Manor Gargoyle

Artifact Creature — Gargoyle

Defender

Manor Gargoyle is indestructible as long as it has defender.

{{1}}: Until end of turn, Manor Gargoyle loses defender and gains flying.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (14)

Snap157 on Grixis control now that I have a job

5 years ago

1x Telepathy allows you to see what is worth countering and will use your spells wisely. Think Twice will benefit you more than Compulsive Research. I'm a little confused as to why you're running Yahenni's Expertise when it would kill your Nightveil Predator. I've found that my best control wincon for casual play is either Manor Gargoyle or Vampire Nighthawk, and i thin you could afford to lose the gearhulk

borosdrunkard on Razzle Dazzle

5 years ago

Solid start!

I think the deck could definitely use some ramp or defensive-jank to build up until you can cast Razaketh. You might consider Darksteel Myr or Manor Gargoyle for blockage-effects. The deck could also benefit from either some recursion or token generation - Razaketh is a hungry boy, and you'll want to make sure you're not forced into sacrificing your other demons to get his effects. Golden guardian is good for this, but 4 mana every time feels pricey. Maybe Rite of Belzenlok ?

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on The Department of Defense

5 years ago

Balzeron: First of all I would like to say that I am honored that my deck has helped inspire your deck building. Secondly, I have some responses to you comments below:

Amaranthine Wall and Hornet Nest are ones that I am still considering. The indestructibility is definitely a nice ability and being able to make a bunch of 1/1 flying death touchers when someone blocks the nest is pretty awesome.

Fog Bank, Guard Gomazoa, and Mindbender Spores are all great cards if you are going a more defensive route. I chose to exclude them because I am a more aggressive list and I wanted big (4 toughness or greater), cheap walls.

Hover Barrier, Monastery Flock, Wall of Air, and Living Wall could all easily be swapped in here and are a preference choice if you are worried about fliers.

My deck personally doesn't want cards like Manor Gargoyle, Ezuri, Claw of Progress, Woolly Razorback, Plumeveil, Soulbound Guardians, or Fortified Area as all of these cards either have power greater than 2 or pump my creatures power. I rely heavily on staying at 2 power or less so I can abuse Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive or Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa.

The same goes for Doorkeeper. Mill is already hard enough to pull off with a dedicated mill deck in EDH because decks are large and there are 3 opponents. I'd rather play either larger walls or defenders with more relevant abilities.

The banding suggestions are interesting. I had to re-read the rules on banding and I did not realize it also affects attacking creatures. Those could be interesting, I'll have to think about that.

Champion's Helm is a great suggestion. Wave of Reckoning is a good board wipe for Arcades, however, I feel that the 4 I have all have a bit more upside.

Spidersilk Armor and Tower Defense are awesome with Arcades and may very well end up in my final list. Right now I want to try out Hold the Gates over Spidersilk Armor as it has a higher upside and I already have a number of answers for fliers (Wonder, Angelic Wall, Wall of Tanglecord, Wall of Denial and Arcades himself). Since this list is aggressive, I think vigilance is actually a more impactful keyword in my deck. I already have a pseudo Tower Defense in Defender of the Order. I don't think Defender is particularly better than the Defense, but I have an old foil of it from Legions which I just really want to play.

Thanks for the comments and if you ever want another pair of eyes on your deck, let me know.

Balzeron on The Department of Defense

5 years ago

This is actually a deck I really want to build, and know nothing about making a commander deck, so I'm keeping a very close eye on this deck! Some card suggestions/ideas I personally have would be:

Amaranthine Wall, I played this wall in a draft game a few weeks ago and the indestructible ability pretty much won the game for me by itself, and is what inspired me to think about this kind of deck. Manor Gargoyle is another good choice for this.

Champion's Helm, Good equipment to keep our commander safe

Doorkeeper, the mill potential is pretty high here

Ezuri, Claw of Progress, since so many walls have 0 power,

Wave of Reckoning, as another board wipe

Woolly Razorback, doesn't have defender, but is cheap, becomes a 7/7, and can block literally any amount of damage 3 times

Fog Bank, Guard Gomazoa, Hover Barrier, Monastery Flock, Plumeveil, Soulbound Guardians, Wall of Air, Spidersilk Armor Tower Defense as flying blockers, as this deck seems really open to flying

Shield Bearer, Wall of Caltrops, Wall of Shields, Fortified Area, Baton of Morale, Helm of Chatzuk, Formation, Remember banding? I used to love banding! I think banding would compliment a wall deck very well. Being able to dictate where your opponents damage goes is a big plus I think

Hornet Nest, Living Wall,Mindbender Spores, are other good additions.

What do you think of these suggestions? I really want to buy the cards for a deck like this soon, and your deck is a huge inspiration to me.

untraceablez on arcades

5 years ago

I'd eliminate

Necropolis
Wall of Junk
Fog Bank
Mana Crypt
Lifecrafter's Bestiary
Herald's Horn
Dovin Baan
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
Venser, the Sojourner
Ajani Steadfast
Elspeth, Sun's Champion

Replace

Zendikar Resurgent with Mirari's Wake
Cloud Key with Semblance Anvil

Pitch the following from Maybeboard

Guard Duty
Crenellated Wall
Manor Gargoyle

JuQ on Rhonas, MonoG Boxing Club

6 years ago

Damm, I can't resist a good primer!

