succumb to Temptation , Murderous Compulsion , Abundant Maw , Fiery Temper , Pale Rider of Trostad , Stromkirk Condemned , Vampire Cutthroat , Bloodrage Brawler , Call the Bloodline , Sanguinary Mage , Furyblade Vampire .
Instead more powerful vampires were added as well as cards that were cheaper with a draw mechanic.
2 months ago
I find when budget building, its better to try and find cheaper cards with synergies than do straight downgrades.
Cards like Goblin Grenade / Shrapnel Blast also alow for cards like Howl of the Horde to have an oversize impact- 15 damage turn four is no joke. Pack a Bomat Courier , some disposable artifacts, Slag Fiend and you've got yourself a deck that will make people blink.
There are similar options throughout mono red- less exciting but still powerful cards which are just less flexible than other options. Maligned one drops like Stromkirk Noble , or standard funstuff like Breath of Fury .
Magic09865 on ccc
2 months ago
Circular Logic : Mid-game Counterspell, Flashback:
Fiery Temper : Flashback-Lightning Bolt ->
3 months ago
I think that removing Olivia for the 3rd captain would be a good idea.
I think the madness element of the deck might be too cute, however, I haven't yet experimented much with it outside of running Fiery Temper in my original izzet phoenix brews... Leave it in for now, maybe it's something to look at down the line. It can definitely be efficient (especially when against Liliana of the Veil or if you add her yourself) but it may not be relevant enough to keep in. Try for a few weeks, see how you feel about it. I think my biggest question for your madness question is do you feel you've had enough opportunities to discard those cards?
If you really do like the madness theme, I do highly recommend Bloodhall Priest . That's probably my favorite madness card from shadows, but I'm, also biased towards it!!
As for your local meta, if tron is an issue than I do highly recommend adding in either Fulminator Mage or Crumble to Dust as was said above. I know you already have the 2 Damping Sphere to help against tron, but they may not be enough. For your deck, I'd recommend Fulminator Mage since it can be aggressive and swing but also whacks any land. Can be Colonnade , a Tron Piece or any other utility land for that matter. Maybe remove the Settle the Wreckage for them.
3 months ago
APPLE01DOJ: there is 0 invalid arguments on my part. the number of noncreatures i have is irrelevant. i always have the colors i need. and even without my Manaweft Sliver , i still always have the colors i need. they do not nullify my statement. my sideboard regularly undergoes changes and often ends up full of noncreatures. i can run Terminate , Negate , and Deflecting Palm simultaneously without issue.
are we even looking at the same vampire deck? there is only a single noncreature in the entire deck that requires double red or double black. the Fiery Temper .
your hypothetical "ask yourself this" question is irrelevant. if you're stuck on 2 mana, you're losing due to not having enough TOTAL mana, not because of a lack of colored mana. when he gets that 3rd land, he'll be fine. the statistical chances of that 3rd land being another cavern are really low. by turn 3 (before the draw) you'll have seen 8 cards (7 opening plus 1 draw) if you're on the play. so we're left with 3 cards in 52 being a cavern before that 3rd turn draw. thats about a 1 in 17 chance it will be another cavern.
if you're being mana screwed by a single copy of nykthos, thats just bad deckbuilding or bad luck, especially if it happens "a lot". you either have too many cards costing triple black, or your permanents are being destroyed.
whether the use of counters are heavy or not doesn't really matter. better to have the cavern and not need it, than need it and not have it.
bottom line, hard numbers and math prove my point. you're confusing "possible" with "probable", and the 2 are not the same.
Fiery Temper occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.09%