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Mirror of Fate
, Sacrifice Mirror of Fate: Choose up to seven face-up exiled cards you own. Exile all the cards from your library, then put the chosen cards on top of your library.
Mirror of Fate Discussion
1 week ago
Interesting idea! Some things to consider:
You might also like these cards: Bag of Holding , Dimir Machinations (transmutes for necropotence), Tectonic Reformation , Street Wraith , Treasonous Ogre , Archfiend of Ifnir , Bone Miser , Alhammarret's Archive , Brainspoil (transmutes for alham's archive), Illusionist's Bracers , Mindmoil , Bolas's Citadel , Skirge Familiar , Shred Memory (for transmuting, especially for Shadow of the Grave! digging for Shadow seems paramount), archfiend of spite, curse of fool's wisdom, Gamble , Words of Waste , Geth's Grimoire , Waste Not , Burning Inquiry , Dark Deal , Reforge the Soul , Khorvath's Fury , Incendiary Command , Runehorn Hellkite , Memory Jar , Uba Mask , Bedlam Reveler .
I'm sure you can make room for some of these by removing some of those extra Muck Drubbs and Tainted Pacts :P
1 week ago
You might consider Demonic Consultation naming Mirror of Fate as a second Doomsday (assuming you'll run doomsday again). Costs more mana but no life payment. Mirror of Fate is criminally underplayed in general if you ask me!
1 month ago
@Yesterday: Huh. Well, another idea for a cut I guess; & yes, I did reconsider Mirror of Fate & it's back onto the deck. I suppose Myr Welder does deserve a cut, huh... Plotting to set a Doomsday package; w/ the Obligitory Laboratory Maniac , but I'll decide myself on this; sometimes Just Decking out is a better risk than... well, you know. I'd add Door to Nothingness , but that's maybe too much. Regardless, The Myr gets kicked.
1 month ago
What are composite prinnies?
My folders aren't very organised. [Not My Commander] is my only folder where I include other people's decks, and literally only just started doing that a few days ago. Yours is the second one I've added, so I don't really have any context for it yet. Rest assured I like the idea of your deck a lot.
Yeah, no love lost for the Worldgorger Dragon here either. It needs more than decent support in the form of reanimation and countermagic, and if your deck isn't all about that then it's not necessarily a great fit. I just mentioned it because it's an interesting card that cares about exiled stuff. I won't be offended in the least if you don't adopt a suggestion of mine, in case you're concerned about that. It's your deck, dude. I'm just here to help.
Lion's Eye Diamond is crazy expensive, money-wise. For that reason, I personally don't think it's ever worth running unless you're building at least a somewhat competitive deck, unless you just happen to have one handy. On the other hand, if you do only play casually with friends then they probably won't mind if you run a tournament-illegal version of Yawgmoth's Will – there are gold-bordered signed collector's versions available for significantly less than the regular cost (with Yawgmoth's Will on magiccardmarket ATM, it's €7.00 as opposed to the official card that's €23.95). They don't have a standard MtG back on them though, so you'll need to be using sleeves to use them.
So, Doomsday . If you don't like it, then don't run it. But as I understand it, a lot of those packages run 3-4 draw spells, Laboratory Maniac , and maybe some countermagic support. Considering this is what's in your deck ATM, I'll run with that. It's another all-in strategy and once again; if your Lab Maniac gets countered or killed before you draw the card, it pretty much means that you lose. I know a lot of people run Gitaxian Probe and other super-cheap draw spells in this package, the idea being to cast them all in the one turn and then win. If you want to stick with the Flashback theme, there's Faithless Looting and Scour All Possibilities and Echo of Eons which you already run, and then there's Deep Analysis and Think Twice . None of these is particularly expensive money-wise. Also, I know this is exactly the opposite of what you're looking for, but if Doomsday is to be a legit wincon for this deck then you might want to reconsider cutting Mirror of Fate . It's rarely an amazing card, but in this deck if things are going well, basically stands to serve as a second Doomsday, which is exactly what every Doomsday deck wants.
As for the landbase, how exactly did you want to revise it? There are a lot of interesting things to be done with lands, but I've usually just forgone those when it comes to 4+ colour mana bases (particularly if budget means running slow fetch lands like Bad River as opposed to Polluted Delta ). Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is good in any deck that uses black. I know you're not running any other Slivers, but Path of Ancestry is still a decent land in 5-colour decks that aren't high-end competitive - just read it as a Command Tower that enters tapped, which is still pretty great in non-competitive EDH. If you are okay with a couple of a taplands, Grand Coliseum is also great. On the other end, Tarnished Citadel is good for mana right now if you need it.
Now, for some suggestions on Flashback and other cards to cut.
