Hope of Ghirapur
Legendary Artifact Creature — Thopter
Sacrifice Hope of Ghirapur: Until your next turn, target player who was dealt combat damage by Hope of Ghirapur this turn can't cast noncreature spells.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Hope of Ghirapur Discussion
3 months ago
3 months ago
Hey, my turbo frog list actually comes as a variation of Martyr, as that is the deck that I play. Martyr already plays a one of Kami of False Hope which can lock the opponent if they are playing no ways to deal with Abiding Grace. The win condition is usually Squadron Hawk, Solitude or Serra Ascendant. There is also room to play Hope of Ghirapur to lock out control and combo.
3 months ago
The main problem with Fog style lists is that Enchantress does basically the same thing with Solitary Confinement, except more compact and with a better shell.
That said, you could theoretically assemble a much weirder concept. Using cards like Hope of Ghirapur and Judge's Familiar to assemble other locks, something like Ravenous Squirrel to act as a big beater, and cards like Rally the Ancestors to bring everything back.
I recommend the Cauldron Familiar Witch's Oven combo to go with Ravenous Squirrel. You can also use Thraben Inspector as a draw engine -- just sac it to Oven or another sac outlet and get all the clues you need.
It might work pretty well, but I'm no aristocrats player so I couldn't tell you.
5 months ago
I think I have a few things that might work for you.
This first is Child's Choices. The idea is to be playing only with cards that give opponents choices to make. Everything from good ones like Rhystic Study to meh ones like Killing Wave. I use to run a 60 card deck based around the same thing. This is kind of a side project.
Next up I'm not sure really counts but Beep-Beep Motherfucker. Its a vehical deck which isn't that unique but it is more focused on tapping and untapping things that have abilities like King Macar, the Gold-Cursed and Fallowsage. I dunno if this is all that unique though, I just haven't seen it out in the wild.
Last idea is playing the best color, colorless In all seriousness if your meta doesn't have a colorless commander floating around it needs one! There are all kinds of silly things you can do if you just pay a little more mana than other colors usually have to. Check out my Druken Distortion. Though if you are looking for unique you might build Hope of Ghirapur or Karn, Silver Golem instead. Just watch out for that Vandalblast...
6 months ago
Lord_Rivandere: I'm glad this deck inspires you, in all its MANY incarnations!
Yeah, the current version is definitely much more complex to pilot than the early versions -- the synergies are less obvious, but they're still there!
There's a few more ways to flip Avacyn you might have missed! Beyond the four obvious self-sacrifice creatures ( Benevolent Bodyguard , Ranger-Captain of Eos , Selfless Spirit , and Remorseful Cleric ), we also have two other controllable death triggers in Solitude 's evoke ability and the germ when we unequip Nettlecyst . Also, Ranger of Eos almost always retrieves Benevolent Bodyguard as one of its two creatures, so that's essentially a guaranteed flip as well :)
And sometimes it's worth just using a Sword of Fire and Ice or Umezawa's Jitte trigger to hit our own things in a pinch ;) But yeah, the flip damage has become a bit less of a true FOCUS and more of a... deterrent? "You'd better not block/kill/attack my hatebear, otherwise Avacyn will Purify your battlefield with deathtouch!"
I don't quite understand something you said: why can't I use Fiery Emancipation without flipping Avacyn?
And yeah, there are SO many things I want to add to this deck... Hope of Ghirapur seems playable again given Urza's Saga , I want to find a slot for Kaldra Compleat so I can cheat it out with Stoneforge (and get another death trigger off the germ), and there's at least 4 cards I'm definitely testing in Avacyn from the new set ( Share the Spoils , Fighter Class , Oswald Fiddlebender , Mantle of the Ancients) and like 20 more I'm considering (including Robe of Stars)... This deck does so many things, though (voltron-control-hatebears-combo), that it's really hard to find slots...
I'd love to talk further about Avacyn whenever you want! You can either ask me here, or reach out on Discord: daedalus#8885
7 months ago
I will also add though that Toralf's Hammer is better than it looks. The deck has little evasion so the +3/+0 can actually make the opponent hesitate to block OR you can put it on what little evasion there is with Hope of Ghirapur or Kari Zev, Skyship Raider to get in for real damage. We aren't playing Lightning Bolt either so the 3 damage can sometimes make a difference. The high mana cost doesn't really feel that bad either because everything else in the deck is so cheap and Mox Amber helps, too.
I also agree that Tymaret, the Murder King is not the greatest magic card but we do need a critical mass of legendary permanents for Mox Amber and a 2/2 that can give SOME* value off of additional legendary cards is the best there is. I am hoping for another decent legendary 1 or 2 drop in rakdos colors in the next set!
7 months ago
king-saproling, thank you for your suggestions :) Training Grounds would be awesome indeed, but I can't afford that card. I have a hard time evaluating Hope of Ghirapur , but maybe it would be a good idea to add Sevinne's Reclamation then, as I have a couple of cards that sacrifice themselves. I din't have Esior, Wardwing Familiar on my radar as a cheap flyer with an alright effect, so thank you.
7 months ago
You might like these: Training Grounds , Hope of Ghirapur , Stormscape Familiar , Sunscape Familiar , Esior, Wardwing Familiar , Gravitational Shift , Pride of the Clouds , Empyrean Eagle , Alabaster Leech , Sapphire Leech , Geist-Fueled Scarecrow