Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver

Planeswalker — Ashiok

+2: Exile the top three cards of target opponent's library.

-X: Put a creature card with converted mana cost X exiled with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is a Nightmare in addition to its other types.

-10: Exile all cards from all opponents' hands and graveyards.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

wallisface on U/B Mill

2 months ago

Mill decks only ever want to be running Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab as creatures. Any other options are just not helpful or conductive towards winning. Specifically:

• both Consuming Aberration and Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker cost such a high amount of mana that the game should already be over (mill decks should be aiming to win by turn 4). and both barely does any amount of actual milling for their egregious costs.

• Duskmantle Guildmage is only useful as a combo card with Mindcrank. On its own it's basically useless. If you are doing the Mindcrank combo then there's no real reason to run any other mill cards.

• Fog Bank does nothing and gives your opponent more time to overwhelm you or assemble their combo.

Other cards that i'd suggest are bad choices:

• Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver does very little for its cost. milling 3 cards for 3 mana is a very slow rate.

• Fraying Sanity is a massive trap card that a lot of casual mill players fall into. In almost all cases it doesn't speed up the clock for you beating your opponent.

• All of Mind Grind, Increasing Confusion, Mind Funeral, and Pilfered Plans just do faar too little for their mana cost. Memory Sluice is also a really bad return unless you can really reliably trigger it's Conspire ability.

I would suggest looking at cards like Fractured Sanity, Maddening Cacophony, and Tasha's Hideous Laughter *list*. Archive Trap is also a mill-must-have, but may be less-useful if your playgroup isn't using fetchlands. Jace, the Perfected Mind is also serviceable as a planeswalker.

Your deck also really needs some interaction - mill decks are typically too slow to out-race aggro and combo, so you need options to make sure you slow those decks down enough to win the race. Options normally include Drown in the Loch, Fatal Push, and Surgical Extraction

Icbrgr on 0Rack

1 year ago

love the concept.... thie thing that comes to mind for more synergy is Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver or somthing like Ashiok's Erasure... no idea how it could actually be pulled off in a cohesive/competitive way... but otherwise i just love the idea of this.

Made_Compleat on Horrifying Nightmares

2 years ago

Hey! I love this deck. A few suggestions:

Runo Stromkirk  ^Flip is a bit of a nonbo with Umbris, Fear Manifest, as he isn't a horror when he ETBs and doesn't exile when he transforms. Thus, he's won't ETB as a horror to get that sweet sweet value. He also doesn't really synergize with the horror tribal theme. Likewise, the Shapeshifters in the deck like Evil Twin don't synergize, as they're not horrors and don't have changeling. Dauthi Voidwalker runs into the same issue, but it is pretty good so I wouldn't cut it.

A funny card in the deck would be Chainer, Dementia Master. He creates nightmares from your opponent's yard, which then exile more cards with your commander. However, he does come with the drawback of exiling all Nightmares when he dies. He's still totally worth it, though. Angel of Suffering do be silly. She might not be the best, but she's just kinda funny in the deck. The same goes for Bitter Ordeal, which, like all cards from Future Sight, is just kinda nifty. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver ain't a bad card in this context, nor is Ashiok, Sculptor of Fears. Nightmare weaver is better, but both are pretty good in this context. Ashiok, Dream Render is pretty deece as both a Stranglehold and a exile-based mill engine, and she also completes AshiokTron (tm). To compleat the "Not good, just funny" cycle, Chainer's Torment. Is it an absolutely awful card? Yes. Is it hilarious? YES. Phyrexian Rager is pretty nice as well.

I hope that you find these suggestions helpful!

Ouroboros_47 on Everything you own, ends up beating you

2 years ago

Some better discard would be Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek. If you have no restrictions for cards Hymn to Tourach is an option. Liliana of the Veil is a better planeswalker. If you want more ways to steal your opponents' stuff besides Tergrid there are a few fun options Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, Nightveil Specter, or Thief of Sanity.

MrGuizee666 on Viability - mono blue wincons

2 years ago

nbarry223 i thought about splashing black to add cards like Extirpate, Duress and some boardwipes. Also I really like to play with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver and Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank /Bloodchief Ascension + Mindcrank but I wanted something more monocolor. Blue is my fav color, I thought about adding Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer and Mordenkainen however I'm not sure if they're any viable on their on.

wallisface Shark Typhoon is too expensive for me :( I'm thinking about splashing either {B} or {R}

TheOfficialCreator hm Jace, Wielder of Mysteries might be more helpful as a wincon but I'll have to empty my library quite fast. Leveler is an interesting card, could win if it by turn 5 if Jace doesn't get bounced or killed. Too risk but could work. Maybe main deck 4x Pact of Negation?

