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Rules Q&A
Mind Funeral
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals cards from the top of his or her library until four land cards are revealed. That player puts all cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard.
wallisface on
Blue Black Mill - Hedron Crabs & Jace
1 month ago
Some thoughts:
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as jdogz32 already mentioned, Brainstorm is not modern legal.
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the only creatures mill ever wants to run are Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab. Stuff like Jace's Phantasm aren’t useful, because you’re not winning by damage, and its just one-less mill effect. Your other creatures are also unuseful, largely due to their excessive mana cost.
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you’re running far too few lands for what you’re trying to do here. Imo you need around 23 lands here.
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you’re running far too many cards as 1-ofs and 2-ofs, which is going to make your deck quite fractured and chaotic. I would suggest trying to ensure that the majority of the cards you run are run as playsets (4-ofs), to help keep your deck focused and consistent.
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i think you need to seriously upgrade your mill package. Stuff like Mind Funeral, Tome Scour and Memory Erosion are all incredibly, incredibly weak, and you’ll find it very hard to mill an opponent out with these options. You want to be aiming for cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, and Fractured Sanity.
wallisface on
Dude, Where's My Deck?
4 months ago
Some suggestions:
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Ruin Crab is better than Jace's Phantasm. The Phantasm itself serves no purpose as the deck us never realistically winning by damage.
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Mind Funeral is a super-weak choice. Better options include Fractured Sanity, Maddening Cacophony, and Tasha's Hideous Laughter.
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18 lands is waaay too low. Imo you’ll need at least 22.
CopperheadCA on
Therapy failed because I kept putting up Walls
4 months ago
Kyyoo, I'd suggest removing any sorceries/enchantments that that focus on milling a player, such as Mind Funeral and Psychic Corrosion and Mind Grind. While your goal is a mill victory, these cards are acting separately from your commander. I'd go hard into being able to tap your creatures to mill, as they are a reusable action as well as.. well defenders. At the very least, the balance should always be tipped towards getting your commander out and tapping creatures, and these effects should be secondary (less of them in your deck).
Duskmantle Guildmage is a bit expensive to mill two cards for 4.
wallisface on
8 Crab Mill
10 months ago
I would suggest ditching Mind Funeral, it’s a pretty garbage return for 3 mana. I would also drop that Fraying Sanity, as any mill spell will almost always be better for finishing the game quickly.
I have a competitive mill deck here if it helps inspire any changes in your own version.
sgtmayham on
11 months ago
I'd also add Glimpse the Unthinkable, Mind Funeral, and Mind Grind. For cheap quick mills.
wallisface on
Mill,mill and mill....
11 months ago
It feels like this list should be far more optimised than it is, considering the $$$ investment. Some thoughts:
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5 mana is incredibly slow in modern, particularly for Mill, which really doesn’t want a game to go that long. Jace, Memory Adept and Nemesis of Reason are just too slow/clumsy to ever be useful.
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Tome Scour and Dream Twist are the equivalent of a burn deck running Shock… that is, it’s just too low value and is a waste of your own resources. I would put Mind Funeral in the same bucket - there’s no point to running any of these cards while Fractured Sanity, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, or Maddening Cacophony exist.
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In a similar vein, you should be running the full playsets of Archive Trap and Glimpse the Unthinkable mainboard, instead of weaker cards like Mind Sculpt.
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You want to be attacking the opponents library, not their life total, so stuff like Jace's Phantasm is pointless. The only creatures ever worth running in mill are Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab.
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Ghost Quarter doesn’t force a search, so isn’t great for forcing Archive Trap. You need Field of Ruin.
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Mill can’t just race and expect to win, you need some interaction to throw your opponents off-kilter and give you the edge. Drown in the Loch, Fatal Push, and Surgical Extraction are all great in the mainboard.
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Your sideboard needs major rework. It currently just feels like cards you couldn’t fit into the mainboard, instead of being able to help shore-up weak matchups.
I have my own competitive mill deck here which may help inspire you.
wallisface on
Blue/Black Mill
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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Cut Your Losses, Mind Funeral and Fraying Sanity are all really bad mill cards, and I'd suggest using better ones. Cut Your Losses just costs too much mana, and by the time you're on turn 6 the game should already be over, and this spell doesn't help actually end the game. Mind Funeral is just too unreliable for its mana cost and generally doesn't get a good-enough return for its cost. Fraying Sanity is a trap card in that the first copy is semi-playable, but drawing the second copy often leads to you losing the game... it plays a LOT weaker than it reads. I'd suggest considering better mill cards like Fractured Sanity, Glimpse the Unthinkable, and Tasha's Hideous Laughter.
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I'd suggest considering Extirpate or the more expensive Surgical Extraction. These cards are pretty important for mill by being able to strip key-pieces from your opponents deck, taking away their ability to effectively combat you, as well as dealing with problem cards that might shuffle back into the opponents library.
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While Fog Bank is a decent defender, it doesn't really help you win the game, as it often only buys you one extra turn, and playing it will usually cost you a turn. I'd suggest instead running mills premier creatures in Ruin Crab and/or Hedron Crab
wallisface on
Modern Mill-Castic
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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the bare minimum you want a mill-card to mill is 8 cards. Any lower and it starts becoming not-worth the resource (card) loss. I’d suggest ditching all of Mind Funeral, Mind Sculpt, and Tome Scour. There are much better options in Maddening Cacophony, Fractured Sanity, and either Archive Trap, Mesmeric Orb or Tasha's Hideous Laughter.
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Mill decks typically only want to run Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab as their creatures. Other creatures often slow them down more than help them. I would also suggest investing in some fetchlands to double the crab-triggers.
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your land count feels really low and i personally think 22 might be a better number.
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Fraying Sanity is a bit of a trap card, in that the first copy is usually only as-good as drawing a single mill spell, and drawing a second copy is usually disastrous - because they do nothing on their own. I could see justifying running a single copy of this card, but never more than that (and really, i’d suggest ditching it).
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if you end up using Archive Trap, then you’ll want to run Mission Briefing instead of Snapcaster. I’d also suggest running Field of Ruin to both force a search, and help your crabs.
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I think you need some more interaction, namely Fatal Push and/or Drown in the Loch to help keep the board safe. A few copies of Crypt Incursion would do wonders also
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