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Umbris, Fear Manifest
Legendary Creature — Nightmare Horror
This gets +1/+1 for each card your opponents own in exile.
Whenever this or another Nightmare or Horror enters the battlefield under your control, target opponent exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a land card.
Unlife on BBEG Deck Ideas
1 year ago
saluma I like Tiamat, it is 100% a DnD BBEG and dragons are big and nasty.
KBK7101 I like The Tarrasque, but it does feel kinda meh, similar to Ghalta who's very strong, but just doesn't feel as 'world-ending'. I'd forgotten the gods though, maybe some sort of aristocrats-animator thing. The captain is fun, but he has the more 'hit and run' thing going for him as a pirate.
DreadKhan I've played with Kresh the Bloodbraided before, he can be fun but he can also feel a bit clunky which was why I;d dropped him previously. Sauron, the Dark Lord has that traditional world ending feel, and his ward cost means he dodges most removal. I'd forgotten goad was a thing, it brings me back to Queen Marchesa, a more political goaded build to manipulate other decks. In terms of the decks competing against one another, I think they're fairly balanced at the moment, but they're also still being tuned and adjusted.
legendofa Well, gonna start with a massive thank you first, that's a wicked great breakdown. With this massive list, maybe I'll add a second in command deck along with the BBEG one....
I'm not worried about it being directly connected to the forgotten realms, just kinda having a DnD class/BBEG 'vibe' for lack of a better word (I mean, my paladin deck design is knight tribal helmed by Syr Cadian, Knight Owl) Among that massive list, Konda, Lord of Eiganjo, Progenitus, Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, Umbris, Fear Manifest, Momir Vig, Simic Visionary, and Malfegor all stand out. Your dimir list also reminded me of Runo Stromkirk Flip as a big monster summoner.
TypicalTimmy Dihada is an interesting choice, maybe a deck full of brainwashed missing adventurers. A lot of these suggestions keep leading me back to mardu, so I may take a deeper dive there.
Either way, this has been massively helpful. Course, now I have the opposite problem, so many choices to narrow down.
legendofa on BBEG Deck Ideas
1 year ago
For my breakdown here, I'm focusing on characters who are villains in their story arc and characters who don't have much specific backstory. Pretty much any legendary creature can be flavored as a villain in front of the right deck. I'm also not focusing on the Forgotten Realms sets, I'm broadening the net.
What's available:
: Eldrazi or artifacts. Most of the artifacts are either hero-aligned or not an independent threat, like Graaz, Unstoppable Juggernaut. If you want a challenge, Omarthis, Ghostfire Initiate, but I wouldn't, just for lack of depth.
: Villains are oddly centered on Old Kamigawa. Konda, Lord of Eiganjo is a near-immortal emperor and master duelist. Hokori, Dust Drinker is destroying resources and the land. And, of course, there's the apocalyptic, unrelenting evil that is Hazduhr the Abbot.
: Heidar, Rimewind Master is an elementalist fanatic. The manipulations of Orvar, the All-Form or Kami of the Crescent Moon could cause problems, as could a big sea creature like Tromokratis or Charix, the Raging Isle.
: Pretty much everyone. It's easier to count the people who aren't outright villains.
: Relatively few actual villains, but a bunch of manipulators, dragons, and angry people that could fill the role.
: A bunch of wild animals and nature types. No scheming villains, but a good selection of rampaging monsters. Meng Huo, Barbarian King would be a unique choice (if you're willing to.proxy or drop $150+).
: Polukranos Reborn Flip is the most (only?) villainous character in these colors.
: Lots of options, from the behind-the-scenes manipulation of Lazav, Dimir Mastermind to the illithid Captain N'ghathrod, Gisa and Geralf's necromancer army, whatever Umbris, Fear Manifest is, and a lot more.
: A few options, but lots of depth in them. Insane biologist Momir Vig, Simic Visionary and his magnum opus Experiment Kraj, nature's avenger Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, or maybe Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait is flooding the area.
: A very deep and wide pool for villains. Vampires, demons, dragons, demon dragons, warlords, torturers...
: Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager joins the ranks of the big scary monsters. A more calculating BBEG would probably be one of the death lords like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord. Vhati il-Dal or Old Rutstein or probably more storyline villains than BBEG material.
: A very shallow pool. Storvald, Frost Giant Jarl, Rubinia Soulsinger, and maybe Falco Spara, Pactweaver or Katilda and Lier (mostly because of Lier) are the best options for an Archenemy villain. I'd throw Kros, Defense Contractor in, but goading is kind of limited when you're the Archenemy.
