Chainer, Dementia Master

Chainer, Dementia Master

Legendary Creature — Human Minion

Nightmare creatures get +1/+1.

, Pay 3 life: Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is black and is a Nightmare in addition to its other creature types.

When Chainer, Dementia Master leaves the battlefield, exile all Nightmares.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Chainer, Dementia Master Discussion

DarkHero on It's... Just a Bad Dream...

1 month ago

A flavor add, that could actually be detrimental depending on how you want to look at it is Chainer, Dementia Master

enpc on The Pragmatist's Pet

1 month ago

For a very long time, I ran Damia, Sage of Stone as my primary commander and even resisted switching to Tasigur, the Golden Fang . With the release of Thrasios, Triton Hero and Tymna the Weaver there was enough incentive to change over, but it was still a hard choice.

As for the examples you've given though, I still feel like there's a bit of a disconnect between your existing commanders and the new example commanders. Sure, Zacama, Primal Calamity is naya an interacts with lands, but it's still a very different deck than Hazezon Tamar .

Just like how using Chainer, Dementia Master is about being able to abuse reanimation (which may or may not be abusing discard ETB effects). So while the deck may have a heavy discard theme (which on quick inspection looks like it does) however a lot of the card choices in the deck would still look different with someone like Tegrid, God of Fright leading it.

I also think that there are two distinct questions here:

1) When do players feel it's the right time to replace cards in the 99, and;

2) When do players feel it's the right time to replace their commander

I feel like question 2 is a lot more difficult of a question, as geenrall you're not just swapping a pet card in/out - you're effectively restructuring the deck at this point (even if you are keeping the theme the same).

Azeworai on The Pragmatist's Pet

1 month ago

As more cards are added to the game of Magic, each bearing the modern design philosophy that urge them to be relevant in near to all formats, there comes the time for a player to edit their decks.

I shall confess that I primarily dwell in the realm of Commander, but this is an argument that can be made for all methods of casting spellls. (Mostly Commander)

Within each set is a card that is fated to find a home in a specific archetype, yet this entails that another piece of the machine is removed. I have a mono-black discard deck built around Chainer , but they have since printed Tinybones , Tergrid  Flip, and Tourach . Each of these are more potent in the command zone, but Chainer is closer to my twisted heart and nocent at shackling my foes.

I have a Naya-lands list around Hazezon Tamar , but they have put forth into the world, Zacama and Obuun , but Hazezon offers nostalgia and tokens.

This especially pertains to the list below the commander, such as Murderous Rider over Hero's Downfall , Fierce Guardianship over Counterspell , Usher of the Fallen over Savannah Lions , and the list goes on for eternity. I enjoy adding asinine old artifacts to lists (see: Temporal Aperture and Phyrexian Portal ), yet felt as if I had no choice but to cut Moonring Mirror for Sevylun .

My query of this thread is when do players feel obliged to cut cards from lists despite any strong emotions towards maintaining their inclusion? When can the poignant piece of cardboard at last meet anguish? When does power eclipse pet?

Note: This is not a question of whether it is correct or not to snuff the asinine spell. Optimization is a separate topic than what is meant to be discussed here.

Azeworai on Let the Nightmare Go On..

1 month ago

Profet93 - This deck has felt inefficient for some months now. 'Twas time for an update.

As for Thought Vessel , that is an easy upgrade over existing mana rocks. If I acquire one, so shall Chainer .

XaiLo on Kokusho, the Evening Star

2 months ago

Maybe Culling the Weak can be your replacement for Burnt Offering.

I like Bolas's Citadel because it combos with Sensei's Divining Top or Necropotence to win. A lot of people run Aetherflux with that combo but I cut Aetherflux and I have never not wok with just the Citadel and Top or Necropotence.

Chainer, Dementia Master is a fun one. He combos with K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth and any sac outlet to go (essentially) infinite with Kokusho and truly infinite with Gary.

Chainer and K'rrik are usually my targets for Buried Alive (along with Viscera Seer ) or Entomb or I use Final Parting to get one of them to graveyard and Reanimate to my hand.

