When Ashiok's Erasure enters the battlefield, exile target spell.
Your opponents can't cast spells with the same name as the exiled card.
When Ashiok's Erasure leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to its owner's hand.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Ashiok's Erasure occurrence in decks from the last year
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Ashiok's Erasure Discussion
2 months ago
eEsnowalkerEe, you may have been into something there with Slitherwisp after all! So after a long and grueling climb to Mythic with my rogue build I learned some things. Namely, a pure aggro rogue deck suffers the same problem RDW suffers from. Against decks packing a lot of removal, or even a few handy board wipes at the right time, rebuilding a board position to launch your win from can be hard without a card draw mechanism. It just comes down to fuel. Neither my current pure aggro rogue build nor my Slitherwisp build on Tapped out is updated to current, but I like my Slitherwisp list a lot better and it works generally speaking against a larger variety of decks now. You can find my list here for a Slitherwisp rogue build. I'll just give a quick summation. Because of Escape and Control builds specifically designed to beat rogues, Rogues had to adapt from the pure aggro strat they once were. Less aggro, more control. More control necessitates more card draw to keep answers up. Into the Story was a great card, or seemed like it at the time, but stopping to cast it in an Aggro build felt like losing momentum or perhaps, not gaining enough of it back (after a board wipe). So I tried out Slitherwisp. The one thing Slitherwisp did well was become a lightning rod as you say, and kept removal off those sweet sweet rogues. So I started building around it. What I landed on for control pieces were Ashiok's Erasure to stop Yorion, Skyclave Apparition, and other clench plays, and Cling to Dust to stop Kroxa, Ox, and Phoenix. By pivoting away from a pure aggro build that was being adapted to more and more, I found that I could keep my opponent under constant pressure, and once my opponents see enough of a lock they concede and scoop. I'm still not totally sold on Nightbonder, not for my build anyway as she has no evasion or mill synergy and only reduces the cost of my Ashiok's Erasure, but I get it, she is an awesome card and I liked her for Simic Flash in the previous meta, but I don't know. Might try her as a 2-of in my build if I can figure out how to incorporate her. Oh btw, I don't remember the build entirely from memory, but my updated Slitherwisp Control build uses 3 Erasures and 3 Cling to Dust if you decide to check out my list. I'll get to updating soon I'm sure.
2 months ago
Yeah - ask me - I cant even decide how to thin down my own build. I wouldn't be married to 4 of your big slimy eel (Lochmere Serpent) and I'm not too sure of Into the Roil over Drown in the Loch, but I would most likely cut back on Ashiok's Erasure and Lochmere Serpent to fit in a set of Nighthawk Scavenger.
With all the Covid scares we have had no FNM in South Africa since early in March. We have had a more severe lock-down than most countries and public gatherings are still banned. I normally only play FNM so I have had to restrict my magic to brewing possible decks and an occasional game with immediate family. All of my decks for post Sept 2020 rotation are still untested. I hear your comment on 3-ofs and keep re-looking at the deck to try and find a card that I can do without so that I can increase better cards to 4-ofs. I am also scrolling between about 8 different brews to I suppose that most of them can still improve.
3 months ago
You're fine, VampDemigod. Some people just aren't familiar with how you talk on Tappedout, is all. I was already prepared for a harsh remark, so I didn't get offended by it. I have little experience commenting in forums, so it was a good thing to point out that I should check the forum of what I'm commenting on.
I don't know standard too well, but the only things that haven't been mentioned for enchantment removal are Stern Dismissal into Negate. Since blue has counterspells, which are universally good at dealing with spells, they nerf blue's ability to handle permanents to balance it.
Concerning the Ashiok's Erasure trick, it's rather hard to pull off. You need a card that can bounce an enchantment you control back to your hand at instant speed, and I think Into the Roil is the only card that can do it. Here's how you can permanently exile any spell your opponent casts. First, they cast their spell. You play Ashiok's Erasure on the stack. When it enters, its first ability triggers to exile target spell (the opponent's spell). Before that trigger resolves, bounce Ashiok's Erasure back to your hand using Into the Roil. Then, it's leave the battlefield trigger will go on the stack. It will resolve first, returning nothing because it hasn't exiled anything yet. Then, it's enters the battlefield trigger will resolve, exiling your opponent's spell you targeted at the very beginning. It no longer has any way to return from exile. This type of loophole only works for cards that have two separate paragraphs of text with an "enters" and "leaves" the battlefield ability. This is why Oblivion Ring is different from Banishing Light. Lots of cards can be abused this way, and it's a trick I learned from commander.
3 months ago
3 months ago
Save enough mana so that after you bounce it, you can cast something like Ashiok's Erasure when they try to cast it again. As long as your opponent doesnt have enchantment removal you can keep them from playing theirs again while your Ashiok's Erasure remains in play.
As a side note, you can also bounce this yourself and use it against other spells if you reach a point where you dont care about the original enchantment anymore.
5 months ago
To be clear, Ashiok's Erasure can target permanent spells, that is, when an opponent casts Grizzly Bears you can immediately respond with Ashiok's Erasure, but you wouldn't be able to do it later, much like when you're allowed to cast Essence Scatter.
5 months ago
can Ashiok's Erasure target permanants?