AcidicArisato on Principle of Control

3 years ago

For stealing your opponents' cards, I'd recommend Xanathar, Guild Kingpin as a back-up Sen. Celestial Dawn is also an auto-include in Sen decks.

If you want stax pieces, Drannith Magistrate, Nevermore, and Wash Away are great ways to stop your opponent from casting their commanders.

Aura of Silence is handy for taking care of pesky enchantments and can slow down their plans. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver and Bojuka Bog are handy pieces of graveyard hate, with the latter being a free-roll in your deck.

Scheming Symmetry is HILARIOUS with Aven Mindcensor and Opposition Agent. Leonin Arbiter also goes nicely with it.

Fatespinner is nasty and can functionally lock opponents out of combat. Rhystic Study is an auto-include in these types of decks.

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In terms of win-cons, you could go with the Mindcrank combo: Mindcrack + Duskmantle Guildmage. Use Ghoulcaller's Bell to start the process without damage. Syr Konrad, the Grim is also good for redundancy.

There's also any number of combos involving Laboratory Maniac, Thassa's Oracle, and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. Use Demonic Consultation on your upkeep and name a card not in your deck to win on your draw step.

If you have a high enough density of creatures, Mortal Combat is a very simple way to win. With enough artifacts, Mechanized Production can be a free-roll. Revel in Riches is a very simple way of creating mana, with the upside of occasionally winning you the game (also pairs well with Spell Swindle.) Felidar Sovereign is also a hilarious.

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If you're looking to make opponents struggle by dismantling their pieces, you should absolutely have pieces like Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Vanishing Verse, and maybe even Generous Gift in addition to boardwipes like Farewell, Tragic Arrogance, Cataclysm, and Wrath of God.

LittleMy on Need help with the finer …

3 years ago

Oona, Malicious Snowball

TLDR: Deck is made for janky combos that involve everyone drawing a lot of cards so I can mill them, or setting up a Doomsday with Mirror of Fate

My budget for any single card is below $100.

Issue: Card draw and cuts

There are some cards in my deck that I feel can be cut but I don't know what to replace them with. The cards, I see at least, are Spellstutter Sprite, Glen Elendra Archmage, Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, and Archmage Ascension.

Although I can absolutely see their place in countering spells to keep a steady board, tutoring cards, and possibly reanimating Nightmares, I think there might be cards that synergize better with Forced Fruition and personal card draw.

There are already cards I've considered, one being Font of Mythos but I already use that in my adapted tstorm823 Zedruu deck, and I'd like to not copy too many spells from one deck to another. And if possible, cutting Howling Mine as well for another personal draw card.

I want to make this deck unique, but at the same time, I don't want to sacrifice too much efficiency for it. So if I'm asking too much of both you, my deck, and myself, please say so, cause that'll rein me in.

Thank you so much!

wallisface on Mill help!

3 years ago

Some thoughts:

• Modern is a very fast format, and on-top of that Mill decks need to be fast to have any hope of winning the game. High mana cards like Consuming Aberration and Haunting Echoes are just too clumsy and slow to be able to perform well, you need to aim for lower cmc cards. Mill should be aiming to have won the game by turn 5.

• in a similar bucket, Duskmantle Guildmage is just too slow for Mill, in that it isn't actually helpful at all outside of one particular janky combo with Mindcrank (and that's an entirely different deck). Similarly, Shadowmage Infiltrator just doesn't cut it in that the soonest it'll be giving you a card is turn 4, and drawing a single card for 3 mana at the end of the game normally isn't worth it. The only good Mill-creatures worth playing are Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab.

• The 2x Crypt Incursion should be mainboard, and you should be looking to run around 22 lands.

• You have a lot of other very slow spells for Mill, all of Isochron Scepter, Trepanation Blade, Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver just don't do enough work, and won't win you the game fast enough. Similarly, Mind Funeral and Fraying Sanity are generally considered "bad" Mill spells - Mind Funeral generally doesn't get enough cards for its mana cost, and Fraying Sanity usually won't mill more than a single Mill spell anyway (and drawing the second copy usually means we lose).

• Maddening Cacophony is a great Mill spell. Other spells you should look to consider alongside it would be Fractured Sanity, Glimpse the Unthinkable, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, and Archive Trap.

• You should really be looking to add a playset of killspells to buy you a turn or two. Fatal Push is the normal go-to. There's also Drown in the Loch which can work very well.

I'm not sure what your budget it, but here is an example of a top-end, well-tuned Mill deck, for comparison.