Nim Deathmantle pairs well with Kokusho. Or it can just win the game with Su-Chi and Blasting Station .

Razaketh, the Foul-Blooded is a card I haven't yet added but intend to.

dritchie on No time to rest – Drana, Reanimator (Primer)

4 months ago

I see a lot of things that dont synergise very well or cost far too much mana, i would remove Meteor Golem for Artisan of Kozilek i know its slightly more mana but has more versatility and more power. Nirkana Revenant id say is a must because she gives you more mana and can one hit someone, Reanimate , Rise of the Dark Realms , Sepulchral Primordial , Puppeteer Clique , Geth, Lord of the Vault , Chainer, Dementia Master

Malakir Rebirth  Flip has no real value in this deck id remove this for Sudden Spoiling or Tragic Slip or Entomb . you need some lower mana tutors at the like Diabolic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Exsanguinate would be good to help balance the life. board wipes like Necromantic Selection , Decree of Pain and Black Sun's Zenith . Nim Deathmantle . things like Grave Pact woundn't be a bad idea to add. Mortuary Mire and Crypt of Agadeem

sorry i feel like ive just ripped apart the deck

Winnieblues on "Sleep Paralysis Demons" - Chainer - EDH PRIMER

6 months ago

It doesn't look like there's tooooo much from Kaldheim that's got much synergy with Chainer, Dementia Master

-Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip looks pretty insane with all the edict effects i'm running. I'll probably swap Sangromancer out for her. Sangromancer is ok, but I have plenty of other life gain effects that are more consistent.

-Blood on the Snow looks ok, but it's pretty expensive, and maxes out at 6CMC for the reanimation aspect.

-Rise of the Dread Marn looks pretty cool if your meta has a lot of creature-heavy decks and board wipes, but it's quite situational.

-The new art on Village Rites is tempting me to find it a slot. A cheap sacrifice effect + car draw spell is very nice. The only issue I have with it is that it's basically useless in the early game, which is usually when you want to be casting your cheaper card draw spells.

Azeworai on Buh!

6 months ago

Ah, discard. A field I know well.

I come bearing suggestions.

There are many fantastic discard engines that many do not know exist. Anvil of Bogardan is a favourite of mi... Wait, you have that one.

Well, Delirium Skeins is... Darn that Maybeboard.

I see you to be one of those players who digs deep, which is lovely. From the most vast of options broods the most fruitful of strategies. I do have my own discard list, built under Chainer, Dementia Master , which was my very first deck.

Unfortunately, you have all of my discard recommendations accommodated somewhere in this list, thus I must proffer my mono-Black choices. These are a little expensive, but they are what I have to offer.

Given the fact that you are both stealing permanents and forcing discard, I believe this to mean that you do not mind rude cards. Hence, Contamination . You have probably heard of this, but here it is again.

Hellfire is one of my favourite cards of all time, acting as a Cyclonic Rift that hurts your both life total and your wallet. I have died multiple times whilst casting this spell, but the artwork is great.

I feel as if a Dark Ritual to power out Tergrid  Flip would be quite detrimental to your opponents. It enacts your engine early whilst being quite the powerful spell by itself.

Snuff Out surprises a fair number of people, for being without mana typically entails being without interaction.

A Lake of the Dead is one of the very best cards in my Chainer list, as it brings a metric ton of mana to the table. It may cost a swamp each activation, but it is well worth the toll.

The most obscure card I run in my discard deck is Cao Cao, Lord of Wei . He is terrible, slow, and certainly exists.

Care to double the price of your deck? Well, Chains of Mephistopholes has you covered. It denies card draw like a Hullbreacher and offers fuel for the commander  Flip. People do not typically mind proxies, if you would dare venture that route.

TLDR: I commend you for your card-digging adventures, for it takes patience to read all of the possible options for a commander deck, and I did my best in terms of suggestions.

Best of luck, and farewell.

Here is my own list, if you care: Let the Nightmare Go On..

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