Description

Iname, Death Aspect is basically the second-in-command general of this deck. Obviously, after you get him in play you cast Living Death to bring everything back to life. I've tried to make this as unlike a typical Karador deck as possible and instead aimed for tribal spirits combo. It's a little awkward and slow to be sure, but at least it seems to be a unique take on Karador.

Another really fun combo is to get Cloudstone Curio out and then every time you cast a creature from your graveyard return Karador, Ghost Chieftain to your hand and replay him, hopefully for just and you can cast another creature from your graveyard. Rinse and repeat. The deck is light on removal because there's a lot of consistently playable permanent/creature-based removal such as Karlov of the Ghost Council and Aura Shards.

A really fun combo is Amulet of Vigor + Perilous Forays + Bloodghast to get every land with a basic land type out of the deck with just one mana to start it off. I took the Amulet out for now since it doesn't do much else. I recently realized another combo with Amulet of Vigor: if Loam Dweller is in play along with Cloudstone Curio then with Gaea's Cradle, Serra's Sanctum, or Cabal Coffers out, every time you cast a spirit, you can put a land into play untapped because of the Amulet, which returns another land to your hand, and if it is any of the 3 aforementioned lands, you keep generating tons of mana.

Another cool combo is Celestial Kirin + Avacyn, Angel of Hope for asymmetrical board-wiping goodness. I've always had a firm belief that anytime you board-wipe in EDH it should be done in such a way that you are able to take advantage of it or recover faster. Otherwise, you are just dragging the game out pointlessly to prevent other people who played a better game from winning. I took this combo out recently because they each don't do significant work without each other, and since I don't have cards like Tooth and Nail or Defense of the Heart in this deck, it's not very consistent.

The God Combo:

The cards labelled under this category combine to let you draw infinite cards, have infinite creatures die, gain infinite life, play Karador infinitely, and just do everything infinitely. With the Ghost Generators of Abzan Ascendancy, Field of Souls, and Teysa, Orzhov Scion out you can make infinite spirit tokens, exile infinite creatures, and have infinite dudes to sac to Devouring Greed. Completing all of this combo is generally superfluous but it's mostly just fun to have such an incredibly high level of synergy where so many pieces work together in an incredibly complicated way.

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Ghosthunter39 says... #1

Love the deck! Definitely borrowing some of the ideas for my deck. +1

January 31, 2016 1:33 a.m.

thanks a lot ghosthunter! haha appropriate name for someone playing this deck lol

January 31, 2016 11 a.m.

priomh says... #3

October 22, 2016 3:46 p.m.

Ha no, it's not that kind of deck. Grave Pact handles most creatures, Ayli can handle most other problems if I really need to but the idea of this deck is to assemble various complicated combos to outright win, despite what everyone else has.

Also, those definitely aren't the kind of spirits this deck is looking for because they're too slow and don't do relevant things. This deck never needs to attack and doesn't care about bolster or increased power. The wincons are exclusively non-combat intentionally.

October 22, 2016 5:13 p.m.

Also if you think cards should be added to a deck, suggest what should be cut. You'll find this deck is incredibly tight, there's nothing to cut that your suggestions would be better than.

October 22, 2016 5:16 p.m.

priomh says... #6

I would count Devouring Greed as the only wincon and it only kills a single person. Living Death and Celestial Kirin both have answers.
Bloodghast (since you took out Amulet of Vigor), Cloudstone Curio, Deathrender, Leyline of Sanctity, and Horobi, Death's Wail were some of the slow cards I was looking at. Argothian Enchantress as well, most of your enchantments (of only 19) are of a higher CMC so I wouldn't consider it abusable enough. I think spirits synergize with tokens more than they do with enchantments. There's a lot of spirit token effects so I'd rather run Mentor of the Meek and cut some of the enchantment fat. Also Abzan Ascendancy, Field of Souls, Angelic Chorus seem slow unless you finish some combos with them that you're missing. I can see how you would want Angelic Chorus for the life gain to use Ayli and Karlov but its too expensive without being able to combo with Sanguine Bond. I'd normally play Blind Obedience.