: This color set will probably be either a cold, distant, merciless villain or a manipulative puppet master. Raffine, Scheming Seer and Oloro, Ageless Ascetic fall into the first category, and Sen Triplets and The Ever-Changing 'Dane in the second. Varina, Lich Queen is another option for a zombie army.
: Big, angry, and violent, with some good dragons. Xira, the Golden Sting and Vazi, Keen Negotiator break out of this mold, but they strike me as more lieutenant-types, not arc villains by themselves.
: Not much; these tend to be either heroic or big smashy monsters. Uril, the Miststalker could work.
: Queen Marchesa is a classic, as you mentioned, and Edgar Markov is right there, too. Actually, this color set has some good depth and variety for an Archenemy. Some are more overtly villainous, and some are just very martial. My top picks would be Edgar, Licia, Sanguine Tribune, or Tariel, Reckoner of Souls.
: Mostly either weird esotericism or "nature's avenger" types. I don't think any of these are outright villainous in-story, but most of them have loose or vague stories. With the right deck, this could be a unique and interesting villain. Riku of Two Reflections is my top pick.
Four-color sets in general: Any of them would work, except for a couple of the .
: Use this color set if you want a truly apocalyptic feel. saluma mentioned Tiamat, which is a very good choice, and finding a way to get through Progenitus or O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami is a story of epic scale.
mathemagic314 on
1 year ago
Oh I know Darsul. Same with Leyline of the Void and Dauthi Voidwalker, this deck is actually pretty bad at taking advantage of his ability, but the point is his ability CAN exile things, and that's what I like about it. I wish Umbris, Fear Manifest could be the commander, but I really wanted to incorporate white.
UltimateRoxas40 on Horrors and Nightmares
1 year ago
Looks fun! I've got a similar Dimir Horror/Mill deck, though mine is helmed by Captain N'ghathrod. I'm thinking about how to include Umbris, Fear Manifest in my own deck currently, since he has some fun effects and great flavor.
And you can actually substitute Everflowing Chalice in place of Mana Crypt for that infinite colorless mana combo, which you've already got in your deck. Just tap Sol Ring for , cast the Chalice for , then bounce the Ring, then cast it for , bounce the Chalice, etc, netting you colorless mana each time. No Mana Crypt required haha.
And he is a little pricey, but Toxrill, the Corrosive is a great finisher in these kinds of decks, and has a powerful synergy with Sludge Monster. With both on the field, you can turn all your opponent's non-Horror creatures into 2/2 (effectively 1/1's after the Slime counter's -1/-1 effect happens). You can effectively soft-lock your opponent's board, as very few of their creatures will stick around long enough to be impactful.
Made_Compleat on Tilting at WindMILLS - Zellix mill EDH
1 year ago
Perchance you would be interested in Umbris, Fear Manifest? It's a powerful mill engine that gets you value off of the horrors your commander makes.
Love the deck!
Made_Compleat on Horrifying Nightmares
1 year ago
Hey! I love this deck. A few suggestions:
Runo Stromkirk Flip is a bit of a nonbo with Umbris, Fear Manifest, as he isn't a horror when he ETBs and doesn't exile when he transforms. Thus, he's won't ETB as a horror to get that sweet sweet value. He also doesn't really synergize with the horror tribal theme. Likewise, the Shapeshifters in the deck like Evil Twin don't synergize, as they're not horrors and don't have changeling. Dauthi Voidwalker runs into the same issue, but it is pretty good so I wouldn't cut it.
A funny card in the deck would be Chainer, Dementia Master. He creates nightmares from your opponent's yard, which then exile more cards with your commander. However, he does come with the drawback of exiling all Nightmares when he dies. He's still totally worth it, though. Angel of Suffering do be silly. She might not be the best, but she's just kinda funny in the deck. The same goes for Bitter Ordeal, which, like all cards from Future Sight, is just kinda nifty. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver ain't a bad card in this context, nor is Ashiok, Sculptor of Fears. Nightmare weaver is better, but both are pretty good in this context. Ashiok, Dream Render is pretty deece as both a Stranglehold and a exile-based mill engine, and she also completes AshiokTron (tm). To compleat the "Not good, just funny" cycle, Chainer's Torment. Is it an absolutely awful card? Yes. Is it hilarious? YES. Phyrexian Rager is pretty nice as well.
I hope that you find these suggestions helpful!
shadow63 on What tribes would you like …
2 years ago
Theast few years wotc has combined tribes that lacked a lot of support like cats and dogs with Rin and Seri, Inseparable and nightmare and horror with Umbris, Fear Manifest
I would like to see bird and griffin or griffin and archon mixed also insect and spider just makes sense logically I know they're arachnids but theres so many cards that stretch what an insect should be already. That I don't think itd be too much of a stretch