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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pauper | Legal |
| Pauper Duel Commander | Legal |
| Pauper EDH | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Whiplash Trap
Instant — Trap
If an opponent had two or more creatures enter the battlefield under their control this turn, you may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Return two target creatures to their owners' hands.
multimedia on
Kalamax-imum Overdrive
3 years ago
Hey, good upgrades of the precon. Interesting version with lots of creatures. I've been playing Kalamax on a budget since he was released and I personally prefer less creatures and more instants/sorceries. My version is very different than yours, but I have some suggestions of how you can improve your version.
Cards from the precon to consider adding:
Kessig Wolf Run is one of the better support lands with Kalamax since it can a repeatable source of trample. Getting both Run and Encampment or Settlement with Crop Rotation is nice. Run is a land upgrade for Sapseep Forest. Harrow is one of the better land ramp spells with Kalamax because you sac one land to search for four basic lands of your choice and put them onto the battlefield untapped. Getting the basic lands untapped gives you mana to cast a spell on an opponent's turn and that's really the strength of Kalamax. Harrow is better than Natural Connection.
Primal Empathy is a fine repeatable draw source since Kalamax is going to most likely be the biggest creature on the battlefield and if he isn't then put another counter on him to make him bigger. The three Bounce lands are good budget lands that are upgrades for Guildgates and Life lands (Rugged Highlands).
Some cards to consider adding:
- Narset's Reversal
- Shared Summons
- Wavebreak Hippocamp
- Cultivator's Caravan
- Sprite Dragon
- Paradise Druid
Narset's Reversal is powerful with Kalamax since it can be a repeatable instant. You can return the original Reversal back to your hand with the copy of Reversal that Kalamax makes and still get a copy of opponent's or your own instant/sorcery you first copied. The repeatable interaction is nice with Guttersnipe and other creatures who ping your opponents. Reversal could replace Volcanic Geyser.
Shared Summons is an instant creature tutor that can get any two different creatures. With Kalamax it can tutor for four different creatures. Summons could replace Whiplash Trap. Wavebreak Hippocamp could replace Lunar Mystic. It's one less mana and the draw is repeatable for no mana cost. Sprite Dragon is a upgrade for Spellgorger Weird. It's one less mana and has evasion flying to take more advantage of having a lot of counters.
Paradise Druid can tap to make any color of mana and can use this mana to cast any card. Paradise is a ramp upgrade for Vodalian Arcanist. Cultivator's Caravan is an upgrade for a three drop mana rock because of crew 3 which is a repeatable way at instant speed tap Kalamax.
Good luck with your deck.
visland on
Talrand vs Everybody *Live*
3 years ago
visland on
Talrand vs Everybody *Live*
3 years ago
-Windreader Sphinx (just too big cmc)
-Pongify (budget)
-Arcane Denial (budget)
-Counterspell (budget)
-Island x 2
Bahoola on
Kalamax MTGGoldfish 20$
3 years ago
MTGGoldfish - Out! (29 cards)
Nascent Metamorph
Eon Frolicker
Xyris, the Writhing Storm
Ravenous Gigantotherium
Jace, Architect of Thought
Predatory Impetus
Shiny Impetus
Psychic Impetus
Primal Empathy
Lavabrink Floodgates
Bonder's Ornament
Prophetic Bolt
Clash of Titans
Slice in Twain
Curious Herd
Strength of the Tajuru
Goblin Dark-Dwellers
Artifact Mutation
Evolution Charm
Whiplash Trap
Surreal Memoir
Haldan, Avid Arcanist
Pako, Arcane Retriever
Hunting Pack
Rupture Spire
Decoy Gambit
Etali, Primal Storm
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
Desolate Lighthouse
metalemmanuel on
Yuriko Reality and Consultants - cEDH
4 years ago
dingusdingo First Nevermore is never ever played in cEDH and it doesnt even affect Yuriko since Yuriko isnt cast at all.
Sol Ring is just a preference. It can be good, can be bad depending of your starting hand. If you also have another mana rock and enabler it can be amazing. I do agree it is amazing in a turn build, but he doesnt like it.
Dark Ritual is still amazing ramp for and mana either way and it is super efficient at one black
Misdirection is strictly better against a lot of the Uncounterable spells present in cEDH and isnt even that bad in a counter wars. It is still free
Swan Song is a good counter I wont say the opposite , but in his meta it is likely worse. I wouldnt play Tale's End if it was me, but he has probably reasons for it.