You have the infinite mana setup from Nether Traitor but no outlets for it.
Nether Traitor + Phyrexian Altar + Abzan Ascendancy allows you to throw in Debt to the Deathless for infinite damage, or Altar of Dementia for infinite mill. Keeping Angelic Chorus will let you gain infinite life and would allow Sanguine Bond to do infinite damage as well.
You also have Leyline of the Void so Helm of Obedience is an option as well.

For my previous suggestions:
Hallowed Spiritkeeper will get you bulk tokens faster for Aura Shards, Grave Pact, Earthcraft, and Teysa.
Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit was suggested as a cheap spirit to trigger your others but it also combos with Living Death and will trigger for the number of creatures coming into play.
Twilight Drover also has a large number of combos that could fit in the deck and is still a spirit. Like Twilight Drover + Phyrexian Altar + Parallel Lives.

October 22, 2016 8:26 p.m.

Devouring Greed is easily reusable with Eternal Witness and I'm not sure what you mean by Living Death and Celestial Kirin have answers. Do you mean they aren't efficient wincons? Because I'd agree, they aren't remotely intended to be. Bloodghast is an incredible card that can loop a few times with Nether Traitor and a land drop. It generates lots of spirits with the spirit generator enchantments and Teysa. I find the other cards you pointed out for removal as amusing choices as they are some of the most integral cards in the deck. Cloudstone Curio is without a doubt the MVP of this deck as it lets me bounce karador to my hand and then recast him for 3 mana over and over to keep casting dudes. Deathrender lets me feed guys into sac outlets while I dump fatty after fatty into play and makes a loop with Phyrexian Reclamation, which I may not have posted in the latest update. Leyline of Sanctity may be the most laughable suggestion for removal. I don't know how it can be determined to be too slow, or too fast for that matter, it protects me from graveyard hate like Bojuka Bog and Angel of Finality which is paramount in any Karador deck. The enchantress sub-theme is more of a byproduct of playing a lot of synergistic enchantments that I like and then adding Argothian for some fuel. Also, I can make an enchantment loop again with Eidolon of Blossoms and a 1 or 2 drop enchantment or creature and Cloudstone Curio. There is maybe a lot more going on in this deck than readily meets the eye.

Mentor of the meek isn't remotely near the level of card I want for this deck and it's fine on card draw anyways. I like playing Blind Obedience too, but I just don't have the room in this deck. The lifegain is useful just for the long game and to get Ayli and Karlov on line. Your other cards for wincons are very well established in EDH and I recognize their potency but I'm not a fan of building for infinite combos or abusing ones that exist in my decks. Sometimes infinite loops are unavoidable just from having a confluence of good cards but I prefer to design decks that do something new and different, or at least new to me and flavorful. This deck is supposed to be very spirit and kamigawa flavored and I think it succeeds at both.

October 23, 2016 12:07 a.m.

priomh says... #8

Ah, sorry, just a meta call. I'm used to games ending on turn 4 where there's not enough time or need to use graveyard protection because they can outright win beforehand and don't even need to cast Karador. I didn't know if you were against infinite combos, something like Eidolon can draw cards when you bounce it, but something like Mentor of the Meek will draw your entire deck with Nether Traitor. If that isn't your deal, I can understand your choices.

October 23, 2016 12:19 p.m.

Yeah I intentionally don't play competitive and avoid playing with people who don't play in the spirit of the format: casual and social. People who try to win that fast corrupt the meta and make EDH no fun to play so I don't build with them in mind and don't play with them. I've played all over the USA and found relatively few of them. To be honest, I don't understand why they exist in the first place as there are a number of well-established competitive formats where such a play style makes sense.

October 23, 2016 1:28 p.m.