I think you have just a couple too many recursion effects for instant and sorcery spells. Cards like Pull from the Deep are pretty decent because they get you two-for-one, as in you spend one card to gain access to two.
Conversely, something like Recoup probably isn't so good - it only gives you access to one card when you cast it, and you need to have the mana available to cast it that same turn. It's not an awful card, it has Flashback which both gives it more utility than for which I'm giving it credit and also fits this deck's theme. But you have an above-average amount of recursion spells and if you are actively looking for something to cut, this'd be something I'd recommend.
I think Sins of the Past is a decent card, but not great unless you have a number of really great bombs in your deck. If you don't have a fair number of high-cost, high-impact spells to target with it, it becomes an expensive 1-for-1. Similarly, Mystic Retrieval can be good when things are going your way and it sort of fits the theme, but in the early- to mid-game it can really suck to be left with only this card in your hand. When making cuts, you'll generally want to cut the cards that, at some points of the game, do straight-up nothing. Unfortunately, Mystic Retrieval kinda fits the bill here.
All Suns' Dawn is a great recursion spell, but less good when you lean away from a few colours. Considering you already have a number of other great spells in your deck, I don't know about this one in this scenario. I think basically, you'll want a few low-end and a few high-end recursion spells.
Some cards I would cut when push comes to shove —
1 month ago
"When you sac Mirror of Fate , which is part of the activation cost, it goes to the grave. You can then hold up priority and use Faerie Macabre , discard her (which is also a cost) to remove her and the Mirror from the grave and put the Mirror and faerie on top of your new library."
The following interaction you just described is illegal according to rule 601.2. Whenever you cast a spell or activate an ability if that spell or ability would target an object, the object(s) you intend to target must be a legal target before costs are paid. This is because all spells and abilities and their corresponding targets are always announced before costs are calculated and paid for.
Given the scenario you just described you would be able to exile the mirror with Faerie Macabre 's activated ability, however; you would be unable to exile the Faerie Macabre to itself. Do note this only happens if a spell or ability targets. The exiled cards you choose to put on top of your library with Mirror of Fate don't have to be legal choices before it's ability is activated - they just have to be legal upon the moment it resolves which means you can put the Mirror in your new library if you are able to exile it before it's ability resolves. If Faerie Macabre instead read as: "Discard Faerie Macabre: Choose up to two cards in graveyards. Exile those cards." then the scenario you listed would be able to work as you described.
That said, there are still ways to cycle Mirror of Fate without the Faerie Macabre . These cards with the Mirror will still generate the same effect: Tormod's Crypt , Nihil Spellbomb , Sentinel Totem , Purify the Grave , Remorseful Cleric . If you want a repeatable exile effect that doesn't need to be exiled to work I'd recommend cards like: Withered Wretch , Grim Lavamancer , Sarcatog , Scrabbling Claws , Relic of Progenitus - These cards can stay on the battlefield while reliably being able to exile your Mirror at instant speed.
I thought this interaction was really cool, which is why I went out of my way to find alternative card options in case I ever decide to run something like this in my own deck. +1 for the potential card synergy and creativity.
2 months ago
@bushido_man96: Don't get me wrong, the card kicks butt in a pinch. Although losing one life may not be so bad, basically having an Exiling Engine for spells means so few cards exist for this. But we've a problem w/ this as well; Riftsweeper is the only card in Simic's colors to use Exile Manipulation. Pull from Eternity is , Torrent Elemental wouldn't work as it only affects itself, Mirror of Fate is even worse as it's a worse Doomsday for 7 Exiled cards; but the rest of the library dies beyond death; Runic Repetition only works on Flashback spells, & Misthollow Griffin ? Not even what this deck wants. In such a case, this deck would need Void Maw ; but this isn't Sultai ; this is Simic.
Sorry for not limiting my post to 180 Unicode characters, but I was trying to do a supplemental explanation about this whole thing. Basically, all we have is Riftsweeper , but there are not enough stuff that can utilize exile retrieval as a target for that damned Elf Shaman. UNLESS... Unless I cut Rashmi for her, & find more effects that Exile themselves after use. THEN we can start cutting the quarks, & leptons; the smallest form of matter in our ethereal everything.
Apology No. 2 for going even further than before. Yeah, "Tell Obi-Wan: "I failed."" -Yoda after losing a fight with Darth Sidious
I'll contemplate Force of Will for now, until then, though, you literally made me want to do a deck focusing on Exile Retrieval; W/O Atraxa in the first place. Yep an actual Partners Commander Deck; but which two to use, I ponder...
2 months ago
pretty cool list! I think you should play Mirror of Fate to win with jace, with just that and jace you can win on the spot
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7 months ago
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