Pyroclasm doesnt kill Yuriko First. He still has other counters to counter Pyroclasm.
Whiplash Trap Contagion arent amazing in creature-less meta, but in a meta with a lot of dorks i can understand his reasoning.
About the no Top List... Again Top is a preference. It is an amazing late game grinding tool when you have the mana for it and can help in a pure burn/turn list like Selesnya, but in a more controlly/tempo one, you need all the mana available.
You are just being a rude guy and there is no need to be super agressive and treating him of clown. Maybe you are defending your friend, but no need to be passive/aggressive. You did make your point but it was unecessary to be rude.
I played against one of them with my Kess List (not updated on tapped out, it is a fully fledged one) and I was surprised by their differents build.
The Yuriko discord is a lot bigger than him and the other guy I'm pretty sure, and your "friend" selesnya should maybe come to the discord to discuss his choice
dingusdingo on
Yuriko Reality and Consultants - cEDH
4 years ago
MadCatMax I gave a very clear reasoning. You are able to hit your infinite turns combo much faster if you are able to pay the mana reliably.
Your combo costs
- for the Oboro activation
- Play a land and have at least 3 other islands in play
- Cast Time Warp for
- Total cost is
- 3 Islands + Mystic provides
- There is still required every execution of your turns loop
- You run 3 rock accelerators in a 99 card deck, and also Dark Ritual which is not effective for the loop
- Even utilizing the untap effect from Oboro on one of your own lands, the earliest you can rip this combo is turn 6 without accelerators.
- This is assuming you hit a land drop every turn for 6 turns. 29 lands, probably not.
You have colorless mana costs in Intuition Oboro Breezecaller Commandeer Force of Negation Misdirection Spellstutter Sprite Tale's End Gingerbrute Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive Fallen Shinobi Ingenious Infiltrator Mist-Syndicate Naga Mistblade Shinobi Sakashima's Student Skullsnatcher Universal Automaton Brazen Borrower Contagion Cyclonic Rift Snuff Out Submerge Whiplash Trap Back to Basics Chains of Mephistopheles Cursed Totem Grafdigger's Cage Scroll Rack Temporal Manipulation Temporal Mastery Temporal Trespass Time Warp Demonic Tutor Diabolic Intent Hope of Ghirapur and Snapcaster Mage. That's 35 cards, literally exactly half of your non-land cards. Of course you can argue that a handful of these have alternate costs that don't include colorless mana, such as the pitch-to-play and some of the ninjutsu, which removes 10 cards from the "uses colorless mana" list. Either way, a quarter of the actual cards you draw and a third of the non-land cards you draw use colorless mana, and the alternate cost cards you will undoubtedly sometimes pay full price for when games go long and resources are available. I didn't even count your two burn cards.
I know you're trying to be clever by cutting slots, and I know this deck doesn't have the explosive plays of hitting Sol ring into mana rocks. Don't try to reinvent the wheel and get clever by cutting mana positive rocks in a deck that uses mana.
My comment is more directed at your friend, who I wrote a very elaborate response to as for inclusions for Sensei's Top in his Doomsday list, and how being reliant on your commander and creatures entirely for card advantage as well as pile cracking is setting him up for failure. Rather than respond, he chose to delete and block me. These decks have a bigger overall problem of being decent competitive decks against most match ups, but absolutely entirely worthless against certain match ups that completely hose the strategy because of how reliant on the commander these decks are. Nevermore on your commander either causes you to scoop or pray for amazing top deck. Repeated Pyroclasm effects resolving cause scoops. Choosing to run Misdirection over Swan Song means if you're counting on Misdirection to stop Pyroclasm you're scooping, or if you're counting on it to stop Demonic Consultation or Flash or Tainted Pact you're scooping. Yes I know it makes a bird token for blocking, but slotting bad cards is your biggest problem.
No I'm not joining your discord. You two are clowns, enjoy brewing your mediocre deck on your own. I'll enjoy the free wins if I ever end up in a pod against someone playing one of these decks.
dingusdingo on
Yuriko Reality and Consultants - cEDH
4 years ago
Doesn't run Sol Ring but your second preferred combo involves repeatedly casting Time Warp. Yeah that's gonna be a "No" from me dog.
I can appreciate high CMC alternate cost spells, but Whiplash Trap is too conditional. Also Contagion is not good enough removal to take a slot.