I'm a big fan of Deathtouch and I love to capitalize on it.
Deathtouch is amazing with Trample and with First Strike, but Rhonas is already Indestructible, so there is no need for First Strike unless you want to make Deathtouch a deck wide theme.
Give trample to a deathtoucher and it will only need to deal 1 damage to each blocker and trample the rest to the opponent, you can easily kill by commander damage. You don't need flashy finishers when your commander is cheap, big, unstoppable and unkillable.
Rancor is definitely a must, Vow of Wildness is efficient, Fists of Ironwood it's nice because the saprolings are great to protect Rhonas agains sacrifices, Berserk a bit expensive but absolutely OP for Rhonas, Ring of Kalonia, O-Naginata low costs and amazing, Loxodon Warhammer all time classic.

Ranged damage and provoking blockers: Nature's Way, Enlarge, Revenge of the Hunted, Tower Above, Nemesis Mask, maybe Seton's Desire. I'm not naming Fight effects because I guess you know them all already.

Pariah's Shield on rhonas and you will never be attacked again.

A couple resilient creatures more with power 4 Thornling, Manor Gargoyle. Maybe I would even consider Bonesplitter as a cheap way to activate Rhonas.

Rhonas biggest problem may be targeted spells that will usually exile him, bounce him or control him. Blossoming Defense, Ranger's Guile and Vines of Vastwood best thing for only one green mana, Hapatra's Mark is not as good but if you want a fourth one, it exists. Also Homeward Path is always good if you are not the one stealing creatures or animating them from graveyards. Brooding Saurian same effect just in case your meta is full of blue and black decks.

I'd say the amount of card draw you have is OK, but in my deck I would make some changes (personal preferences):
Regal Force out because it has a high cost and it is a "win more" card, If you are losing it won't help you much. You are not going to cheat it onto the battlefield so you most likely won't be able to do anything else in the turn and you'll have to discard many of them. You're not getting any extra juice from it either, no flickering in your deck.
Soul of the Harvest I actually like a lot this card, I put it in many decks, but it never stays long, it always goes back to the album.
Four cards you're considering are better options Elemental Bond, Garruk's Packleader (Lower cost and can trigger from tokens). Hunter's Insight is great, yes. Drumhunter perfectly on curve with Rhonas. I'd add to the list Life's Legacy: I know you don't like to sacrifice your creatures, but getting four or five ccards out of a creature for just two mana is a really good deal. Mouth / Feed I'm liking this card a lot, it gives you a 3/3 body in the early game and a slightly worse Shamanic Revelation from the graveyard. Also Garruk, Primal Hunter fits perfectly here.
Don't forget to include a Reliquary Tower and maybe even Thought Vessel if you feel you're having problems to hold you hand.

I wouldn't bother with the one drop mana dorks, you need a lot of them to be sure you get one in your opening hand, but they are kinda useless after that. It is not so important to have a second turn Rhonas, if they have a Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares or Reality Shift they will be able to use it anyway.
I would however swap Cultivate, Kodama's Reach and Arbor Elf for Sakura-Tribe Elder, Nature's Lore, Rampant Growth and Emerald Medallion. Arbor elf is one of those one drop mana dorks, Sakura-tribe elder in the late game will be able to block and fulfill his duty of bringing a land. Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are great but they have the same mana as Rhonas, so you will have to delay Rhonas or cast them in the fourth turn instead of a power 4 creature.
Using CMC2 mana ramps will allow you to play Rhonas on the third turn and have a mana open for reactions (remember Blossoming Defense and the other instants to give hexproof I mentioned before?).

Personally, I'd cut all the CMC6 and higher except for Rishkar's Expertise, Seasons Past, Pathbreaker Ibex, Ghalta, Primal Hunger and maybe Zendikar Resurgent and Sandwurm Convergence. Using good lower CMC spells to activate and protect Rhonas making the deck lighter. Keep in mind that rhonas is also a mana dump for the late game and if you are using his activated ability during your turn you won't have mana available for big spells.

Snap157 on Viable finisher in control?

6 years ago

I've been building a casual dimir control deck for a while and have been looking for a wincon that is hard to remove, can block, not super hard to cast, and can close out games pretty quick.

Manor Gargoyle looks amazing for this job, but I'm concerned about the amount of plays it gets (zero). It's so low that I'm wondering if i don't see the thing that makes it unplayable?

thanks

carpecanum on Purge the Unbelievers

7 years ago

Ghostway if you want another copy of Eerie Interlude.

Manor Gargoyle or any of the "darksteel" indestructible guys.

Expedition Map would let you tutor for Emeria or Nykthos

Enduring Renewal is kinda clunky, but if you have a good set up of creatures its sweet (or if you can play creatures from your graveyard).