EnividWodahs says... #10

How did you add the background for the deck? I am curious to learn how.

January 30, 2017 5:39 a.m.

With the same HTML code I use on all my decks. Why are you commenting on this deck in particular?

January 30, 2017 8:37 a.m.

maybe a Birthing Pod, replacing a Field of Souls or Primordial Sage? i really like the pod in this deck, and it has excellent synergy with karador in general.

also, would you share what code you used for the background? a few of us are curious :)

March 13, 2017 5:47 p.m.

I've thought about Birthing Pod frequently but I have a Survival of the Fittest that's just way better (it's not in the deck currently only because it's overseas getting altered), and the two cards you mentioned are integral parts of the deck's strategy to cantrip and make infinite dudes.

I'm aware that many people are curious about how to make their decks look like this so I posted a tutorial in my profile description. Feel free to go check it out and thanks for the upvote and comment!

March 13, 2017 6:07 p.m.

@EternalBrewmaster maybe i should have read the description before suggesting things to take out lol...yes, i agree that Survival of the Fittest is much better.

good luck!

March 13, 2017 8:48 p.m.

Np! I appreciate the discussion anyways. And especially since there's the enchantress sub-theme in this deck I want to keep the artifacts low and stick to enchantments.

March 13, 2017 8:58 p.m.

NyxDragon says... #16

I love the idea that it is just for casual and not competitive. I play the same way. For fun. I also love your deck. However, I cant tell what is in the deck and what isnt. There is over 100 cards listed here. Can you tell me what is exactly in the deck and what isnt?

March 30, 2017 6:45 p.m.

Thanks for the nice comment! If you look at the right side of the screen in the deck stats section you'll see that there are 100 cards exactly in the deck. The only cards not in the deck are the Maybeboard cards. The reason it appears there are more than 100 cards otherwise is because many cards are in multiple categories because they are multipurpose.

March 30, 2017 6:55 p.m.

Quicksilver says... #18

+1 for abzan spirit tribal.

April 1, 2017 3:45 p.m.

Birthing Pod should totally find a place in this list. It does double duty of sacrificing creatures into your graveyard, and tutoring for better creatures. Should be in almost every green EDH deck ever, but even more so in a deck that also manipulates the graveyard.

Buried Alive is another tutor of sorts that synergizes with your strategy. Pulls creatures into your graveyard to prep for a Living Death, or just to play with Karador.

With all those ways to generate 1/1 Spirits, Skullclamp might be worth including as another sac outlet/card draw card. Always be on the lookout for multipurpose cards in EDH.

Swords to Plowshares should be included as premium spot removal with the ability to interrupt infinite combos for just a .

Demonic Tutor allows you to grab a key combo piece like Cloudstone Curio or Teysa, Orzhov Scion, or pull an answer like a boardwipe.

April 21, 2017 8:05 p.m.

I appreciate you taking the time to share some advice. I'm very familiar with all of those cards and I hope you're able to recognize that I'm an experienced deck builder. I'm not looking for design changes really as this deck is what I want it to be. It has its own ways of doing all the things you suggested. Maybe read my personal page to understand where I'm coming from as a designer and player myself.

April 21, 2017 8:28 p.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 3.55
Tokens 1/1 Spirit, Experience
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Revision 8 (7 months ago)

-1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope main
-1 Plagued Rusalka main
+1 Aura Shards main
-1 Seizan, Perverter of Truth main
-1 Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim main
+1 Karmic Justice main
-1 Grave Pact main
+1 Kataki, War's Wage main
+1 Martyred Rusalka main
+1 Attrition main
-1 Kataki, War's Wage main
-1 Living Death main
-1 Celestial Kirin main
-1 Spirit of the Hearth main
-1 Horobi, Death's Wail main
-1 Lifeline main
+1 Infernal Kirin main
+1 Hallowed Burial main
+1 Karlov of the Ghost Council main
-1 Survival of the Fittest main
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